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Grok is the worst performing AI, not sure why you used that as an example.

Opposites side of the brain DO control other side MUSCLES, NOT the way a person THINKS, GON. Congratulations on About the silliest thing you've said so far. It's a real beauty. I believe in credit where it's due. Nev

Most of the best stuff is already DUG. Burning coal and gas easily compensates for the O2 in iron Oxide(s) and converting the Ore to IRON uses COAL (Carbon) in a Blast furnace. Not all ores are oxides. Nev

You mean if one is reasonably intelligent and a normal human being? Thanks.

Have a look at the `Let's talk about Artificial Intelligence' thread on here. There's been a fair bit of discussion about it, and it's in the news a lot too. I don't think anybody knows where AI is heading but there seems to be plenty of scope for both good and bad outcomes.

If Very ordinary ( lack of) Intelligence doesn't finish us off first. Nev

Yeah, dunno, some actual AI scientists are saying exactly that actually but anyway, not a nice thought that one. Just surprised l spose that the single biggest thing about to change the world and humanity and very fast from here, isn't even being talked about.

I think what Rnx is saying is that we're all doomed.

That's an intriguing assemblage of words.

Imagine how much oxygen is locked up in mineral ores. Just look at the tonnes of iron ore still undug.

Have you any idea of where it's going and how fast from here it's getting there ? Call and think of that line what you like l don't care but just sayin. But just think of Grok creating a new Grok 10 or even 100x it's power and then that one doing the same again with it's power and then again. Seen where the robots are atm , check out China stuff, and like Grok , it hasn't even scratched the surface yet. No l'm not into AI at all , ofc it will just be another shytshow created by mankind where they'll all be sitting here in 10 or 20 or 50yrs time trying to figure out how to stop like all our other eff ups. l am fascinated by it though , as scary as it is and f it doesn't scare you you have blinkers on - l know what it will do and where it's all headed a child can see that, l want nothing to do with it but eh, it is fascinating none the less . Although , the anti ageing will be pretty cool if you can survive another 20yrs you'll be here another 50 later but l suspect that won't even be 20yrs away, 10 probably. Do like that part 😁 Well , if we're even allowed to be here in 20 or 30 yrs time that is anyway as AI will probably be ruling that roost.

Well if one is a natural left leaning person who was born with predominately right side cerebral hemisphere motivation - then sure.

Not to mention nursing home staff. My 93yo mother is looked after by Nepalese, Thai, Indian, African,Sri Lankan and Malaysian Australian staff. Barely a white face among them. She knows all their names and asks after their kids, and you can see the gentleness and respect they show her. There are certainly the job opportunities in that industry if "traditional" Aussies want them, but they don't.

Bloody well said.

ALL FACTS!! Too rare here. Congratulations. Nev

This is the biggest BS statement ever, one that ignores basic chemistry, and which is typical of Trump/MAGA scientific ignorance. A lot of minerals are made up of compounds, not just elements. Once you combine elements, or compounds of elements into other compounds, you get entirely new compounds, which have virtually no properties recognisable from the original elements or compounds. Oxygen is a fundamental element that only comprises 21% of the Earth's air. 78% of our air is Nitrogen, another fundamental element. The other 1% is a range of minority gases. Hematite, the most common form of our iron exports is an Iron Oxide, and there are quite a number of Iron Oxide forms, all possessing different qualities and abilities. These Iron Oxides are largely stable until heated to high temperatures, or become involved in chemical reactions. The bottom line is, Hematite is approximately 65% iron content and the Oxygen content of Hematite would be extremely low on a weight-comparison basis, so your argument that we are exporting air simply doesn't hold up to rigorous chemical examination.

O.K. We stop immigration, who is going to do all the crap dirty jobs you expect to get done? We haven't got enough labour as it is. All the old tradies are retiring and dying off and no young "White Australians" want to take these jobs on - especially where those kids come from wealthy white families where oodles of money is freely available to them, without working for it. You send all the Asians, Indians and Islanders home, who's going to drive your taxis and delivery trucks? Who's going to do your office and house cleaning? Who's going to build your new house? We can't get enough truck drivers of any kind because wealthy white kids don't want to drive trucks for long hours and long distances, putting up with crap food and being away from family. We can't get enough tradies to repair anything, such as house repairs, and mechanical repairs - because rich White Australians only want managerial jobs, and only like to play with electronic stuff. I'm currently giving the fencing bloke across the road from my block in a little country town, a hand to do limestone block retaining walls, on a new caravan park the Shire is building. He can't get any kind of labour to help him, so he comes to the old bloke across the road, to help him out. It's gut-busting work, out in the open, in all kinds of weather - while the young rich kids in town tear up the local reserves on their expensive trail motorbikes - because they don't have to work for anything, the Bank of Mum and Dad give them any toys they want, and they don't need to work! SWMBO and I rebuilt our bathroom just over 2 years ago. The only tradies we could find to do it, were two Iranian blokes. They were good conscientous workers, careful with the tiling and accuracy in alignment, and their work was a credit to them. These blokes had fled from a murderous regime, same as lot of immigrants, and they still had family there. They didn't "hate Australia", they see Australia as a chance to live peacefully and make some money and progress in life. I'd be pretty sure they suffer from "divided loyalties" and probably don't understand what the Anzac tradition is all about - same as if I went to live in a foreign country, and couldn't understand what they celebrated. But I marched in an Anzac March yesterday, and saw about 25,000 people waving Aussie flags, cheering and clapping all the soldiers, sailors, airmen and airwomen, and emergency services people - and the number of "White Australians" I saw in the crowd was pretty low, probably less than a quarter. There were Asians galore, Indians galore, and all the colours of the rainbow in the crowd. And they all obviously loved Australia, and what we are as a nation - otherwise they wouldn't have been there. I'll also wager there was a huge number of "White Australians" who never bothered attending any Anzac celebration - because they don't give a rats rectum about the Anzacs or Australian traditions, they're only interested in themselves, and their rich hedonistic pursuits - such as flying. A lot of these people would have been whinging that nearly all the shops were shut, and they couldn't buy something they wanted. Albo and his mob are struggling to do the best they can with the cards they've been handed by all the previous Govts - and that includes a lot of Liberal/NP decision-making that only ever benefited rich people and giant global corporations. If previous Liberal and NP Govts had done the right thing as regards Govt decision-making for the countrys long term benefit, we wouldn't be facing the problems we have today - and the Liberal Party and National Party wouldn't have disappeared up their fundamental orifices, to the point where they have virtually ceased to exist as parties and as a useful Opposition - simply because they failed to look after the people who originally voted for them. One Nation is an erratic flash in the pan with a track record of achieving very little, except pulling stunts that are designed to be divisive and make people feel unwanted - because they aren't Anglo-Saxon, white skinned, blue-eyed, and jingoistic. I've got some news for the jingoistic types. Australia became a multi-cultural country many decades ago, and Anglo-Saxons and White Europeans only make up a very small percentage of the worlds population (around 9%, according to the figures I get handed) - and that percentage continues to decrease as this largely rich cohort continue to reduce their reproduction rate. In the future, the majority of your doctors, scientists, engineers, tradespeople, and many of your leaders will be from some country you consider has an inferior culture. You'd better get used to it. Voting for One Nation will do nothing to reverse this trend and the Fish and Chip Shop Lady has no answers to the "immigration problem" either - except creating a vastly more divided and hateful Australia.

