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  2. I have always voted with consideration of where preferences go. I am very careful with them. Most people and I would say 80% are just sheep and follow the handouts. Never thinking about the power they can actually wield.
  3. The LAST thing they Care about is You, the ratepayer. To them You are a Money tree, ready to be picked. Nev
  4. That's a Gross Misrepresentation of the Effects of CO2 red. They are twofold, Greenhouse effect and acidic effect in water. The Increase is what is the Problem & Both are well Known accepted and Understood. Sea Temps are rising and that's causing great changes in weather patterns World wide. More extremes More cyclones going further from the equator than they used to., Higher sea temps involve More Latent heat of Evaporation of Water and that's a very Large amount of Energy. Nev
  5. ๐‡๐„ ๐€๐’๐Š๐„๐ƒ ๐“๐‡๐„ ๐ƒ๐„๐๐”๐“๐˜ ๐‹๐„๐€๐ƒ๐„๐‘ ๐Ž๐… ๐€๐”๐’๐“๐‘๐€๐‹๐ˆ๐€โ€™๐’ ๐‹๐€๐๐Ž๐‘ ๐๐€๐‘๐“๐˜ ๐–๐‡๐€๐“ ๐๐„๐‘๐‚๐„๐๐“๐€๐†๐„ ๐Ž๐… ๐“๐‡๐„ ๐€๐“๐Œ๐Ž๐’๐๐‡๐„๐‘๐„ ๐ˆ๐’ ๐‚๐Ž๐Ÿ. ๐’๐‡๐„ ๐ƒ๐ˆ๐ƒ๐โ€™๐“ ๐Š๐๐Ž๐–. Former Australian broadcaster Allen Jones asked Deputy Labor Leader Tanya Plibersek the simplest possible question about the policy her party wants to restructure the entire economy around. โ€œ๐˜ž๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ตโ€™๐˜ด ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ถ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ค๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ? ๐˜๐˜ด ๐˜ช๐˜ต ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜น๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ?โ€ โ€œ๐˜ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ดโ€, Plibersek replied. โ€œ๐˜ž๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜จ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜Œ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ต๐˜ฉโ€™๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ณ ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜น๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ?โ€ โ€œ๐˜ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏโ€™๐˜ต ๐˜ฌ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ธโ€. Jonesโ€™ response: โ€œ๐˜ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏโ€™๐˜ต ๐˜ฌ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ธ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜จ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ฑ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜น๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ, ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜บ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ด ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ, ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ฅ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด ๐˜ข ๐˜ฑ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฎ, ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ญ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ฉ ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏโ€™๐˜ต ๐˜ฌ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ธ?โ€ The answer is ๐ŸŽ.๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ’%. Not 4%. Not 0.4%. ๐…๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ก๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ซ๐ž๐๐ญ๐ก๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐จ๐ง๐ž ๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐œ๐ž๐ง๐ญ. Of that 0.04%, human activity accounts for roughly ๐Ÿ‘%. And of that 3%, Australia contributes about ๐Ÿ.๐Ÿ‘%. Jones put it in terms anyone could understand: โ€œ๐˜๐˜ตโ€™๐˜ด ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜บ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆโ€™๐˜ด ๐˜ข ๐˜จ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ด๐˜ถ๐˜จ๐˜ข๐˜ณ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ ๐˜‰๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ. ๐˜Š๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ถ๐˜ฑ. ๐˜๐˜ตโ€™๐˜ด ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ณ๐˜ต๐˜บโ€. And for that granule of sugar, Australia and every Western nation pursuing net zero is โ€œ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ข๐˜ญ-๐˜ง๐˜ช๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ, ๐˜ฅ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ท๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜จ๐˜บ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ฉ ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ, ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ข๐˜ง๐˜ง๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ, ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฌ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ถ๐˜ด ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ค ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ด, ๐˜จ๐˜ช๐˜ท๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ถ๐˜ด ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ต ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜บ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ญ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆโ€™๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ฉ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜จ๐˜บ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ด, ๐˜ฆ๐˜น๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ข๐˜ญ ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜Š๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ข ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ข ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜‘๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜บโ€. This is the core problem with climate policy globally. The people demanding trillions in economic restructuring ๐œ๐š๐ง๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐š๐ง๐ฌ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ ๐›๐š๐ฌ๐ข๐œ ๐ช๐ฎ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ about the science they claim to follow. They donโ€™t know the numbers. They donโ€™t know the proportions. They just know the conclusion โ€” and theyโ€™ll rearrange society to match it. ๐’๐ก๐žโ€™๐ฌ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฐ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ž๐ง๐ž๐ซ๐ ๐ฒ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฅ๐ข๐œ๐ฒ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐š ๐ ๐š๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐ก๐ž ๐œ๐š๐งโ€™๐ญ ๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ง ๐ช๐ฎ๐š๐ง๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ. ๐“๐ก๐š๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ฌ๐œ๐ข๐ž๐ง๐œ๐ž. ๐“๐ก๐š๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฅ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐จ๐ง.
