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(Olivia Newton) JOHN KNEE RAY - Johnny Ray - Just walking in the rain.

I know I posted about James Moylen, but I didn't mean for the thread to be dragged off with all this car stuff.

HQ hermaphrodite.

15 years to plug the bores? What a joke.

At present, the dis United States of America are more likely to unite with Russia than reunite their local states.

It's Now the DIS-United States and never more so since the Civil War. . It's now controlled by a stand over Dictator. Nev

And when you forget to put the cap on, you lose half a tankfull as you roar out of the servo! Fortunately none of these treasures from the past, are still with us.

The HQ Holdens had the fuel filler right in the centre of the back bumper, under the hinged number plate! - so you could pull in anywhere and the hose would reach! I seem to recall some American cars had the fuel filler hidden behind a taillight that swung out.

I just checked. My landrover doesn't have an arrow to tell me which side the filler is on. But if I turn my head to the right I can see it right beside my shoulder. Next to the door handle. As long as the canvas doesn't get in the way.

Mine doesn't. There is no filler cap at all.

I believe all cars have the indicator on the fuel gauge to tell which side. It is handy with hire cars.

Multiple hundreds of artesian bores are still uncapped. But the Qld Govt has introduced the Great Artesian Basin and Other Regional Aquifers (GABORA) Water Plan 2017, which requires all artesian stock and domestic bores to have watertight delivery systems by 2032. I cannot believe the mindlessness of so many, so-called intelligent rural people, in leaving thousands of artesian bores uncapped, and wasting billions of litres of precious water, annually. Even more so, I cannot believe that someone hasn't harnessed the massive available heat from the artesian bore water, to produce energy.

Every crow I see is checking out the rubbish! - especially the wrappers around humans food! 😄 But I've yet to see one drop stuff in a bin - the converse is the case, they'll empty bins every chance they get!

I had to laugh in the Costco service station a few weeks back. Costco have signs saying something along the lines of, "pull in anywhere, the hoses will reach across your vehicle". I do this regularly. However, you do have to apply a bit of effort to pull the hose right out, to get it across your vehicle. There was a lady behind me who had parked with her filler on the far side from the bowser - and she'd called the attendant in a fit of annoyance, claiming "the hose won't reach, it's not long enough!" Naturally, she hadn't pulled the hose right out, only relying on the loose hose length available. The attendant pulled on the hose to extend it to her filler, and she was greatly embarrassed.

I've never seen an arrow pointing out which side the filler cap is on.

Which side of the pump do you poll up to. Nothing worse than trying to stretch the hose across the car and still get the nozzle in the tank.

I think the message is that the USofA cannot be trusted, no matter who has the *residency. Or which political mafia (party) is in charge. At present, DjT can wear the blame.

My Dad told me of a notice that used to be displayed at unrinals in public toilets. Please do not throw cigarettes butts into the urinal. It didn't take long before there was a scrawled addendum to the notice, It makes them soggy and hard to light.

What was wrong with knowing where the filler cap was located before getting in the car. I had no idea about the arrow/bowser indicating where it was. Never had a problem locating the filler cap yet.

Variation on a theme.

I don't know about the original arrow, but I was lead to believe that nowadays the location of the image of a fuel bowser on the instrument panel performs the same function.

I take your point on the off road learning.. and I also think, for example, spins and probably basic aeros or at least upset prevention and recovery training should be taught as part of the PPL syllabus. But syllabus content is not the question. I was using scooter as an example of a bike a 16 tear old can ride. A 16 year old with a CBT (learners permit) can also ride a 125CC bike, of which wheel size (except for width of cheaper ones) is comparable with bigger bikes. Mind you, it is more the behaviour of the riders than the size of the wheels they are on that is the issue. My stepfather happily rode a C90 to and from work in Melbourne and the only times there were problems were other drivers or himself.. and those darned tram tracks. I happily rode my 11bhp CG125 around London and even on the motorways - although it was embarressing being overtaken by laden tippers on uphil sections... Although I can see there could be situations where not having enough power coiuld be dangerous, in the c. 6 months daily riding in all conditions before going onto the unrestrcited licence training and taking the test on a Kawasaki ER5 and moving straight to the VFR750, I never encountered any such situation.

Small wheeled bikes and Scooters are NOT safe. Ride them (If you must) and find out for yourselves. NOT ONE response to my OFF road suggestion. You should know how to DROP a bike and manage slippery surfaces. Nev

Probably should start another thred... I don't intirinsically disagree as things are rarely black and white and we should try and cater for individuals where possible. And I agree that a blanket CC limit is futile - the pre-2011 unrestricted Aprilia RS125 could easily hit 170kph... But so can many of the approved Vicroads LAMS models. The BMW G650GS is onme approved bike... According to Google it also has a top speed of 170mph. The difference is that in a larger bike, the torque usually provides much better acceleration and smoolther ride, masking the feel of speed to inexperienced riders. Also, in the UK, it is nto a blanket 125cc limit. The bike cannot exceed 14.6bhp.. period. The other thing to bring into the equation is that the risk of an inexperienced rider having a crash, if insurance data is at all reliable is a lot higher than that of experienced riders. Even if the power/weight ratio is the same, the consequences on a heavier bike have the potential to be much higher than a lighter bike thanks to Newton's second (force = mass x acceleration) and 3rd law (every action has an equal and opposite reaction). Collisions will by definition be subject to greater force if the mass is greater. I would be surprised if too many learners would think bigger bike such as a G650GS, let alone a Pan European or Triumph Trophy is going to be light or zippy as a scooter. In the UK, you have to take the test on the class of bike your licence level permits you to ride. Before you are permitted to ride a class of bike on the road, you have to have experience and proved you can safely handle it. Admittedly, the classes are probably too narrow.. For the driving environment in the UK, which is very different to Australia, except probably for some inner city suburbs such as Port Melbourne or Brunswick, I think a 125CC/14.6bhp bike is generally too small even for a 16 year old (let alone the 18 year old minimum in Vic - at least it was 17 years and 9 months when I did it). I think, for the UK, a 250cc of the ilk of a Honda CB250 would be adequate. In Australia, where the closed ion congested environment is by far the minority of the driving environment, LAMS seems more appropriate. I liken it to flying. Very few start ab initio training in a complex fast single (I understand Cirrus has a program). Most start in a light and simple beast, albeit rarely nippy; get familiar with the basics and progress.