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SBS should be sued for their show "Go back to where you came from" ... they could have named it something else entirely. They inflamed the national debate, inciting and provoking racism for their own ends - stirring the pot, and knew they'd get away with it. Both the ABC and SBS need to be defunded until they come to their senses, then a stronger watchdog to keep them in check.

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It will be interesting to see what becomes of a high court challenge. The judge in this case said it functioned as a test case for the claims of both parties. Marty, you judge Hanson's intent on her past history and you have every reason to, but a court can't take any previous statements on other past matters into account; they must only judge on the matter at hand. If an appeal to the high court happens, they'll have to judge on whether her words I quoted in a previous post constitute racism. The words alone don't in my opinion. Pakistan is a geographic area and a soverign state, so on words alone she's telling someone to go back there. It's her intent in using those words that the courts decide on. On words alone it's no different than if you came up here and I told you to piss off back to Tasmania. You know yourself how many times Tasmanians have said they wish mainlanders would piss off back to the mainland. That's not racist, and it could be argued not necessarily Stateist, just a desire to be left alone. But on words alone, it's no different to what Hanson said.

You can get down in the weeds about whether the words by themselves are inherently racist. But everything needs context, and I'm inclined to agree with the judge. In this context I would argue they were racist.

Sorry to requote Marty but she didn't tweet that. This is the text in question: “Your attitude appalls and disgusts me. When you immigrated to Australia you took every advantage of this country. You took citizenship, bought multiple homes, and a job in a parliament. It’s clear you’re not happy, so pack your bags and piss off back to Pakistan - PH.” Probably where you've got that from is that Justice Angus Stewart found Hanson’s comment that Faruqi should “piss off back to Pakistan” was a “variant of the slogan ‘go back to from where you came from’” which he said was an a “racist trope” and a “strong form of racism”. So she didn't say it but the Judge had the opinion that it meant the same as another saying they considered racist.

No I'm not saying that Marty. Read my post more carefully. What I'm saying is that the words alone don't refer to race, only former nationality. Get over the Hanson thing for a minute and think about the words alone, no matter who utters them. She told the person to piss off back to the country she migrated from, no mention of the person's race or religion. Forget about Hanson and look at the example of a white Australian telling a white Kiwi to piss off back to NZ. Would those words alone constitute racism of one white person toward another? I'd consider a case like that to be nationalistic based and not race based. If Hanson had told a white South African to piss off back to South Africa, is that racist? Would she be having a go at the person's race or nationality? The point I'm making is, that the words she used are not racist but nationalistic. That's looking solely at the wording and not taking perceived intent into account. The court obviously made the decision that they thought she had racist intent in what she said. The words alone (regardless of who spoke them) don't convey that. That's what a high court challenge will have to sort out.

How many Asian people do you know personally, GON?

Money should be taken out of politics entirely. Yes there still should be free and fair elections, but I think the application of a few public service rules would do wonders for the political class. No ability to accept any gift, donation or service of any value, for a start. And integrity checks. The ability of interest groups to lobby politicians erodes democracy. Everyone knows gambling advertising should be banned completely. It's a no-brainer. So why isn't it happening?

You'd be surprised how many people, including Aboriginals, who don't want so many Asians here. An Aboriginal I spoke to in the early eighties said he wanted neither Asians nor black Africans in Australia. People are voting like this now, and O.N. is benefiting.

For 30 years Hanson has been spewing racial hatred. First it was "Australia is being swamped by Asians". Then she went on about Aboriginal people. Then South Africans, but only the darker skinned ones. This time around it's people from the middle east, especially Muslims with her burqa stunts. So when she tells someone who's not Anglo Saxon "piss off back to Pakistan", are you seriously going to tell me she's not being racist?

You don’t think PF was closer to old Isaac than you are? Strange arithmetic.

I think that you have identified the problem. The electors have been shown so many examples of corruption in its many forms that they see all politicians are corrupt. Not being corrupt themselves, the electors have no faith in whatever politicians say.

Given Issac NEwton died in 1727, I think your maths is very suspect.

Very grunge rat like. Subaru engined.

There already exists a National childrens day and an international childrens day. Whats the issue? Aboriginal children have the lowest health, educational and social outcomes in the country as a group. They obviously need extra attention and the day just expresses that need.

The TOPIC is ME conflict and the debates in the Parliament are recorded. Public Service is Not elected. The most Important things for a Functioning Democracy (a) A free and fair Election Process. Checks and rules applying to any Money donated or spent, A GOOD honest Press which is Not a fully incorporated arm of the Liberal Part and NOW PHON Otherwise why not Cut out the Middlemen/women) and let Gina and Merdey run the Country directly, Nats have been all about Fracking and mining Not Farms etc as they once were. Follow the Money trail That will find out who calls the shots. Nev

I knew there would be an "out". Section 8(1) of the RDA 8 Exceptions (1) This Part does not apply to, or in relation to the application of, special measures to which paragraph 4 of Article 1 of the Convention applies except measures in relation to which subsection 10(1) applies by virtue of subsection 10(3). Can anyone translate that gobble-de-gook?

Trike seen in Brisbane last week.

Section 8(1) of the RDA makes it lawful.

The Dark Side of the Moon is the eighth studio album by the English progressive rock band Pink Floyd, released on 1 March 1973 by Capitol Records in the United States, and on 16 March 1973 by Harvest Records in the United Kingdom. That's 53 years ago.

I was trying to make the point that there are children in Australia from many different cultures. Why can't they join together to selebrate childhood nationally. Actually such a day is descriminatory since it excludes any child who is not Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander.

In the foreseeable future, it's only the moon they have to worry about. It will be a long time before they have the technology to shoot rockets at the Emu.

Haven't we gown up enough to have learned that promises made by politicians are hot air at best? Perhaps the running of teh country should be tuned over to the Public Service and politicians can continue to have their debating societies in the houses of parliament. Even used car salespersons are trusted more than politicians.

Depends on the throws of a steam engine. Double acting at 90degres gives maximum starting ease for Minimum complexity. Steam tug motors were triple expansion double acting. I can't see how triple expansion starts easy though.. Nev

Purtting the intent aside, are those particular words racist? Just on the wording alone, I'd call them nationalistic as only the country was mentioned, not the person's race or religion. As an example, if an anglo saxon descent Australian person told a Pom of anglo saxon descent to piss off back to England, is that rascist even tough both parties are of the same race. Intent can differ, but the wording is the same in both cases. I always thought rascism was bias against someone because of their race, not nationality. If you are white and told two South Africans to piss off back to South Africa and one is black and one is white, is it racism in both cases, only in one case or in none?