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Yeah, I get that. How far to tne nearest bigger town, and what is that town like? Or better to ask, how far to the nearest decent larger town? There are a lot of people who crave being well away from any major conurbation but if a decent town is within an hour's drive (say 100ks depending on the area), they they are really happy. The trick I think is to present the property to highlight the drawcards of being in a natural setting but is comfortable, and secluded (rather than isolated); If it is within - or even just beyone an hour of a decent town and facilities, especially if the drive is realitvely easy, then higjight easy access to the town with its facilities, yet far enough to be out of the rat race. You're not selling a property - you're selling a lifestyle.. If it's much more than an hour out of town, market it as a retreat - again it's the lifestyle that is the drawcard usually.. But, I am not a real estate agent... but when I am looking at rural locations, I am looking for lifestyle.
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Well said Jerry. Firstly I'm breaking my golden rule here. I had a lengthy break from the forum and set a rule for coming back on a regular basis that I would avoid the politics section, so this is a relapse. I think it's a turbulent time in politics for a lot of the reasons mentioned by you in the above post. It's a good way to analyze the issue, otherwise it just turns into an us against them mudslinging match. Devotees of the major parties often like to think those on the fringe should come into their fold because it's the only way to provide stable government. Here's the catch - a lot of those people only have one small part in the power structure, and that's their vote every three (or four in some states) years. A lot of them use that vote to send a message to the majors, and let's face it, without a reality check, complacency will rule. While it's a sound two party system where we have this eternal your turn, my turn setup, performance of governments and major oppositions will always be pedestrian. A lot of the disgruntled people don't want to reward that. I don't think the shift to the right is a blip, and it certainly won't be halted by simply denigrating those people. At the moment here in Australia, Labor has a declining primary vote in the polls, but with the number of seats held, should be right for a while without having to go to a Labor/Green coalition. The immediate problem is for the conservatives with their primary votes bleeding to minor parties, mainly ON. There's a possibility if voter disillusionment with the major parties is not addressed, we'll see a shift to more European style government where it's rare for parties to form government without cobbling together a coalition of parties. Be prepared for the possibility that might be the new normal in Australia in the not too distant future. Liberal/National/One Nation coalition or a Labor/Green coalition with a few independants thrown in here and there.
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Gday Jerry. Mate, it's a lovely property and on a beautiful little side street and at night the air from the grasses and trees, landscape, literally smells sugary,kinda fruity, so nice. But, it's 50k to a decent town and this town's tiny, only has a pub and l reckon that'll even close to soon. No shops, nothin. Prob only about 300 people , there's just nothin here or anything else closer.
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First, I have no issue with Nev's style - yes, Internet etiquette says CAPS is SCREAMING, and I guess that is written etiquette, too. But in the absence of in person or at least voice to coice comms, where infelctions can be made, and in the absence of mid-caps to allow for emphasis (sometimes an exclamation mark won't do), I have come to accept that is Nev's way and I am comfortable with it. We all have our ways whe it comes to written word, so don't go changing at least on my account. @Marty_d's post has put far more eqloquently and completely the point I have been trying to get across.. This lurch to the right is a global thing, because globally, the symptoms and root causes have coincided. Add rabid religions to the mix of billionaires, and a synchophatic press mostly devoid of objectivity, and it is a recipe for disaster. The reality is these issues, which could have been solved by governments of different colours, but they continue. It is easy to throw stones at the pollies, but my guess is there are forces we never see behind the scenes that make it extremely difficult to survive politically, professionally, and dare I say personally (in terms of character assaniation and assasination) if the pollies upset the apple cart too much. The latter bit may seem a bit of a conspiracy theory, but I have seen first hand the extreme rage, anger and threats when someone very wealthy has stood to lose quite a bit of money. It is ugly, and while they have the money to fight, by god they do. To be clear, I haven't seen them take action against the person beyond the threats they have made.. but this person was in such a state, it wouldn't have been a great leap to do so. Also, once in government, the party of power wants to stay there, so there is a conflict of interest already building up with those who have the money (which equals power) to make life more difficult for them. Imagine a CEO sayin we will pull the business from your jurisdiction and move it somewhere else. Imagine all those jobs lost. People will still buy our stuff - you know that - so you better bend to our will or it is you who will carry the can. The issues that Marty raise, sadly transcend colours of both parties. The rabble rousers of whichever colour you want start to get attractive. The sad reality is that most people, even more and more into what was the middle classes are so busy keeping their and their families' heads above the water, they are too exhausted to look into the complex world of politics, have more and more been forgotten by those they vote for, and grab onto anything else that pretends to offer them a lifeline. The the press describe these people are those on the margins, no hopers, blaming the world for their problems. Well, just maybe, that is stereotyping them like stereotyping Muslims as all terrorsts... When you look into it, a lot of these people work hard, but due to the widening economic gap, struggle, and are left out.. maybe society is forgetting them, too? And now, they gravitate to parties that offer them something to blame, and a hollow salvation. The other parties have long ago fogotten them; here are parties that at least recognise them if nothing more. That is why I highlight things like Brereton. It is one thing to say well go live somewhere else, or we still have it good hear, but that does not justify the constant erosion of trust, integrity, and quality. Would we rather stop the rot before we sink to an autocratic dictatorship as the US has done, by which it is probably too late before blood is shed? Oh, wait, it has been shed already in Minneapolis, and no doubt by the Venezualans (but they were all bad, of course), and by the undocumented migrants cast to jurisdictoons with a clear disdain for human rights? At some stage a government is going to have to bite the bullet properly, or else we are headed in the same direction.
