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All three have imperialist intent and stop at nothing to seek their aims. China does the long game extremely well.

Maybe wrong thread for this, but.... Russia has been creeping up and reenforcing positions near Polish and Finnish borders Neither China or Russia nor America can be trusted and have been the enemy of peace since the end of the last World War when they all began their land grabs.

I hope they have the chants. I love the chants, timed to the hammers hitting the rocks.

Here's another old and not very good photo. It's the FJ ute I learned to drive in. My dad bought it second-hand in 1961. It was that old light green Holden colour. It had some lead bog in it from a previous rollover repair. I was a late starter learning to drive and would have been nine heading toward ten. Reason was, I was a bit shorter than average as a kid and had to wait until the legs were long enough to reach the pedals. Once the legs grew enough, it was just a matter of packing enough pillows behind the back to be able to sit close enough to the wheel to reach the pedals. I had mates that were driving trucks by that age as they were that much bigger. I didn't get a burst on until grade 8 when I grew about a foot in one year. I remember that old ute toward the end of it's life had the tie rod ends held together with wire. It would occasionally come undone and the ute would head off the track into the paddock. We had a Dachshund that loved that old ute. She could perch her rear legs on the seat back, and with her long body, get the front legs right out on the window sill for a bit of wind surfing.

This is an old photo, but this 1924 Hupmobile is still in the family; grandfather bought it new.

To build a car from new Parts would cost more than 10 times what a new one costs. A six year old car not serviced properly could be not worth owning at any price. No good if it's been near salt . Once it has no warrantee you never know when A big bill will hit you and often with some brands Spares are not easy to find new. Once a car has become unreliable it's not worth keeping Parts also fatigue. like in aeroplanes. Plastic gets Brittle. Upholstery looks shabby. Shock absorbers stop working properly. Discs get too thin. CV Joints wear. Paint goes off in the sun. Wiring loom rubber ages and copper wire gets brittle. Discounted superceded cars can be a good deal.. Engine reconditioning is nearly extinct these days. A "cooked" Motor is junk. Get a good vehicle and service it meticulously. Make sure the thermostat is always working. Nev

And the recycled pollies PHON have at the trough are different in what way, exactly? Jerry, they've done something else before politics. They've had real jobs and careers. It's not hard to research. Pauline fried fish, Barnaby was a bean counter, David Farley started out as a jackeroo and ended up CEO of Australia's largest agricultural company, NSW leader Mike Newman is a former investment banker and NSW trade commissioner to Japan, Luke Herdegen who just won the WA byelection is a small busnessman who owns gyms, Tyron Whitten the WA senator is a former concretor and business owner, Rod Caddies the WA leader has worked in child protection, construction, mining and as an ADF reservist, and that's just some of them. Even Malcolm has had real jobs but I reckon he's too nutty to talk about.

I wonder if they'll have the warder on the horse with the pilot sunglasses and the shotgun.

I can relate to that, having never owned a new car. The newest I've bought were a couple that were around six to seven years old. Most have been in the ten to fifteen year old range. I never saw the point in going tens of thousands of dollars into debt to buy a new car when a good second hand one costing a few thousand does the same job.

And the recycled pollies PHON have at the trough are different in what way, exactly? Oh, you want people with proven skills at sticking their snouts into the trough doing it. I get it.

Just love Rosie's videos!

OMG, they allow wimmin to do anything these days! Anyway. Just you wait until you get your wind farm. Especially in summer. Every wind farn I visit has got a nice cool breeze comming off them big fans!

Trump summed up. https://www.facebook.com/reel/2197018104193542

Definitely not. Just the most visible.

Not really related to the pros and cons of windfarms, but I figured this was the best place to show this video without starting a new thread. It deals with the way the blades for these generators are made and how they are repaired. Very interesting is the fact that the person presenting the video is an Australian - and a woman as well.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1073959615607319

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1730843141534127

You've got to be kidding! Why waste a good rant by reading provided refrences beforehand?

The motors definitely do. Current vehicle (courier ute) has 380,000km, last 2 sedans VR commodore had 333 000km when we sold it, VE commodore 360,000 and still being driven by my son although has had a motor because of the timing chain issue.

Trouble with the greens is they are all now pretty well career politicians who have done nothing else. SHY thinkis it ok to fly her husband to work on the public money, just more snouts in the trough. At least Pocock has done something different previously. The trouble is he is going to have to do backroom deals to get anything done. Its just a big snowball and yes, our 2 party system is a con. Agreed though, it is probably the best around at the moment.

I am agonising over buying our 'last car'. Not counting possible mobility scooters. Almost every car I've owned has been an old car when I bought it. Disappointed that my previous post didn't even arc up Nev. But it was only half in jest. We are already making cars nowadays that last way way longer than the 'old'' ones. And we have already shown that any well built car can last 100 years (with proper maintenance). And we are not likely to make many further engineering improvements in crash safety, teaction, or suspension. So why not make cars last a lifetime?

You mentioned nutters before. Is that the full list?

Sorry to be dissecting your post, but I am trying to get down to a useful conclusion about why not the Greens?... Although I have heard the above sentiment from others, and sometimes said similar myself, most really can't list all these BAD policies for me. Well that's what we all agree that's what gets votes for ON + Clive. But not working for Greens? But also don't like the major party's politics, either. Well, we all see a lot of nutty politicians in ALL parties. Disagree there. Greens have been bumping along the bottom for ever. Not likely to peak. Totally true. But we are accustomed to major partys doing that fairly often, too. After I started typing, others have touched on similar. I am puzzling how we can break out of this BTBD cycle before we follow the USA path. (BTBD = Burn The B Down and start afresh)

This is scary. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-02/the-nerd-reich-silicon-valley-fascism-war-on-democracy-abc-2026/107091034 These are the people supporting Trump, PHON, AfD and other far right "disrupter" parties and politicians around the world. The people who vote for these parties may want to simply shake up the system, but the people funding these parties want to end democracy.