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Well I get my news from reliable sources and don't doomscroll right wing social media, is that what you mean? "now albo the liar is breaking his ellection promises and bringing far too many immigrants with no regard to infastructure." Wrong. Absolutely dead wrong. State parties may share the name but are absolutely different beasts. You made the statement that Labor is soft on crime, therefore you should provide proof of this. Bearing in mind the judiciary is not an arm of the government of the day, where are your statistics that show that ANY change of law that federal Labor has made is "softer on crime" than the previous LNP government? (Opinion from Sky News does not count as proof.) While very tempted, I will restrain from agreeing with you and just point out that your post does not contain truth. It's mainly a tirade against a state government based on sensationalist reporting of some horrible crimes, somehow conflated with the federal government which is what we're talking about here. No one is saying that Victoria doesn't have problems with crime, and if you want to split it up by ethnicity that's up to you - but if I can give you some local examples, a few years ago a Hobart man killed his wife, chopped her into pieces and flushed her down the toilet. His ethnicity wasn't mentioned, because he was white. Another white man killed 35 people down the road at Port Arthur. And a bloke I worked with was bashed into a coma by a youth gang of 15 year olds - all white. If I were to do what you're doing I would be jumping up and down saying that Tassie has a real crime problem with white offenders. Because if we ignore similar patterns overseas we are doomed to repeat them. Only a complete moron couldn't see the similarities between Trump and Hanson - they're both populists, rabble-rousers, seeking to amplify disaffected people's innermost fears and prejudices. They're both funded by billionaires who know that they will get a great return on their investment at the cost of everyone else in the country. They both have no trust in experts and want to control everything and make unilateral decisions without considering the consequences. And by the looks of PHONey's business and accounting practices they're both dodgy as hell in that regard.

To break this battle for a moment, Brendan - get your shift key fixed. No capitals is nearly as bad as Nev's too many capitals.

Yep. Another for the oldies.

In most EVs I know of it is in front of you. My heater and demister switches on my old Ford Focus are not directly in front of me. Here is a picture of the primary display for a BYD

You've hit my objection right on the head with that. The driver should have all relevant information within the forward field of vision. not in a position where that field needs to be turned to the side by a turn of the head.

Many a true word is spoken in jest.

Would you feel better about if they were wearing full PPE?

By labour, I guess you mean Labor. Here is a breakdown of the levels of crime per state. Here is how the states and territories generally break down by safety and crime rates: Here is how the states and territories generally break down by safety and crime rates: Northern Territory: Highest per-capita crime rate nationally. Cities like Alice Springs and Darwin often top national per-capita crime lists. [1, 2, 3] Queensland: Has the highest crime rate among the major eastern states, with surging rates of assault, break-ins, and youth-related property crime. [1, 2, 3] Victoria: Frequently ranks highly on a per-capita basis, with recent statistics indicating record highs in criminal incidents—particularly in the Melbourne CBD and specific regional centres. [1, 2] New South Wales: Despite the high total volume of reported crimes (driven by its large population), its per-capita crime rates are relatively low compared to the rest of the country. [1, 2] Australian Capital Territory: Consistently considered one of the safest jurisdictions in Australia with significantly lower crime rates. [1, 2, 3] If you are making a connection between Labor governments and crime, you have to account for the fact that NSW has a low per capita crime rate. Is this an achievement of the NSW Labor government? The ACT has been governed by Labor since 2001 and has significantly lower crime. I am not spruiking for Labor here, I am not a party political person. In one of your posts you link to an ABC News site, which is lists all the crime stories. These are Australia-wide, not just Victorian. If you keep doomscrolling, of course, you will become anxious. I live in Victoria, and of course, I would like crime to be as low as possible; however, you have to keep things in perspective.

this crime wave was started by labour and now they are trying to do something about it because there is an election coming up. i just hope the witch and her cohort are thrown to the curb in november. all onetracks dribble about how great labour are he never mentions the 15 billion they gave to organised crime. police, nurses and firefighters have been dragged through the ringer fighting for a pay rise then we find out allan and albo have been handing over billions to crims. imagine all the good they could have done with that money. i guess one eyed communist supporters will never see any opinion but their own.