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Yeah Nev, do think about the old grass is greener. End of the day though, like came home from the main town here the other day and thought yeah it's nice right now getting up there, great getting out and running about. But by the time you run around up there to, on top of the trip there and back, it's about 130k. l'm getting a bit sick of it now so l think how will l feel after 5yrs of it , no thx. So even aside from the property situation itself there's still all that side of it to and l know l'd be sick to death of it in a few yrs soooo , can't see another way apart from a limo and chauffeur.
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Yeah, but he'd not be allowed to compete while suffering football in mouth disease
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Yes, it was Friday the 13th. The day started badly when I got to the Men's Shed and the computer wasn't talking to the monitor. The Asus logo came up when the monitor was turned on, so it was working OK. Lights on the USB accessories were on, so the computer was OK. But no home page etc. appeared on the screen. Checked the interface cable, but nothing seemed amiss there. Could be the display card in the computer.
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There's no NEED to EMPHASISE. Do you SHOUT in EVERY conversation you have? There was nothing to emphasise in your last post. You hit the shift key at least a dozen times in that post. Capitals should only be used at the start of a sentence or for someone's name. You can pick up a keyboard for under $15 at Officeworks or Target. And stop taking shots at moderators or you will end up suspended. (Willie posted the previous comment while I was typing.)
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Edit: [Poor comment from a moderator. Cut it out. You set a bad example. The subject needs to be delved into a bit deeper. Nev] Nev, as an example of the point I'm trying to make, the above quote has been edited to normal text. Yes, I know you do it for emphasis, but your posts don't need emphasis. They are short enough to be clearly understood without caps. The fact is they are less understandable with the cap emphasis you put in the posts, and can visually look like a rant. Have a good look at the two versions above and try to imagine them through the eyes of others; it's not hard to see which one looks more polite. You don't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
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Trump would WIN a "shooting your Mouth off" Contes,t hands down. Nev
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That's the way it's going to BE, because I can't do it the way you INSIST on. Are you a New Moderator? So many rules. Plenty SHOUT much more that I do. It's ONLY to Emphasise. Why can't YOU just accept that? This is B Unpleasant. Yes My Caps lock does stick. Keyboard is a POS but I can't afford a New One and I probably Need operations on Both Hands. I've already had one on each. Nev
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Nev, you're still shouting. Either that or your caplock is sticky. Caps are a poor way of emphasis and irritating to most readers. That's the last I have to say on that matter.
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Thanks Marty, that's a well reasoned, thoughtful and balanced reply. I don't want to put anyone's nose out of joint, but your post is the standard of debate this forum needs as a lot of the political posts have been bordering on childish at times. It would be nice to see forum members stick to the play the ball, not the man rule.
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Well said. She's just another CON Artist. HER show exists on the Amount paid for Every primary vote. SHE has NO candidates in the Lower house. only the Senate which Keating called "Unrepresentative SWILL" with some justifications as they get there dependent on what order they are Places on the List by the Party . Nev
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There's an idea for a new Olympic sport! School shootings with an assault rifle. The Americans would romp it in.
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There's a rise of far-right populist parties everywhere. Reform in UK. AfD in Germany. Fidesz in Hungary. National Rally in France. The MAGAfication of the GOP in the US. PHONey here in Australia. If you want reasons, how long have you got? Growing inequality. Billionaires profiteering while simultaneously disenfranchising workers. Overpopulation, destruction of the natural world while those same billionaires resist any limitations on resource extraction. Journalism hollowed out by concentration of media ownership to the same billionaires and their mates who own the fossil fuel and tech industries. Loss of traditional industies to automation, robotics and AI, and the necessary transition of energy systems. Difficult and existential questions which require actual thought, wisdom and cooperative planning, at a time when our attention span is the shortest it's ever been. Into this complicated reality, populist parties provide simplistic answers and attract followers who like simple answers. Climate change isn't real so let's drill, baby, drill. Everything will be ok if we send all the immigrants back to where they came from. It's all the fault of the Somalis/Muslims/Jews/Pakistanis/pick your group. Cut taxes while simultaneously increasing services. Sound familiar? If you really think that Pauline is a deep thinking, compassionate and forward-looking leader, then by all means vote for her. Personally I think she's an opportunistic, racist rabble-rouser who appeals to the worst bits of human nature, so her party will always be last on my ballot.
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I'm Doing it for Emphasis NOT to be rude. AND I did answer GON's Question. What are you picking on this for? Isn't what I say More Important? Nev
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Just to clarify, it's not a pleasant experience reading posts riddled with capitalised words. In print form, it looks agressive and overbearing. There's a lot of forums that would ban you for continually doing it.
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It might add to the quality of the debate. Try leaving the caplock alone as well, it's the online version of shouting at someone and is classed as rudeness in the internet world. If you must emphasise a word, italics, while not ideal is a lot more palatable than a shouty post full of caps.
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Nev, with all due respect, you didn't answer his question.
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Plenty of NAIVE dills around. She has No Policies bar Hating a "current" group and Pulling RACIST STUNTS and stirring People up,. Look at the SORT of People she has recruited to BE in "HER" Party. How will THEY all work together.? Nev
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