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Australia is the Titanic now ... just check the election results as they come in. The dumb major parties will be watching their preference votes more closely than their primary votes.

That's why I think demerit points are a much more equitable penalty than monetary fines.

It would be a case of the bureaucracy rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

No because other useless and unnecessary bureaucracy would go the way of the Dodo.

It is interesting to note that since 1973, several attempts have been made by the Labor Party to introduce a Bill of Rights to parliament but the legislation has never been passed. On the other hand, the Conservative former Australian Prime Minister John Howard has argued against a bill of rights for Australia on the grounds it would transfer power from elected politicians to unelected judges and bureaucrats. The idea of power being removed from judges at least seems to be being echoed at present on a continent to the northeast of Australia. When you have a look at the numerous individual documents which bear the title of a bill of rights (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_human_rights_instruments ) you can see that the concept of a basic, simple list of rights has been swamped by advocates of individual issues. God handed Moses only ten commandments, of which only four relate to behaviour in a society. It is Man who has created a plethora of commandments from those ten.

This was my ride today. The TSS Earnslaw. Built in Dunedin in in 1912 and disassembled so it could be transported to lake Wakatipu by train.

Too costly, too unwieldy and too utopian to work, GON.

THEREFORE, you are in favor of making our bureaucracy BIGGER?

someone will always find a way to corrupt it. Right to bear arms was written in a far more simpler time, I'm fairly certain it wasn't intended to give mentally unstable people access to modern automatic weapons. I'm also certain the founding fathers of America didn't think a convicted criminal would ever get voted into office, so didn't include it in their documents. Its a sham when a convicted felon can't vote, but can be voted in.

Yeah it would be large, and nationwide, about a thousands members to start with, with different jobs for different members, all working together in harmony, each backing the other up, one for all, all for one.

Yes we need a bill-of-rights, and it should be a very long list of rights.

No, I need to travel in style.

The ATO don't DETERMINE the Tax Rates. Kerry Packer said "Paying TAX is Optional for the Wealthy".. The Billionaire Pays the same speeding fine as a pensioner . For one it's pocket money, for the other a disaster.. Nev

Couldn't you just drive to the Fish CO-OP? Nev

They ELECTED a Moron DICKtator who obeys NO LAWS. Yes WE should have a BILL of Rights and have nothing to do with anyone resembling or copying Trump.. ULTRA PATRIOTISM is the refuge of absolute Scoundrels. Nev

So... the USA has a bill of rights? Not sure it's worth doing then...

Something tells me this is made up. "Seamore" Naval Hospital?

That would be Clive.

My transport to lunch.

You forgot to add.... ZERO % tax for the obscenely wealthy !

Hey I like that. Can I use it?

I once went to a urologist - he was born to be a urologist..... His name was Dr Yap Y - A - P (True story. But he didn't get it when I giggled)

And "Australia is the only liberal democracy not to have either a constitutionally entrenched bill of rights or rights or a national human rights act."

To quote from Wiki:- "A bill of rights, sometimes called a declaration of rights or a charter of rights, is a list of the most important rights to the citizens of a country. The purpose is to protect those rights against infringement from public officials and private citizens.[1]"

Looking at the downhill slide of civil rights in USofA, I wonder, is it time for Australia to have a Bill of Rights?