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Trumps antics are devoid of Principle. morality and ethical considerations and are only useful as an EXAMPLE of what shouldn't be done by anyone in a Decent world. Trump wouldn't cop what HE dishes out to others and no-one else should have to cop it either. A Lawless world is safe for NONE. Nev

Some say the Bible is the ABSOLUTE Word of God. I consider that Impossible to take seriously considering it was compiled by Humans and then modified selectively. Nev

We don't have much in the way of records of most ancient civilisations. Time and circumstance have destroyed most of the records of the Past. Nomadpete kicked off this current discussion by asking Question - is Scripture teaching fact? What "fact" are we discussing? Is it the "fact" that the Scripture is the unadulterated word of a deity? Is it a record of the history of a specific group of people?

I'm curious about what events might follow. Iran supplies China with a lot of oil. So they have skin in the game. Between the Iran attacks, Venezuela, and maybe Cuba has USA given a green-light to China’s expected takeover of Taiwan? Or at least moved it up,since they have plenty of military toys. The west wouldn’t have a leg to stand on to object and couldn't stop it?

Sco Mo used his Happy Clappers God to gain old ladies Votes. How can you go wrong with a Man of Dog? HE ended up as Popular as a Pork Chop in a Synagogue. Nev

And that shows how a well intentioned movement can be developed into a ruthless system of mass control. Every religion is discriminatory. It has no place in any government. Spirituality is a personal thing and any attempt to corporatise it is bad for society, in my opinion.

I can neither agree nor disagree with that. Unfortunately we lack access to enough other records of ancient Hebrew history, to support this. We seem to have only one book of, as you suggest, embellished anecdotes that may be connected to distant events. But even if it was an accurate history book combined with a guide to life, it seems a poor way to teach good behaviour. The eight commandments basically say "be nice, don't be an arxhole"

Do Jews accept the New Testament? Islam accepts Christ as a prophet. The 3 religions are Abrahamic.. Nev

Some want us to go back to that Now. Your last line, Pete. I don't trust ANY religion. It's Mind altering Dogma that Limit's your ability to think straight and used by many to justify committing Outrageous crimes against Humanity.. Nev

If one does not profess a belief in the deity described in what we call "The Bible", one can reasonably describe the Bible a compendium of the Hebrew culture. A compendium is a comprehensive collection of something. One can also use the word compendium to describe a collection of written works. If one gathers all of the anecdotes, rules for religious practice and religious songs of the Hebrew faith one will have created a compendium of the Hebrew culture. The historical anecdotes as presented most likely are embellishments of actual events, with the embellishments aimed at indicating the influence of the deity on the outcome of the event. This is commoon. Consider the acceptance of Christianity by the Roman Emperor, Constantine. This is supposed to have resulted from his seeing a cross in the sky in association with his winning a battle. The vision was interpreted as being the helping hand of teh deity.

If the Euro's hadn't been so weak for the past 75 years, things may have turned out different. They enjoyed bragging about their free health care and enlightened point of views, but they let their militaries become nothing but little boys clubs. Look at the Ukraine for example. The Euro's didn't give a shit about the Ukraine until Putin actually sent the tanks in towards the capitol. They didn't do a single thing about Crimea. They didn't do a single thing about Ukraine's Donbas region. They all sat back and bitched about the USA for not stopping it. Every time the a Euro sovereignty/economy has been threatened................................they begged for American carriers. Look at Germany. It took a US president to stare down the Soviets and reunify their country. I'm not excusing the US for it's Iraq/Iran blunders, but the world would be a much more dangerous place without it. You said rogue? Iran has been at war with the USA for 47 years. They have been at war with various Arab neighbors for decades. They have been at war with Israel for decades. They financially support Hama, Hezbollah, and many other radical groups throughout the middle east. Iran supplies Russia with thousands of drones being used against the Ukraine. Let the liberals cry all they want about Iran. They are the ones that appeased these radicals to the tune of billions of dollars and made fools of themselves..

Hegseth is as extreme as anyone I've EVER heard of. Bat $#!t CRAZY. With THINKING like this, there is no Hope. Nev.