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    Swimming Pool in French is La Piscine. Nev
  7. Yes, totally agree. For the last 30 or so years, I have refused how-to-vote cards. Prior to this, I would take a how-to vote card from every party in order to not to signal my voting intentions. These days, my wife and I look at how to vote information online prior to voting. We don't necessarily vote identically, but we do walk in with enough information. Often, we don't follow any particular party's advice, but we try to vote strategically
  8. I think they should be banned & all political advertising taken down on election day. I was in NZ for a wedding last month & there were differing opinions of Jacinda Adern. She won a landslide victory in her second term but had become a victim of the very left and resigned early. She handled the Christchurch massacre and Covid very well and became well known around the world. She was a great leader when NZ needed one. The current PM is not a leader at all & the NZ economy is not doing well. Of course it is all Jacindas fault.
  9. Shy Cancels are a good example of the failure of the Democratic Process. . Nev
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  11. The local council here has a bad habit of rezoning properties without telling the owner. It's happened twice to me and both times I've found out a couple of years later when doing a property search. It was originally a dual zoned block, rural A and rural B due to a boundary realignment. A few years later council changed it to rural residential without telling me, and the same deal a few years later when they changed it to one called limited development (landscape residential). It's basically a green zoning where you can clear up to 600 sq/metres for a residence but not allowed to touch the rest of it.
  12. Dogs are smart. My dad used to keep the car keys on a wall hook and if he walked into the kitchen and picked them up when he was wearing work clothes, the little dog would jump up and follow him outside to get a ride up the paddock with him. If he was wearing good clothes, the dog knew he was going to town (no ride for the dog) and wouldn't stir.
  13. You've kept those slides in good condition by the look of it. I had heaps of old slides and didn't store them right in the humid climate and they're nearly all stuffed now.
  14. Often thought that the "how to vote" cards should carry a message that to vote for you first preference, you don't have to follow this card or something similar- and big enough so you can read it.
  15. You are right. The pref system here is very flawed Everyone I spoke to in NZ and that being the people I know and a lot that I didnt know and was just talking to all said they were so glad to see the back of Jacinta Ardern. She now lives in Melbourne. I said we will send her back and they all said no thanks we couldnt wait to see the back end of her. Albo probably has her on speed dial This is why they got in because the majority of the population vote with the handout sheets at the polls. They dont know how the system works or have any idea how it works not to mention at more than 2,600,000 work for the government. Are you going to get rid of the government that hired you and pays your wages? There are over 5.3 million people on govt income support payments this does include 2.671 million on the old age pension. There is 65 to 75% of the population live in the cities the rest is rural or remote. Thats a pretty big voter base. Where did all of labors seats come from...not the rural areas thats for sure. I wonder why that is?..The majority on benefits are in the cities of course. Thats a pretty big chunck of the population who want to keep the handout coming.
  16. YOU cast a Vote Nobody gets to see till it's counted, That's What I am referring to. How do you think GM run their Board meeting No different I would think. Many will Have a secret vote IF requested. Minutes are retained of all Meetings. Nev
