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Let it ride!

Thanks, Gents.. Unf, this house is relieveing my of my dough at the moment.. but I am off to Taunton this eve to watch Somerset play someone in the T20 cricket. Despite Taunton getting a vid by the Youtuber, Turd Towns, it has a nice enclave with a nice wine bar that serves Plantagenet chardonnay by the glass. So, will be nipping down there.

There’s a lot of slave labour involved working for yourself, especially when you have other people. good news to hear somebody does better than the 11 to 13 I usually get back on a power hit, which is same as your system7 I think. Enjoy the rest of your holiday.

Nothing happens without Dog knowing it. Spend it wisely. Remember the days you worked your butt off and got Ef all for it.. Nev

There Never was any iIlegitimate children. They are as real as the others. Christ said No stumbling blocks or you are for it. (Millstone and in the Pond.) Nev

As I've mentioned in passing in a couple of other threads, SWMBO and myself are on holidays in Broome for 12 days. 6 days down, 6 to go, and it's very nice up here, although the place is overrun with rich tourists! SWMBO is always encouraging me to buy a Lotto ticket here and there - but I often resist, because I don't believe the mid-week or Saturday Lotto is good value any more, since they changed the systems so you generally need 3 numbers and at least one supplementary to win anything - and it's usually only $8 or $10, anyway. The only reason I buy Lotto here is because the W.A. Govt owns LotteryWest and all profits are ploughed back into worthy community events, structures, grants - and the RFDS, too, of course. This is far better than lining the pockets of already wealthy people who own shares in a corporate structure such as Tatts. I've bought quite a few mid-week and Saturday Lottos in recent months and years, with very little success. An occasional win of $20 or $30 or $50, and they were few and far between. I like buying Powerpik 7's because you get all the Powerball numbers with that ticket selection, and this system vastly improves your chances of winning something. So, yesterday, I went into the LotteryWest agency near the Town Beach, and bought a Powerpik 7 ticket. I didn't check it until nearly bedtime, and then found I had FIVE winning numbers! Woo-hoo! I looked up the prizes and saw where 5 numbers won $195.25. I said to SWMBO, "Oooh, we've won close on $200 in the Powerball draw! She was chuffed, it's the most we've won on Lotto in about 30-plus years. So, we went down to the Lotto place this morning, placed the ticket in the checking machine, and it came back with THIS!!! I nearly fell over, I had no idea we'd won that much, and it was because I'd missed a number and because I'd forgotten they pay out on all the other smaller winning number combinations, too!!

Shout yourself a good Penfolds Shiraz. You have the dough and you can't take it with you.. Nev

Kids PRETEND to believe in Santa Claus. THAT WAY they keep getting presents. THEY aren't stupid. Nev

I can't even WATCH competitive quad bike racing. Too much LUCK required to stay alive and I reckon you are DEAD for a long time. Nev

Perhaps there is a selection process here. My experience with young people (other than my own and his peers) is teaching private music lessons for most of my working life. I taught kids of various ages for over 35 years, and whilst not every student excelled, I can't think of many that I would describe as "brainless" Just like any group in society, there is a range of personality types, intelligences, etc. Whilst some 16 year olds may not take the voting process seriously or not seek out the required information to make voting choices, this also applies to members of other groups. Although my mother is not so cognitively with it or well informed, I still support her right to vote. There is real-world data on this. Austria allowed voting from 16 in 2007. I doesn't seem to me that this has had a disastrous effect on the country. "In 2007, Austria became the first country to allow 16- and 17-year-olds to vote in national elections, with the expanded franchise first being consummated in the 2009 European Parliament election. A study of young voters' behavior on that occasion showed them to be as capable as older voters to articulate their beliefs and to make voting decisions appropriate for their preferences. Their knowledge of the political process was only insignificantly lower than in older cohorts, while trust in democracy and willingness to participate in the process were markedly higher.[14] Additionally, there was evidence found for the first time of a voting boost among young people age 16–25 in Austria.[15]" The earliest moves in Europe came during the 1990s, when the voting age for municipal elections in some States of Germany was lowered to 16. Lower Saxony was the first state to make such a reduction, in 1995, and four other states did likewise.[13]

As the old saying goes, Spacey - "It's all good fun, until someone gets hurt!"

