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Agreed Fugly neither beast nor fowl.

I saw this bit of sacrilege on marketplace. I know it's horses for courses, but I can't figure out who in their right mind would do this to a WLA. There's not too many worse sights on the planet than a standard Harley springer front end that's been chromed. And I won't even start on the chaincase, or the funny front wheel, or the frilly seat. There should be laws against it. If you want to build a chopper, build a chopper, but a chromed bobber is neither here nor there, just a waste of a good classic bike from where I look at it.

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Nothing but power outages today, they're back! Started 8:30 this morning, and the third and last one (I hope), finished just now. The first one was a notified outage, the other two weren't. Since I had no electricity, I took the opportunity to drive all the way to town to inquire at my bank about not being able to get a code for online banking. The guy I spoke to, probably a supervisor, had no idea there are areas out here without mobile coverage, I had to fill him in on what it's like out here. He busied himself working out what I could do. After a while, he came back and said "Ring this branch when you need a code, and a female (her name was provided) will give you one". Quite a step backwards if you ask me.

Of course we have "Some" good politicians .You find out if you Look hard who they are, but that's not fashionable. We don't live in a Perfect world, especially Lately so to expect an easy ride is not reasonable in such circumstances. There's a few complete drop Kicks Nev.

Everything else Marty said already applies to our current politicians. They have communications teams, speech writers, media experts, are heavily dependent on, and guided by, their unelected staff. In due course, once the oligarcs have dissolved democracy and implemented their corporate dictatorships, this debate will be forgotten.

You are going soft now. I never thought you'd have so much sympathy for them.

One day it will be government by AI, no pollies to complain about. Probably not in my lifetime, or at least I hope not.

Being a federal politician can't be easy. Imagine the protocols, rules, how policy is developed, getting information from the APS, what to declare, how to bargain with all the others without getting screwed over, your every mistake and misstep scrutinized by the press, working and networking all hours of the day and night. So if we don't want professional politicians, then we want "normal people" from all walks of life who can also be media experts and able to understand the implications and anticipate consequences of complex legislation. Which means that in most cases they will be heavily dependent on, and guided by, their staff. Who elected them (the staff?)

Yes, I thought of that as well. You probably wouldn't want to get rid of all of them? but the current lot from all parties seem to be the most out of touch I can remember. Or have I got a short memory!

I'm not sure that would be a good idea. It would leave us with government run by hobby politicians..... Or more likely by oligarcs, in their spare time!

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This discussion has becomve very depressing, except for one thing. No matter where on the political spectrum each of us lays, we all seem to be in agreement that we have little or no say in how our country is governed and the direction its elected leaders want to take it.

It would be good to get rid of career politicians in all partys.

Ukraine probably offers really cheap flights to Australian soldiers looking to take a working holiday.

I was wondering why Finnair were offering discount fates to Aus :-)

Fair assessment.. (except for the bean counter... but that is a personal dislike - but at least I admit it)

All three have imperialist intent and stop at nothing to seek their aims. China does the long game extremely well.

Maybe wrong thread for this, but.... Russia has been creeping up and reenforcing positions near Polish and Finnish borders Neither China or Russia nor America can be trusted and have been the enemy of peace since the end of the last World War when they all began their land grabs.

I hope they have the chants. I love the chants, timed to the hammers hitting the rocks.