New stats reveal highest number of criminal incidents in Victoria since records began Topic:Crime Thu 25 Sep 2025

Victoria's crime rate has soared to the highest levels on record, driven by a spike in thefts across the state. The latest figures from the Crime Statistics Agency (CSA) show continued growth in both criminal incidents and recorded offences in Victoria since the COVID-19 lockdowns. Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner, Regional Operations, Bob Hill, said the figures were unacceptable. "As a society, we simply cannot allow the level of crime we are seeing to become normalised and accepted," he said. "Every Victorian deserves to feel safe in their home, within the community and on the roads.

crime is the worst it has ever been and it started with daniel andrews. you have no clue at all. i see this shit every day working around melbourne. cars flying past on the freeway full of teenagers. burnt wrecks every where from the thefts the night before. albo or ellroy which is his real name and snake chalmer along with bowen are driving this place into the ground. stop rabbiting on about overseas governments for comparison. you are shit scared to even get out of your car in northam yet you know all about crime in melbourne. i work with asians, turks, sudanese, italians and others and we all get along great. i am not a rascist i just want this country fixed. take a hard look at yourself cut and paste cowboy.

Nice buy, Willie. The old Taiwanese pedestal drills are good value if you acquire them for the right money. Even better if they have a Morse taper 16mm chuck. You just have to watch breaking the table mountings/castings with too much pressure. Seen quite a few with busted table mountings, which immediately makes them worthless, as there's no hope of getting replacement parts. They certainly are heavy.

You talk a lot of shit, mate. Your right-wing parties are so useless they couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery if they bought their own glasses. As soon as Hanson gets any kind of power, she'll be asking Gina Hancock to help run the country. And Hancock is just a robber baron, shafting every Australian, while she claims we should all bow down and be grateful to her, for ripping all our minerals out of the ground so she can make more millions without lifting a finger. She gets multiple millions a year for just collecting royalties and pays no tax, because it all goes into the Hancock Family Trust. Her old man built a $20M mansion, pissing in everyones face with his blatant ripoff iron ore money, while ordinary people did it tough. Then when his Filipino floozy widow looked like taking over the iron ore income stream, Gina spent multiple tens of millions on lawyers to make the Filipino floozy get just a couple of million, and nothing else. Then Gina flattened the mansion, less than 20 years after it was built. Is this the kind of people you want running Australia? Australia is the land of lack of competition, monopolies, robber barons, and corporate lobbyists who would twist Hanson around their fingers, if Hanson ever got any kind of political power - so they could get more corporate rorts, and more extreme wealth. Now we have BHP refusing to pay electricians good money for doing a prick of a job in extreme dust and heat, and a Liberal or ON Govt would back BHP to the hilt, claiming unions were being greedy. They're the ones who know what greed looks like. Meantimes, corporate CEO's get salaries that look like Lotto wins every week, while they claim they can't pay workers any more money. Banducci, CEO of Woolworths, gets close on $10M in salary and perks, while he shafts Woolies customers and Woolworth employees. Joyce got $25M annually for shafting Qantas customers, and employees. At least Labor goes in to bat for the battlers, the pensioners, the veterans, and those who can't get a step up the rung of the wealth ladder. Labor tries to adjust the tax system so the housing bubble doesn't explode, and tries to help young people acquire an affordable home - and all the Landcruiser-driving, big boat boat-owning, multiple property owners and developers, start screeching they've been shafted, and Labor is a pack of arseholes. No, it's the greedy property owners who keep wanting million-dollar property gains every year, while they pay only a pittance in tax, thanks to all their wangled tax deductions - such as the Landcruisers and boats - who are shafting every Australian, and getting "unjust riches" from property investment. Crime has always been with us, you watch too much TV and social media crap, that blows crime out of all proportion. Were you complaining about gun crime in the 1990's when shootings were just as common as today, but only occasionally reported? When we had the worst massacre Australia has ever had, with 35 people shot down by one bloke, just for fun? What about the Hoddle St massacre, or the Fathers Day massacre in Milperra? Those people weren't recent immigrants. Car thefts were massive in the 1980's and 1990's, and immobilisers were introduced to try and stop it. So car thefts went down for a while, now the car thieves have electronic devices to beat immobilisers. We have more people in jail than ever, and yet you claim crims are getting away with crimes constantly. Not much has changed - just the rabid, rapid-fire media reporting that has increased, because the media of today want stories that attract clicks and eyeballs. You need to take a hard look at yourself and your one-eyed, right wing rants, or go to America and join the MAGA nutters who claim Trump has all the answers, too. And I forgot to add, Hanson thinks Trump has all the answers as well, she worships him as the answer to the worlds problems. So we'll get a Trump-style Govt, if Hanson gets any political power. Decisions on the fly, with no reference to anyone, and decisions reversed daily, so no-one knows what's going on. Hanson is a stunt-puller, and carries the same level of nastiness as Trump, abusing people, including allies, and causing disruption, left right and centre. Albo and Chalmers are doing their best with what they got handed, and a lot of what they got handed, came from Liberal Govt decisions.