You have to know how to drop a Bike and keep it in Front of you.. A very low centre of gravity is essential for something with more than 2 wheels to give it any real degree of safety when cornering hard.. Nev

I personally think it's utter brainless stupidity to let kids ride powerful machines when they're 10 yrs old. It shows the parents fail to understand childhood brain development. They lack experience, motor skills, fast reflexes, and mature decision-making processes in their brains. Kids live in a fantasy world until they're about 8, how else can we adults fool them with Santa Claus stories up to that age? I get angry when I see stupid Yanks getting their children to drive farm machinery at age 5 or 6, or letting them drive high-powered quad bikes at age 7. It's a recipe for a multitude of child deaths and injuries - and over 300 kids are killed on American farms every year, thanks to farming parents brainlessness. Would you let your 10 yr old drive a V8 powered car on the highways? Of course not, and authorities intelligently ban such stupidity. We stopped child labour over 100 years ago because of the massive death toll of youngsters.

Large families help raise them selves. There's instances where a 12 year old has taken on the burden when the Parents are not doing it.. Nev

A four wheel trike is a quad bike & just as dangerous!. Lots of farm hands were lost to those quads . And ny daughter is having a great time on them . I am certainly not going to watch. spacesailor

I think that it might be later than you say at about 23. Brain development stops. It STARTS at birth or perhaps a bit before. Knowledge is NOT intelligence. Kids at age 2 have life long personality traits evident. They can ride MX bikes well at 10 . Be world Gymnasts at 13. Be excellent chess players. Have High IQ's. people can be manipulated at any age. ASK Goebbels. Kids don't have their brains concerned with amassing fortunes at a young age Unless some Influence has been on them. As I said earlier they have this wonderful curiosity about many things. Not just what will advantage them. They are really very special people and the future of the world is in their Hands. IF it lasts that long and that won't be their Fault. Nev

Well, I don't have any children of my own, but I helped raise 3 nephews via living with the brother and SIL in the same house, for around 17 years. Plus, I employed a lot of young people, 18 to 25 yr olds, and I spent a considerable amount of time "kicking arses", and berating them for idiotic juvenile behaviour - quite often combined with alcohol and teenage bravado in a group, of course. But they'd do utterly stupid things at work, too - high levels of risk taking, against their training and instructions, poor decision-making, where you had to pull them up and point out how stupid or wasteful the last decision they took, was. It was standard policy in interstate trucking to not hire truck drivers under the age of 25. It was always regarded in the industry that anyone under 25 lacked adequate responsibility and maturity to be let loose with a big semi-trailer, into outback and remote areas. I still opine that a move to allow 16 yr olds to vote is either stupidity, or a clever plan to manipulate youthful, malleable voters. My Dad had a saying he repeated regularly - "One boy is a good boy, Two boys is half a boy, and Three boys, is no boys at all!" In other words, juveniles in a group become even more brainless, than they are on their own.

That trike is ugly and unsafe. If the front has two wheels trikes are much safer. The Honda trikes maimed and killed a generation, they are inherently unstable at speed our on rough uneven ground. You have to ride them like a dirt track racer for stability, a skill far exceeding most riders esp kids. It was smart policy banning them, like giving kids a loaded gun to play with. The Yella terra Goldwing is much safer as a motorbike. As a trike you are wide as a car but the front wheel cops every pothole the rears escape. The worst bits of a bike and car combined.

My daughter in Dubbo has had a great time riding 'quads ' . Her youngest son got second in His motorcycle race . So enjoying riding different types . Also still repairing Harley Davison bikes . & still works at the motorbike shop . spacesailor

Has long been a greens policy to lower the age to 16. You can get a gun,join the military, drive, work full time at 16/17. So why not vote? In some USA states you can be a 3 year war veteran but not allowed to legally have a beer. I think it's a great move. We have a ridiculously low 12-14 years age of Adult crime sanctions. In that basis they should get to vote at 12 or 14 years. We seem happy to load teens with adult responsibility but not the benefit of a say.

I was under the impression tricycle-based vehicles were reasonably stable. I used to own a couple of tricycle Honda 185cc off-roaders (ATV's), they were quite good, but if you did stupid things with them, of course they would tip over, and turf you off. I never ever had a problem riding them, and I rode them extensively. I didn't go over about 70kmh with them, although they would do over 80kmh. But of course, a few idiots did stupid things on them, ended up being thrown off and injured, and even killed - so the authorities banned them, in another fit of equal stupidity. Of course, cunning, ambulance-chasing lawyers did their bit to get them banned, too. All I can think of with the Honda is the lack of protection from heavy highway vehicles. Roadtrains - in fact, even just many single trailer semi's, create huge levels of wind deflection - and they throw up road debris, rocks and sand - and they often lose parts of the load, or bolts from trailers, or even gluts and tie-downs of various types. I regularly see ratchet straps on the highways, that have fallen off. One of them mixed up with a motorcycle-based rig wouldn't be fun. And finally of course, following a semi in rainy conditions on a motorcycle-based rig is nothing less than highly dangerous. You'd certainly need to pick your riding conditions, and be extra alert at all times.