Serbs and Croats are famous for that .They had a bloody war. The English football fans in Europe are NOT a class act either. Nev

Yeah and Murdoch's covered it all up to help them eh! NOT B Likely!. Your facts there are VERY suspect and you wouldn't be a bit biased.? Of Course not. Your mob needs to get it's ACT together and THEN it Might be Worth voting for. Right now it's at risk of obliteration. Nev

Yep, absolutely spot on. These fools in atm are destroying Australia and the silly Vic twat is destroying Vic. l don't think we even need immigration not to any degree anyway a country we rebalance itself and find it's new normal if it's just provider for in a way that it bloody can and recover but everything these fools do is destroying any of that and that's the problem. lmo immagration and many other things need to be completely stopped for at least 5yrs at min. Give our country a chance to not only catch up, but to find itself again and it';s people. And the crime, yeah, started a thread her told it was all just hunky doory but it isn't it's insane and any of the countries anywhere in the world with high immigration are all having the same problems, Melb is insane atm. But then there's housing and prices, destroying business, manufacturing, our identity, what culture we did have, birthrates,training and trades, cost of living on and on and on but these fools are destroying it all. lt's uneffgbelievable what's happening to our country and right under everyone's noses unopposed, mind blowing.

Its not the ordinary people that is the problem, it is the numbers. We dont have enough affordable housing now. My daughter says that the amount of immigration is not a problem. Says my partner who is a 20 plus year immigrant who agrees about the numbers is shutting the gate behind her. Next thing she is upset that she cant get a house. She also went to university so I would have thought she could do basic maths! I have a bit of a problem with multiculturism . In the 90s? there was a soccer gam in Melbourne? between a Serbian and Croation based team and they ended up having a riot afterwards because of issues that were happening overseas. If these people come they should leave this stuff at home.,

No one is saying all these small bits should be ignored. If everyone of these countrys halved their emissions that would be a good start. We shouldn't go hell for leather and destroy our economy in the process. We have added quite a bit of intermittent energy, it will get harder as we do more. The best thing we could do is help developing countrys get their low hanging fruit in order. The best thing Australia does for the global warming at the moment is export uranium for power generation. Exporting our resources in bunker oil burning ships so it can be processed overseas in countrys that don't have our strict environmental laws is plain stupid. makes me laugh, we export iron which is a mixture of iron and oxygen, so we are using these ships to ship air.

I didn't attend any services this year as I've got my vehicle half pulled apart so no transport, and possibly a good thing as it was pouring rain. I watched the televised dawn service held on the beach at Elephant Rock at Currumbin on the Gold Coast, and I think it was the first time the Currumbin service has been televised. With Gallipoli being a beach landing, the dawn services held on beaches seem to have a bit of extra effect. It was a good service to watch, with a bit of everything from letting homing pidgeons go to John Williamson finishing the service performing his song True Blue. Every Anzac Day I can't help thinking how sad it must have been for some families with multiple losses. You see it quite a bit on small town cenotaphs where there will be three or four of the same surname listed, especially on the WW1 section. Most are usually siblings and/or cousins. Our extended family has only ever lost two members, my great uncle killed in France in 1916, and my nephew in active service with the Navy in 2011. My other great uncle returned home safe from service with the Lighthorse in the Middle East and my father and maternal grandfather both returned home safe from the islands in WW2. My Dad's sister was also in the Army as a nurse in the AANS, but she served in Australia only.

It's amazing what you can find on the AWM site if you have a good scratch around. A couple of years ago I was doing some research on my Dad's service in WW2 and was looking at 2/9th. Battalion photos in the AWM collection and spotted him in one. He wasn't named, but it was definitely him. Unfortunately the photo title didn't give much information but I got the impression it was a PR photo showing the battalion command along with some randomly picked ordinary ranks, as I couldn't recognise any others from my Dad's section or platoon in the photo.

It's outrageously and irresponsibly offensive to suggest anyone here Hates Australia. What's left wing views? Letting the ordinary people have a fair go? Nev