so who has donated 27 million to albo over the last three years. who is he beholding too.

why do you keep going on about another country's leader. we are supposed to be talking about australia.

all good. i try not too look here too much, i get wound up too much. 😁. i am not all for one nation either ,i just think they can't be worse than the 2 parties we have now.

I bought this pedestal drill on marketplace today. It's a bit of a monster, two of us loaded it into the back of the ute, but it must weigh at least 100kg or more. The head is solid cast steel which contributes a lot to the weight, although it's built like a tank from top to bottom. One thing about it though, the on/off switch on the left hand side reminds me of the safety aspect of modern drills with front facing switches. I've got an old bench drill with that same side mount setup and it's not ideal.

Don't worry Brendan, it's not your chain I'm jerking. I was expecting a bite from someone else.

another thing too. because they are so soft on youth crime the gangs get hired for a few hundred bucks by organised criminals to do their dirty work . have a look at the age of the people that get caught doing all the fire bombings around the place. they get out on bail the next day.

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best you can come up with.

typical left response. no one has ever said stop immigration. one nation want it brought back to 130,000 per year to allow infrastructure and housing to catch up. you live under a rock in tassie by the sound of it. i never said a thing about immigration at the last election. i talk about the allan and albonese governments as one because they basically are. you think labour isn't soft on crime. go and do some research because you have no idea. do you think they are white australians doing all the home invasions in melbourne and the machete attacks. victoria has more cars stolen per day than every other state combined because of labours youth crime epidemic . daniel andrews started that when he relaxed bail laws against the police commissioners advice. there are teenagers here that have committed violent crime and been let out on bail 80 times or more. they laugh at the police. 2 boys in the western suburbs last year were hacked to death in the street by a gang of shitheads they didn't know, one of them was still alive when they cut his arm off. there are sudinese familys sending their kids to boarding school in africa because its safer than melbourne, what about the sudinese that beat a bloke ton death in footsgray a few months back , a random attack in broad daylight. what about the gang last week that hacked up a kid with machetes in one of the big shopping centers in front of everyone. what about the richmond drug injecting center. daniel andrews put it next to a primary school, kids walk past drug dealers working outside the facility and sometimes they walk around dead bodies. i could go on forever but you left turkeys will just say i am full of shit because its easier than facing the truth.

We need some levity back in this thread. Cartoon author is unknown, so I can't acknowledge them.

My MG 4 has a row of physical buttons to turn major things on & off. It also has a 10 inch infotainment screen to manage detailed stuff. I have never heard of any EVs having issues with touch screens. These have been around since the 1980s & with a large screen work really well. The screen demister has a single physical button. The air conditioning/heater/fan has another. When pressed the whole screen is all of the controls for this & the touch buttons are really large. It is easier to operate that any rotary or slider controls I've ever used in a multitude of cars before. There are also voice commands for everything though I don't use this by choice though the car will tell me things that are important like when the battery is getting low. Yes some car manufacturers have reverted back to some physical buttons mainly due to complaints from owners who have not embraced the technology or the poor design of the system. I have programmable physical buttons on the steering wheel that can be set for a bunch of different functions & they have 5 options (up/down/left side/right side and press). I have one set to radio/music, satnav, aircon for example & can run all the options from that one button. Some functions cannot be used when the car is moving as a safety feature, eg satnav unless using voice commands. Comments/complaints about use from owners has led to upgrades & these are just software changes all done free. There is a very large transition happening and some things will not find acceptance from some conservative people. All they have to do is try to accept the change and persevere and most will eventually grow to like it. I do like the drivers screen directly in front with speed/odomoeter battery, power ACC etc rather than the Tesla model of a large centre screen & nothing directly in front of the driver. The woman in my car has a cultured but not posh English accent which I find very easy to understand.