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Yes, diesel plus AdBlue still produces more NO2 than comparable petrol engines. The point of what I posted was that the introduction of EVs has made a measurable difference in NO2 pollution. I thought this was interesting....isnt it?

No it's not. Diesels are the main source of NO2, that's why AdBlue was introduced.

Marty, I used to be able to pull wheelstands on that Suzuki 50 stepthrough before I put the sidecar on it. It didn't have it's own power to do it, so you had to stand up on the pegs and start bouncing the weight over the bars a couple of times and on the right bounce, heave back on the handlebars while you gave it a handful. Once up on the back wheel, it was all balance.

Very adaptable people. It's quite a sight in Indonesia and Malaysia to see the Muslim female pillion passengers riding sidesaddle on the back of a bike. Amazing sense of balance when you see them swaying back and forth as hubby weaves in and out of the traffic. They've been doing it since they were kids so I guess it comes natural after a while. I've seen a family of five on a bike; hubby riding with a toddler on the tank, wife behind holding a baby and a little kid hanging on behind her, but I've heard stories of bigger numbers on bikes over there.

You should see what they do with a scooter here in Vietnam. Not unusual to see 2 blokes on a tiny ancient single cylinder rustbucket, with the guy on the back holding on to a homemade trailer with a load of bricks or 6m lengths of steel. Lucky it's so flat. I don't think they'd make it up a hill.

I have some experience; I once built a sidecar using an upside down tin bathtub for the body and connected it to a Suzuki 50 stepthrough. It was slightly underpowered.

Who knows; the start of a rat bike maybe. I've got plenty of rusty steel and heaps of weird and wonderful bits and pieces. I just don't have the starting point of a motor.

That is not to say the vast majority of Muslims (or anyone in general) wants to perform the barbaric acts that have been performed in recent times, mainly my Islamic terrorists. But, to put in into perspective, we must remember, there have been a fair few perpatrators on barbaric killings by non Muslims as well. Every country, every race, every religion has them. An example is here: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/u-marshal-revisits-burial-most-154338909.html It seems more often we read of someone who has been stabbed many 10s if not hundreds of times, burned to death, tortured, etc.. and nary a Muslim in sight. I am sure if I do some research, I will find some non-Islamioc terrorist or oppressive government (e.g. Myanmar?) committing systematic barbarism - sadly they have graduated from hijacking planes. But at the moment, and it may be the media, the perception is most of the terrorist groups are Islamic. .

We can only live in our own times and deal with the evil that exists today.

Tis guy knows a bit about Donald- Trump is such your stereotypical bully. China pushed back - Trump backs down. Canada pushed back - Trump backs down. Europe pushed back - Trump backs down. Minnesota pushes back - Trump backs down. Denmark pushed back - Trump backs down. New York pushed back - Trump backs down. He is the absolute poster boy for every single character defect that makes somebody so insecure and spineless that they need to create an illusion of toughness. But look harder and a little closer and you see Trump for the weak pathetic little insecure man he has been his whole sad loveless miserable life. Trump is a man with real "Daddy issues" who knew his own father had no respect for him. A father who detested the stupidity and weakness he saw in his son. As Trump's own niece said. Fred knew his son was a habitual liar! Fred knew his son was weak! Fred knew his son's character was pathetically flawed. And Fred knew! That Trump knew! That he knew, and what really hurt young Donald was that Fred didn't care that his son knew how much he despised Donalds weakness of character. It was said that Fred (who himself was a loveless cruel husk of a man) wanted Trump to actually do his "military service" to toughen him up and install some fiber and backbone in him. But Trump begged and pleaded with his mother to speak to Fred on his behalf to help him dodge the draft. Trump was scared to death of even the thought he may go near any sort of fight. A Dr who was a personal friend of Fred Trump and even lived in one of Fred's buildings, diagnosed "bone spurs" as a deferment for Donald to dodge the draft. It was said that Fred paid for that diagnosis and Trump has no medical record before or since of EVER being treated for "bone spurs." Trump is only tough when you allow him to be tough. When you pander to him and massage his ego and let him feel like he is intimidating you. That is why Trump lies about everything and anything. Trump literally cannot complete a sentence without lying, because Trump fears that truth and reality exposes him for what he is. So he has to make everything bigger and better and the greatest that anyone has ever seen! and the more he does this the more pathetic he actually looks to normal minded folks who are not buying into his non stop bullshit. Like all of history's really weak men Trump will run from anyone or anything that can stand its ground and has the power to hit back. That is why so many of his victims are women or old men battling cancer or they are actually already dead or they are countries that can only throw rocks back as he bombs them. That is why he wont stand up to Putin and craves recognition from other authoritarian leaders. Trump will only ever pick fights with people or things he feels he can dominate and push around. But the first time they make a stand and push back he whimpers off to find another new less threatening victim. Trump is that kid that used to call you names! But as soon as you took your jacket off and raised your fists. He would be telling you he was "only joking" as he is running down the road. Trump is a gobshite bully who writes big cheques with his mouth that his arse can't cash and the world is slowly waking up to the fact they need to give him a bloody nose every now and then when he goes off on one of his threat sprees and runs his mouth. Being a billionaire is the only thing that has saved Trump from being punched in the face every single day of his life and twice on a Sunday.... The only thing.

