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Banks could assist here. Why don't they offer "solar loans" - where they fund the installation of enough panels and battery that you don't have any debit bills. The repayment amount is set to the average of your last 12 months power bills. So there's no financial impact to the user but then in 6 or 8 or 10 years, you're not paying for power.

Where the hell will the Greens direct their preferences, if not Labor?

You're able to get free electricity today because of solar; not coal. If electricity prices are going to double in real terms it is because governments mismanage the rollout - just like In the UK.

Geez you guys have short memories. SFM and Duttons hot Mike gaffe about our Pacific islanders losing thir countries was far worse.

Two weeks to go and just about everyone has written the Carroll government off. Most of the talk is not if they lose, but by how much. Now that they've pissed the Greens right off and lost Green preferences in a lot of seats, the hurdle just got bigger. But you never know until it's over and stranger things have happened. I'll never forget the Shorten election loss. He had opinion polls indicating that Labor was home and hosed to the point where Labor faithful at the election function room were cracking the champagne at close of polls. An hour later, those same people were a sad and sorry sight wandering around shellshocked. So anything can happen on the night. A surprise win for Victorian Labor would be a godsend for Federal Labor, but the reality is without a Labor win in Victoria, the best case scenario for the Feds is a Coalition minority with One Nation support. That gives them the hope of a chaotic, unworkable government making Labor look good for a return next time. It would also give the Feds more validity to their looming battle against One Nation and the Coalition in eighteen months time. On the flip side, the worse case scenario for Federal Labor is a Victorian Coalition majority that doesn't need One Nation. Especially if it goes on to be a stable, popular government. In that case, it would be a big negative for Labor's federal campaign. Certainly not your average state election; the whole country will be watching this one.

I didn't find the dick joke overly embarrassing, but Albo's response to it by giggling like a giddy schoolgirl certainly was. No surprise though, totally in character. Cringeworthy as usual.

I doubt you would give them any credit for where we are no matter what, but Plenty of those contracts were done Years ago. Don't Open cut Mines damage vast tracts of Countryside and Wreck water tables? Solar doesn't damage the Countryside. You can farm or graze under it. Wind pays farmers who allow it and it provides them with a stable income. Batteries when installed benefit everybody. Nev

Where you read these things Matters. Is it the TRUTH OR Did you read it in the Murdoch Press?? Nev

i just read today that electricity price is going to double by 2029. i thought it was supposed to get cheaper.

it might not be fake but would you be happy to wreck our economy and a lot of farmland when australia barely makes any pollution compared to the big countries. you are happy to send our coal overseas to be burnt . bowen and albo are an embarrassment and should not be representing us overseas.

and the $32000 of tax payer coffee supplied by bowen

So you are an expert on wind turbine placement now, You said before they site them in high wind which is wrong,constant wind is what is needed. Turbines in Aust are starting to sit on 150m towers, they would be higher than most industrial buildings. As far as city slickers go,we cant even get decent height buildings in SA without North adelaide or the city council kicking up a stink. It is already ugly being a city. So yes a lot of city slickers have yhe old not in my back yard syndrome!

back to insults again. i said it was just a thought.

WE should be there and we are. Because Trump says climate change is FAKE doesn't make it true. HE LIES. There's Unusual and extreme weather everywhere which is going to cost US ALL a fortune to deal with.

That's when the Little Irish Accountant ran the show. He also shut down the Airline and left people (and Pilots) stranded All over the world.. Boards who ran Qantas before that aren't Blameless either. Nev

There's roads already between buildings and not enough wind enhancement to be of any use. It's a complete Furphy. "City Slickers"?? It's SO Passe and inappropriate to today's world. Nev

yep. About time they started jailing CEO sif they want to stop it. Will never happen though, to many politicians looking after their post politics jobs.

get better advice saying they will lose less seats if they dont build them in city slickers view

They really are an ebarrassing couple of d*cks.

Last weekend I took Friday off, we deserted the kids (hey the eldest is 18 so there was theoretically an adult in the house) and the missus and I went to Swansea. I took the bike and she took the EV - strange, I know, but with Tassie you need to be prepared for any weather. As it was I was rained on every day of the weekend, but there was enough fine weather between the showers to make it worthwhile. We rode into Coles Bay on Saturday, had an excellent lunch and dropped in to Devil's Corner vineyard on the way back. On the way home the main tank ran dry 40km from Richmond. I wasn't too concerned because my wife was somewhere nearby, but as it was the reserve got me there. I was taking it very easy on the wet corners - but even so, at one point I touched the rear brake and felt the back end give a little. From then on I took it even easier. Very relaxing weekend!

OK. Albo and Bowen are at the COP31 environment conference in Turkeye. But why did they need to take 190+ public servants with them when families can't put food on the table? And get caught on a hot mic discussing their d*cks?

AI was going so well, until some prick got involved.

Cheeses Crust. That's so deep and meaningful.. Nev

I'm sure they get better advice than you seem to be offering before locating wind farms which need massive foundations.Nev

thats true but they give big business grants, like 20 mill to lynfox for electric trucks . there are a lot of factorys with solar now which i think is a great idea. the western suburbs of melbourne could run wind turbines in the mix. especially if they were set where the wind is funnelled between buildings. just a thought.