  17. It will free us from industry, we don't even make intermittent generators here.
  18. Dogs are creatures of habit and readily accept a routine they get used to. Nev
  19. No you dont ...Secret ballot is only held in the party room when electing a new leader...very very rarely is it done on a policy decision by any party except on something like abortion
  20. The idea that our present government is socialist is a little hard to fathom. I looked up the definition of socialism. Socialism is an economic and political system based on public or collective ownership of the means of production, rather than private ownership. It aims to reduce inequality by controlling resources and distributing goods based on societal needs rather than profit accumulation, often managed through state planning or worker councils. Key aspects of socialism include: Distinction from Capitalism: While capitalism is built on private ownership, free markets, and profit, socialism challenges these by proposing collective management to eliminate class disparities. Ownership: Major resources, such as factories and natural resources, are owned by the state or cooperatives. Economic Goal: The focus is on distributing wealth equally among workers, as opposed to capitalist systems which allow for private wealth accumulation. Role of the State: Socialism is often seen as a stage where the government or working class takes control of the economy and planning. Distinction from Capitalism: While capitalism is built on private ownership, free markets, and profit, socialism challenges these by proposing collective management to eliminate class disparities. Australian Communist Party +6 Socialism varies from democratic forms that work within market economies to more centralized, planned systems. While sometimes conflated with communism, it is often viewed in Marxist theory as a lower stage of development preceding communism. I can't really see how our government fulfils these criteria. Businesses are not being nationalised, and the rich are definitely getting even richer. Wikipedia +4
  21. What do you call a democracy then? Labour got in with an overwhelming majority and the largest part of the primary vote. Our preferential system is flawed in that your vote may end up going to some party you do not want so you put it down the list. You may not even want the second or subsequent on your list but that's the way the system works. Not only that but the voting paper for the senate is ridiculously long, plus handing out how to vote cards on election day is almost coercion. I have had a foot in both NZ & Australia since the 70s. My wife is born here & lived there for 25 years. I was born there & owned property here for 20 years before we moved when I took redundancy in 2005. NZ used to have first past the post like many other countries & the UK still does. When you have a majority without needing to call on other parties or independents you can get things done easily. The NZ system is far superior in my opinion & it was the result of a national referendum. Mixed member proportional is that 50% of MPs are elected by your primary vote & the other 50% based on the percentage of votes that party got nationally. You have 2 votes, 1 for your MP & one for the party of choice. Often people vote for an MP from a party they don't like but like the person they voted for so they have a bob each way. Political advertising and hoardings are banned on election day. Voting is simple & there is no upper house. Whatever government is in power will not suit everyone for whatever reason. In my opinion the worst governments we have had since i have live here were John Howards last, Tony Abbotts and Happy Clapper Morrisons. NZ,s electricity supply has been around 80-85% renewable for many years given the abundance of available hydro, geothermal & wind. Solar is now making large inroads & the plan is to have 100% renewable electricity by 2030. Nuclear does not produce emissions but the cost is eye watering, the time frame ridiculously long, the waste extremely dangerous, & no-one want a nuclear power plant in their locality.
  22. The Powers already invested in fossil (and Nuclear Hopes) don't want solar, wind and Batteries that will free us from the Centralised near total monopoly they currently enjoy and exploit to the full. WARS are Fought over Oil . The sooner it Becomes Less Necessary the Better. To Only Burn it for energy is sacrilege. Nev
  23. Kyle, my post simply pointed out that your statement, "They have literally NO wind turbines to be seen anywhere" is not quite right. Having said that, I understand that there are other ways of replacing spinning inertia, such as grid-forming batteries and synchronous condensers. These technologies get better every year. I watched a video this morning regarding someone called Karl Rabago, who has a long history in the power grid industry. He talks about the "internetization" of the power grid, which means instead of a dumb one-way grid, we have a smarter grid that works more akin to the internet. The internet seldom goes down over a large area. He talks about islanding, whereby smaller areas, say a suburb, have their rooftop solar and a community-level battery. Yes, they are still connected to the grid, but are able to be disconnected when it suits the grid. Technology is moving fast. It seems unlikely that the old grid would be the best system for all time. Just as the communication system has revolutionised, so will the grid.
  24. YOU have the right to cast a secret Ballot vote Here.. Plenty of other Places DON'T HAVE that, Where else would you rather Live? Communism and democracy are Mutually exclusive but communism is not practised here. You are really putting forth a lot of Bullshit on this. Have you recently become attracted to some form of Politics as I cant recall you being interested before. Trump BLAMES so called Lefties for everything but I Hope you are Not an admirer. Try telling an educated Audience here that WE do not live in a Democracy Why use words Like SPEWING? Parties develop Policies that they Pretty well stick to OR they are Gone. Nev
  25. Here's the Moon in 1969. I have a set of slides given to me by a photo lab for professional photographers in Sydney CBD. I've kept them all this time and only scanned them in Sep 2024. I can post more If you want to see them, there's 19 all up, different scenes.
  26. Nev there is a oxymoron when it comes to socialism and democracy. The 2 are mutually exclusive Currently we have a socialist government and I certainly wouldnt call it a democracy. All of these parties vote long party lines NOT in the interest of the individual politicians electrorates. They are all too frightened to vote how the majority of the districts they are in want to vote. This then makes the ruling party effectively a dictatorship spewing their own ideas to make the whole country comply We do not really live in a democracy.
  27. The ability to sell off Part of Mine was changed by the Victorian Gov't after I purchased it. Nev
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