Maybe they are "the worst of them" at teh present time, but go back through history and there are any number of human groups that have done the same things to others in their own eras. Humans are a nasty bit of work.

Protestant , catholic, budhist,Sikh,Jehovahs, Brethren, dont go around cuitting heads of,raping ,killing babies,mutalating people(mostly Muslims) only the radical muslims do, say what you want but they are worst of them

Don't worry, I'm an electric vehicle supporter. the NOX problem is only in cities. In sparsely settled places it's not a problem. Lightning also causes it.. One of the reasons RAIN makes things grow better than water from the Mains or Creeks and rivers. Nev

AdBlue is only used in diesel vehicles. The main source of NO2 is petrol vehicles. Replacing petrol vehicles that produce NO2 with EVs that don't is beneficial to public health. Yes, CO2 is a bigger problem, but NO2 is also a significant health problem, especially in cities. The article does discuss this. "While the shift to electric vehicles is largely aimed at curbing climate change in the future, it is also expected to improve air quality and benefit public health in the near term." My point was that reducing CO2 is not the only benefit of EVs "Nitrogen dioxide (NO2) primarily harms the respiratory system, causing airway inflammation, coughing, wheezing, and increased asthma attacks, especially in children, the elderly, and those with existing heart/lung conditions. Both short-term and long-term exposure can worsen asthma, increase susceptibility to infections like bronchitis, and potentially contribute to developing asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), and other cardiovascular/neurological issues. NO2 also forms secondary pollutants like ozone and fine particulate matter, which add to overall air pollution risks."

ADBLUE reduces Nitrous Oxides. CO2 is the Bigger Problem. Nev

You get charged when there's sufficient evidence of you Behaviour Being Criminal and likely to win for the Crown in a Court of Law. You have "Your Day in Court" and if you get a lawyer that won't be cheap. You might get costs IF the case brought by the Crown Prosecutor falls apart.. The Ordinary Person cannot afford to go to Court. Nev

I guess it is lucky for you that you don't live in a country where you can be bailed up by thugs who demand you produce proof of citizenship.

Adoption of electric vehicles tied to real-world reductions in air pollution, study finds "Using satellite data, Keck School of Medicine of USC researchers reported the first statistically significant decrease in nitrogen dioxide linked to zero-emissions vehicles."

"Edwardian " is an early Motoring Class. Then It's Veteran, Vintage etc. Nev

It is clearly a book for the empowered woman. Of any era.

SWMBO wants to know, exactly what destination you plan to send your wife to, with this book??

I found it. Gutenberg Project has a free copy. Motoring has come a long way Even for males!

The world needs more Mark Carneys. Luckily he's taken over from Trudeau, who wouldn't have the intestinal fortitude to tell Trump to shove his trade and allies policies where the sun doesn't shine.

It's been a while since anything positive was posted in this thread - so to counter the negativity, here's some party photos! SWMBO and I went to a friends party (Christie, and she was 50) on Sat 17th. It was held at a local bowling club and we all had a good time - despite the fact I rarely go to parties now. Christie is a senior ER nurse, she's got a lovely nature. She laid on some great finger food, she had a DJ with some great 80's music, and there was dancing and good general fun. One of the most amusing parts of the evening was, Christie hired a portable photo booth for the evening and it came with a pile of props, and everyone had a ball with it! Christie is the girl in the blue, off-the-shoulder dress, and her daughter Molly (20) is in the white dress with the black images on it. Her younger brother Sam is in all black, and hubby Gary is wearing the check shirt. The images start at the bottom, where setup and testing the day before, produced some interesting "test" imagery, mostly involving Gary and Molly. See if you can spot OT and SWMBO, we're halfway down the images, posing with Christie, and I've got my best Elton John shades on. https://gallery.glowbooth.com.au/view/e85ec5e4-2f3e-4634-a126-076cff8346cd?