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Don't talk too soon, there is a lot of consequences yet to play out. Maybe even there might emerge the promised America Made Great Again....... But at the expense of making most of the American people worse off.

What political parties we once considered to be Leftist are really Centralist.

Trump's presidency isn't exactly the Doomsday that Doomsday Preppers were prepaing for.

I have only one problem with your analogy.... At this point in time we really don't have a left leaning side in politics.

GON - Saving the middle class from exactly what? And what defines the "middle class"? I'd have to opine a sizeable number of the deportees are "middle class".

No he’s not. His making his rich friends richer and the poor poorer and sicker, all while trashing the economy.

Aren't you guys Middle Class? Trump is saving the middle class in the US.

In some respects you're impressive, GON. Takes some real stubbornness to steadfastly ignore reality and double down on your viewpoint in the face of all evidence to the contrary.

Trump is making America healthy again.

If you took away your left side cerebral hemisphere, the conservative side, well, that's what we have now politically. Only a half a brain is running the country.

ICE, the new brownshirts.

I think they're both going to emerge from this election with less seats than they started with. I'm hoping for an increase in Green and sensible independents. I'd really like to see the bloody stadium dropped and that billion going to Health. Talking to our neighbours today, their daughter has epilepsy. They took her into hospital last night during her eighth seizure. Her father said it's horrible, but he prefers she's still fitting when they arrive because that way she gets taken straight in and bypasses the multi hour wait in the crowded waiting room.

Now that numerous whites have been attacked on Fraser Island, I suspect that the public sentiment about 'those fairly harmless' native dogs has changed. They clearly ARE capable of carrying off an infant. And around touristy places, they lose their fear of humans.

But Nev, I recall from many previous elections.... The Liberal party constantly warning us away from the Labor candidates because Labor is constantly divided by poiltical infighting! Oh, and they always create cause fiscal disasters and astronomical deficits.. By the way, why are they called the Liberal party? They don't seem to have very liberal (progressive) agendas. Quite the opposite.

THEY will Never combine. Never in a Million years. Lib and Labor are NOT the same. That's being oversimplistic, particularly NOW where the Libs are wondering How to stay in the game. The NP doesn't help there and is a big part of the Problem. Vic Libs are completely divided more than I can ever recall. Nev

They may as well.

Not about the Vic election, but this year's Tassie election probably doesn't get enough interest to warrant a dedicated thread. Just thinking about the narrowing gap between the Liberal Party and Lib - Lite (previously known as Labor)..... Maybe the only hope for the major parties to have a say in politics, is for them to form a LibLab coalition.

Continues to treat TRUMP like the idiot he is, Nev

You DON'T HAVE to buy it. It and the TerrorGraph are two of the worst Papers in the Country, Save trees at the same time as you save money. Gerry Harvey trading as "hardly normal "spends a lot on advertising which MUST add to the Price and HE doesn't pay any dividends to his shareholders either. Donates to the Libs and kept 11 mill of the gov't money during Covid when he lost nothing as he stayed OPEN. Nev

I stopped purchasing newspapers over 20 years ago, because there was little value in them, back then. It has only gotten worse, a race to the bottom for the publication containing the most puerile, slanted, and outright incorrect "news". If wasn't for "entertainment" news, such as whatever any particular "movie star" or "influencer" is doing today, the papers would be down to 3 pages.

It is exactly the same with the NSW Sunday Herald and Sunday Telegraph. If it wasn't for the Harvey Normal ads, the papers would go broke.

I wonder if the Indigenous people had experience gained, over the past 3500 or so years that dingoes have been in Australia, of dingoes carrying off infant children? Surely the Chamberlain incident could not have been the first.

I don't. There was one on the table at the Men's Shed.

Don't buy it... simples..

Todays Melbourne Herald Sun was 80 pages thick. In that, there were about 12 pages of news. The rest was full page, full colour advertisements. The price is $3.20. You shouldn't have to pay for a catalogue. Like paying for Foxtel and getting 10 - 12 commercials each ad break, often the same commercial twice in the one ad break. You only get about 40 minutes program in a 1 hour timeslot.