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Quit it youse guys. There's lots of bawdy ditties out there but they are not suitable for the forum.

"roads were made for horse and cart, but now you want to ditch them for these newfangled automobiles... It'll never work..."

'Twas on the good ship Venus, By christ you should have seen us, The figurehead was a whore in bed Sucking on the captain's... I forget the rest. Good song though.

Now, to bring this thread back to topic, Middle East..... Is the Middle East suddenly switching off conventional power stations and turning to nuclear power for their cheap electricity?

The banks are the least swayed by emotional propaganda. They seldom priotise environment above profitability. And even they are reluctant to invest in new nuclear or coal burning power stations. The money has spoken. My concerns about the environment will always be over ruled by the big money end of town. They don't see a future in coal power or nuclear power generation. There's no point in us arguing about it!

Logic dictates that we should move with the times. A long time ago, burning coal was a great step forward. Times change and new less toxic methods of making energy are developed. No need to stay locked into the old era of the industrial revolution, powered by burning fossil fuels. Every system has its drawbacks, and its solutions. Let go of the old. Move on.

Logic goes out the window with you guys. There was no electric system before we had coal power. It was a nation building technology. The grid was built around it. Hydro and gas were just icing on the cake.

More IS being ordered. New plants around the world. USA alone has 96 reactors and is building more. France exports power. Etc.

i can't remember any crossing removals on bell st. i carted pile cages to most of them. even though i am anti labour i do agree the crossing removals are great. my trucks don't get held up any more. burke rd was the worst and that was the first crossing to go.

IF Nuclear is so good More of it would be being ordered. It NEEDS lots of Water and with the Climate changing that water cannot be guaranteed. Things that Need cooling are adding heat to the equation. The heat energy that solar uses comes here anyhow reliably,safely and free.. OF all Places on earth, Australia Has to be one of the best Places for it. Nev

The Private sector Makes a Profit and the TAXpayers carry the Risks. Nev

If you recall, there was a huge incentive to get coal fired power going. It was called state ownership.. Once the risk was taken out of it, the private sector were availed the profits.

That really is clutching at straws - or pearls... Nuclear power stations close down for refuelling, too... Was 30 days per shutdown when I was in the game. I know, because our software saved a whole 2 days per shutdown. Which was a big deal and saved a couple of million per shut down.

Yeah.. I did get carried away, and was putting off yet another tip run. I did have one prior to judgement day.. I am not going to try and influence the results. After this one, I think I will retire from heritage refurbs.. The latest on the reno, which just gets more depressing, is that SWMBO called me at work in a mild panic that the power had gone out. Got the sparky around and there was some shorting in the basement that was throwing the RCDs. More inspection yielded corroded switches from a long gone damp issue, and more rewiring required. ` Having said that, I do follow a youtiber who tours rural towns in different stages of decline or prosperity, and have seem some tempting properties: https://www.youtube.com/@DaveWithoutAMap Here's one of towns in SA: Now, as it is still early, I am going to go and fill the car, which seems to be dying a slow death, with junk to take to the tip.

The system knows that and is built to cope. It's NOT built to cope with a Massive failure like this situation Causes. There's none so blind as those who will NOT see.. This IS a Catastrophe that will cost a fortune in Lost Productivity.. There's also a safety risk. Nev

Energy industry is not a level playing field. Just look at the financial assistance we taxpayers presently give to the coal industry. It would be fair play if our governments (all brands) simply stopped subsidising coal. But failing that, alternatives need some subsidy to level the financial playing field. I asked A.I. and this is what it said about subsidies: "Yes, coal mining in Australia receives government subsidies, with federal and state assistance totaling $16.3 billion in 2025–26,......"

To Increase the Uptake I would suggest, as it's in everyone's interest.. Nev

If it makes sence, why the incentives?

once in how many years,solar shuts down evert night

Aahhhh, that were surely the toffs version!

'Twas on the good ship Venus, By Christ you should have seen us, The first mate's name was Carter By gad he was a farter! When the wind wouldn't blow And the ship wouldn't go They'd get Carter the farter to start her. However, the lyrics exist in numerous variations. The line I know, and which refers to my ealier post finishes the Carter verse as The first mate's name was Carter By gad he was a farter! From the hole in his ring He'd play God save the king And Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.

Don't cast your vote before the results come in. I think it will be a Test win for Australia.

OME. It depends where the harmonica goes. Nev

..... run by counts? Nev

Are burps and farts organ music?