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the wrong teller? Nev

Media being what it is, there is also a possibility that the parents may not have first heard anything from an official source. I did hear (unofficially) that the parents were likely present at the search. A sad outcome on all fronts. My heart goes out to all involved.

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when it rains it pours. Nev

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I agree as a parent it would be devastating to have your hopes raised but then dashed, but it's hard to be overly critical if the searchers were doing their best to keep the parents informed in real time. Also, we don't necessarily know exactly what they were told. It could have been anything from, `She's alive' or `We've found her, haven't been able to get to her yet but we think she may be alive'. Big difference, but the media would just focus on them being initially told she was alive and then criticise the mistake.

I totally agree with all the above re: search efforts, discovery and legalities. However, I cannot understand anyone in an official capacity making a public announcement without being very sure of what they are saying. That was not (in my opinion) acceptable. Whover contacted the parents with such incorrect, unverified information, has made a terribly thoughtless action.

You don't comb the hair over it, it's worn as shown in the second photo, over the hair. You take it off for sleeping, showering, swimming. Any way, I have a buzz cut, nothing to comb.

A diagram of how the whole thing works.

There's a De Haviland Dragon Rapide that went down in WWII still undiscovered out there. Just think of the Southern Cloud as another example of 'lost in the bush'.

Being able to get that fancy gadget and HEAR is the most important thing. Nev

It was a Marathon search effort for a lot of people in tough inaccessible country with comm difficulties. An unfortunate Mistake is easily possible. In that sort of terrain locating her is a triumph.. Nev

You'll have to avoid a barber for a few months while your hair grows long enough to comb over the big round bit.

While I agree with your sentiment, what I was disgusted with was the emphasis which was placed on getting a sensational headline. You can hear that emphasis in the repeating of the question. What none of these reporters considered when seeking information was that the Deputy Commissioner they were speaking to would have only scant information passsed on in a short briefing from the command centre. Also, since the death was a matter for a Coronial Inquest, he couldn't just blurt out unconfirmed information. He did he best to be open about what he could say, but the answers to many questions were sub judice, meaning that saying anything likely to be wrong would be contempt of the Court. You can hear that emphasis in the repeating of the question. For example, possible cause of death. The deceased lay in inaccessible country. I doubt that a doctor had attended to formally declare the person deceased. which is the first step in a Coronial Inquiry. A post mortem had no been carried out. Yet these reporters wanted to know the ins and outs of a duck's rs, such as time of death. Information about all these things has to be collected, documented and placed before a Coroner who will decide, based on the evidence produced, 1. The identity of the deceased. 2. Time of death (if it can be established). 3. Place of death (if a fixed place or general locality can be determined). 4. Cause of death (results of post mortem). 5. If any criminal act was involved in the death. No doubt the Press will howl for an examination of the conduct of the search. It will be looking for ammunition to fire at the responding agencies. Don't expect the Coronial Inquest to be completed for at least six months. That's a pretty usual time for one of these to go through the system.

For anyone not familiar with Cochlerar Implants, here are a couple of photos. The first shows the components of the system.The grey parts are what is seen on the outside. They clip over the ear similar to a hearing aid. They contain the microphone, sound processor, the battery, and the round part on the lead contains a magnet and a loop which transmits the processed sound signal. The shiny thing in the centre of the loop on the right is a magnet. This component is implanted under the skin of the scalp. The magnets in the two components hold them together when worn. The sound signals are transmitted to the coil in the implanted component. The lead on this component is threaded into the cochlear in the ear, the 22 electrodes on the end of it stimulating the nerves and sending the sound signals to the brain. The second photo shows how the external component appears when worn.

Just to play devil's advocate here, telling a family that their child is alive when they weren't is a pretty major stuff-up. It would have been devastating for the family to feel that overwhelming relief that she was alive, only to then be crushed. As a parent I can't imagine it.

Sadly, this is as much as a reflection of society as it is of the media. If society didn't watch it, the media wouldn't produce it. Of course, if that is all the media publishes, it leaves people with only a choice not to watch and do something else.. and as creatures of comfort or convenience, people will probably take the idle path.

Of course, no AI or other software can change the odds of winning. But I would argue odds and probability are statistically two different things. The lotto is a totally random selection of 6 or so numbers from 45 (depending which lottery it is you are playing). That gives 1 in 14m-ish odds. We'll leave the system entries out. If you buy a ticket - you have exactly 1 in 14m-ish chances of winning. That is the odds regardless. Assuming you have randomly selected the numbers or say used a child's birthday week in, week out, you are likely to have the same probability as odds. But if you use some sort of historical simulation - especially something like a path-dependent Monte Carlo simulation which assumes randomness in the probability chain, you may detect certain patterns of numbers which come up more often than others. The more data sampling points you have, the more likely these patterns will repeat. However, below a certain threshold, the simulation is meaningless, and you would have to introduce variables into your simulation that you thought were material - that could be simply the combinations of numbers, slight imperfections in the balls that result in certain balls being in the scooping place more often relative to others, the order in which the balls are selected may also change that, the humidity even, etc etc. The point is, with enough historical data, you won't need to observe all those other minutiae factors as the patterns will tell their own story... And you may find, it can better predict the numbers likely to be drawn... and although your odds are exactly the same because it is a totally random draw, your probability of striking it lucky may increase. Of course, because the draw is totally random, it is not fool proof.. But it may say something like, for each number, if it is drawn first, this is the likely set of drawn numbers, and if the number drawn second is x, this is the likely set of following drawn numbers, etc.

The Odds are very much stacked against you. The HOPE you might win keeps you buying tickets. Without a ticket you won't ever win.. How much of the take that is Paid out%, gives you an indication of how fast you will lose your money. Gambling is a Big drain on any society. People you would think would never succumb to it, lose everything quite commonly. It's EVIL. Nev

More money and more delay. A new route is sorely needed, but the Minns government stopped the planned construction of a tunnel which would replace Victoria Pass. Gotta get those Metro trains built! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQq8QRbAOOI There is a diversion in place, but it is a narrow road and earlier this week was closed due to an collision. If I decide to go the Sydney, I am going to take a longer route coming into the north of the Metropolitan Area. According to Google Maps it would take me an extra hour to get to where I want to go on the southern side of Sydney

The Mt Victoria section is going to need some $$'s spent on it. Nev

I fully understand all that. He did well. Nev

Yes. Each carriage on one of those trains would carry one container which would be one less truck on the road. It would reduce the number of trucks on the inland road route between Melbourne and Brisbane, but not so much on tthe Sydney-Brisbane or Sydney-Melbourne road routes. They did say that they would establish a transfer station at Parkes to link with the rail to Sydney, but I don't know if that railroad could bear the weight being carried. There is still a great deal of local road heavy haulage going on along that inland route.

Yeah. Not a word of praise for the people who risked injury to carry out the seach, and the effort needed to retrieve the body. I thought the the Police officer controlled his emothions pretty well. He seemed to be empathetic to the fact that the woman had died, and how the parents felt. But he really showed self-control when these hacks kept pushing the mistaken message line. You have to remember also that he wasn't at the command centre, so he was dealing with relayed information and most likely had never been in the area himself. I'm not just sticking up for him because I remember working with him when he was a fresh-faced Constable. I lost track of him thirty-odd years ago.