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onetrack, the last quote is not a totally over the top response, but I wouldn't put it in the respectful and courteous discussion category. When it comes to inappropriate speech on this forum, I'll be the first to put my hand up and admit to it. I've never pretended I don't. But I don't do it to other members because I don't like or agree with the content of their posts. The only time I ark up on someone is as a response to someone making unfounded and ludicrous attacks on me personally. And then I have to slap myself and remember the old Chinese saying that if you argue with a fool, there's two fools arguing. I'm not having a go at anyone here for their personal viewpoints, just calling out the blatant double standards that seem to be the norm on this forum lately. I think everyone on both sides needs to take a chill pill.

He certainly hasn't received respectful and courteous replies to his posts, whether they are rants or not. If you did up an abuse balance sheet I don't think long term members score very well on the scale. What ever happened to sensible debate. If people don't think they are getting sensible debate from someone, why just post a reverse rant back. Fair enough if people want to go tit for tat like that, but don't pretend it's just one side doing it.

I don't have an opinion on what Brendan has said, but I agree fully with the rest of it. Name calling, playing the man instead of the topic and mudslinging are not the sole domain of new members. For anyone wanting to sugarcoat the behaviour of long term members, just read back through some of the threads.

No, I think Brendan has a major anger management problem, and he needs to address that, before he can hold a respectful and courteous discussion without ranting.

Yes, I remember them being cheap. Solid frames but often had awful Soviet era welds. Factories used to supply free vodka to the workers; maybe the bad welds happened when the vodka ran out. The new Ural Gear Up 2WD outfits start at $35,000 for the standard model.

I agree with much of what Brendan has said, The abuse of him is exceptional. Anyone reading back impartially through this thread would agree. I invite you all to do so and then think about it.

They were $600 when new. I newly bought one but bought a Yamaha RT1 for similar money.

Another new/old toy picked up today, a 1970 Ural M-63 frame. Frame is original from the steering head back, including the rear guard. It also has left hand sidecar mounts which is a bonus. I haven't identified the wheels and forks as yet. The light is an Everwing, probably an old Datsun driving light. The bloke I got it from had only just recently bought it for a Yamaha 500 single motor that was in it. He said the engine was a tight fit in the frame which probably explains why the longitudinal brace below the steering head has been cut out. It's the closest I've been to an old Cossack since 1972. Second photo is what an original looks like for anyone who doesn't know the model.

The raving you go on with Brendan, wouldn't change any thinking persons Mind. Also do we have 2 Brendans.? If so that IS confusing. Note. Saying you are Raving when you say some things is NOT the same as the sort of thing being objected to lately. No one can make you say what you have said but yourself. Ive Probably been the Most Picked upon person Here for quite a while, so I'm in a good Position to know what it's like. It's become worse than Pprune. We are Here to exchange Ideas, not have a Pissing contest. I come on Line wondering what Crap will I have to Face this time? How is THAT OK? Nev

And the shit throwing continues

a drop in the ocean compared to labour and liberal.

I guess you want to live in the right-wing dream world where there are only white people in Australia, where corporations can do what they like, where poor people are alway just regarded as poor, because they're lazy, and where juvenile criminals are sent to the electric chair for stealing a car. You live in a world of childish simplistic answers and solutions. this comment was extra low. i am sick of telling you dickheads i am not rascist in any way. don't know how much i have to say it.

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labour supporters refuse to believe anything presented to them. i guess that makes them as dishonest as the government or gullible. not sure which. i will leave the forum to you lot. anytime facthunter and onetrack are on the same forum as me it turns into a shitfight. its the worst forum i have ever come across anyway. wish i had never found it.

Until the last few days, this forum has been pretty respectful between people with different political views. Suddenly, it has deteriorated. I am happy to listen to any reasoned, respectful argument.

Yes I react

Read what YOU say. You don't put crap on others? Nev

Looks as though they are recoiling or maybe it's Springtime in the Rockies? Nev

Am I supposed to just put up with the crap you lot put on me

Why have we got 2 Brendans and FFS lay off Lefties. It's SO Trump and Australia is NOT AMERICA. This guy has crossed the Line with name calling. Nev

You have no idea what I have and don't have. I don't think xairs and old Jabirus put me in the rich man's club. I don't give a flying fuck what you think of me

One farmer on the ABC Radio on the weekend said he has been a CFA volunteer for 50 years and now the scummy Allan government have adjusted his fire levy from 8000 p/y to 35000 . So if you lefties think that is a good thing there is something wrong with you . He said he had a neighbour that is getting 100,000 levy. It's not only that. Allan has made it law that they can't stop the power companies going on their property because wind farms are more lucrative than farms. And they are acquiring land for power company use with the owner having no say in it.

Looking up . It's easy to find.

Why not name the One instead of it falling where it MAY on the Usual suspects. GON hasn't been backward in coming forward with some Rather OFF comments about individuals either. Nev