On this, I back away. Sure there are some stories designed to teach moral societal behaviour. But are you discounting the old testament? Our present society would say there is way too much immoral stuff in that. And remember, for a very long time you would be executed for suggesting that it was anything but the word of god.

Does that make the scriptures more like a "Goatherders guide to the Galaxy" ? I was trying to address the high probability the any document (dare I call it that?) or book is unlikely to resemble whatever was originally recorded by the authors. This applies to any reliance upon the book for historic 'facts'. Just because a few paragraphs align with other authors does not automatically make all the stories 'factual'. So many revisions (authorised by a god, of course). So many language translations. Unless a god actually signs off on all the inevetible changes, how can the "word" be trusted? Any god who can create a universe in less than a week might find the time to verify their follower's guide book. He has had a couple of billion years to address this issue.

No need to look for bonespurs?

Only Congress has the constitutional ability to declare War on an American enemy - but the President has full authority, as the U.S. military C-in-C , to attack any enemy of America, who is believed to be plotting any terror attack against America. Trump has long railed against any effort by Congress to control his decision-making, believing he alone has complete control of the major decision-making in America. What we should be all concerned about is the religious fundamentalists in America and Israel are the ones driving all this Middle East war activity. Not a lot different to the extreme religious fundamentalists in the Middle Eastern countries. Hegseth is on a par with an Ayatollah, believing he has the God-given power to decide who lives or dies in the region. And he's a raging drunk, along with his Christian Fundamentalist beliefs. Plus, many U.S. military leaders, or former military leaders, including Mark Kelly, believe he doesn't have the mental capacity for the job he's been given. https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2026/can-president-go-to-war-without-congress-iran-strikes/#:~:text=Article I%2C Section 8 of,when Franklin Roosevelt was president.

Yes but... As usual, the USA has not proposed any plan, or perthway to a regime change. As usual, the old regime has a sucession plan to continue power. As usual, USA has no plan for what to do next. Just go in all gunz blazing and expect the locals to miraculously unite their mobs and create a whole new system of government. Never worked before, unlikely to now. P.S. With the present state of amazing intel, and amazing precision strike capability, why did they destroy a school full of kids?

The Dept of Defence is now the Dept of WAR. Nev

I accede. I'm not an expert on the complexities of US law. But the message sent out by critics has suggested that permission is needed before action is taken. Obviously that is not the case. The problem with the culture of the USAis that it is militaristic. It seem to me that teh World's Policeman has finally gone rogue.

What are the dimensions of a foxhole?

The wife of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has died from injuries sustained in the bombing which killed her husband. Social media in America is calling for Barron Trump to be enlisted in the military and sent into battle. However, he has a medical out. He is 6ft 9in tall, and the height limit for military recruitment is 6ft 8in. He is too tall to fit in confined spaces like tanks and aircraft.

I don't doubt this for a minute., but Iran has one of the world's largest known reserves of oil.. and el Chumpo would love for the USA to have first dibs at knockdwon prices, if not control the reserves. Since he meeds to find a supply his sponsors can use (cf. Venezuela), then, I bet there will be large contracts to be had - by US firms.

Haaaa, bloody classic. Most of the still married guys say stuff like that , cracks me up. Been awhile l forget all that part of it but talking to ex just the other night actually and coincidently all that stuff came flooding back right there. Doesn't this wants that needs to this must do that eat this don;t that man, on and on and on, forgot what it was like. And that was just all her ideas coming out for herself , while we're talking but, got off the phone thinking jezuz thk God she's not running my show too- back to my bliss, ahhh. Actually ,,while she was at it though, she did tell me what to do too 🤣🤣 - just stay there, extend your place, who cares. She lives in the middle of Sydney now, she use to come over to the cabin here with me back in the day though, we'd tidy up and stuff.

Well, if the girl trap is successful, you'll be told what to do. Problem solved!

Your sarcasm aside, you are being overly simplistic. The war powers act states that the president is required to inform congress within 48 hours of military action, and he is limited to 60 days without a congressional vote. Congress must vote to declare/fund military actions that go past 60 days. Obama could have been impeached for his 2011 Libya bombing actions by continuing the bombing beyond the 60 day limit. Congress could have cared less.