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Nowadays I am forced to use the only tool that reduces that pain. It's called a debit card.

Purtting the intent aside, are those particular words racist? Just on the wording alone, I'd call them nationalistic as only the country was mentioned, not the person's race or religion. As an example, if an anglo saxon descent Australian person told a Pom of anglo saxon descent to piss off back to England, is that rascist even tough both parties are of the same race. Intent can differ, but the wording is the same in both cases. I always thought rascism was bias against someone because of their race, not nationality. If you are white and told two South Africans to piss off back to South Africa and one is black and one is white, is it racism in both cases, only in one case or in none?

People who worry that Covid Vaccine might change their genetic make-up, should welcome that possibility.

I know the feeling. Arthritis in the knees means normal knee propulsion to get up off the ground is long gone. I end up like a beetle on my back, then have to roll over on all fours and get up that way.

That's absolute rubbish. The ABC is far less biased than any other news service in Australia. It's widely recognised that Sky News or whatever they call themselves now are among the most biased. So surely Hanson refused entry to them too? The reason Hanson doesn't want the ABC around is because they ask difficult questions. Guess what? That's their job. They do it to all sides of politics. And as a politician, if you haven't got answers to difficult questions, then what are you doing there? As a reporter said this morning, it's dangerous for democracy when politicians exclude segments of the media from their announcements. Look how many criminal investigations leading to charges have been initiated by investigative journalism, especially by the ABC. Without proper media scrutiny, corruption flourishes.

I am humbled to be graced by the presence of so many Grande Masters! I bow to your superior grandiosity

OME, give Jerry his keyboard back.

Maybe not only an EV issue.....

Speak for yourself. The other senator is just as much an Australian as Hanson and has a right to her opinion. While her comment was a bit bolshie, that's because she's a Greens senator and probably nothing to do with her country of origin. And if you think about her words they are 100% correct, and also stand up for the original Australians. Pauline responded in your classical racist manner and deserves to lose. Maybe she should give up HER well paid position, her overseas holidays, clothes, plane and food all paid for by a billionaire buying influence, and piss off back to Ipswich.

Logic dictates that we should move with the times. A long time ago, burning coal was a great step forward. Times change and new less toxic methods of making energy are developed. No need to stay locked into the old era of the industrial revolution, powered by burning fossil fuels. Every system has its drawbacks, and its solutions. Let go of the old. Move on.

IF Nuclear is so good More of it would be being ordered. It NEEDS lots of Water and with the Climate changing that water cannot be guaranteed. Things that Need cooling are adding heat to the equation. The heat energy that solar uses comes here anyhow reliably,safely and free.. OF all Places on earth, Australia Has to be one of the best Places for it. Nev

We used to have empires, run by emporers. Then we had kingdoms, run by kings. Now we just have countries, .........

He can have the Largest most Gaudy Cript and Buildings and airports etc named after him. He's doing that Now. He wants to be remembered " More than any person in History". See HE has this Superiority Complex and Giant EGO problem. He WILL be remembered but not the way HE wishes. Nev

I helped a friend pull the engine out of his car yesterday. The problem for both of us was getting up again after we got down underneath to undo bolts.

Annoying, isn't it!

Yeah but then has to pay them $130k to keep it quiet. Guess they don't call it the "money shot" for nothing.

I don't think HE gets too Near HIS missus..Nev

He seems to come across a lot of them..

The walk from my house to the pub is 5 minutes. The walk back, however, is 30 minutes. The difference is staggering!

My favorite colour is purple. I like it better than red and blue combined.

Nothing wrong with that. Understood it perfectly. I am sure it was written by my brother

USA has the Best Politicians Money can BUY. They then turn into Dictators you can't get rid of. .Nev

If you are invited into someones home and start to mouth of about the traditional parts of their lifestyle and mouth of about a person who didn't actually have anything to do with the stuff that upsets them, I am sure that you are within your rights to tell them to leave. Pretty sure if we were in Pakistan and started to act like that it wouldn't go down to well. My definition of racism would be that the person was told to go back there just because of their heritage.

It will be interesting to see what becomes of a high court challenge. The judge in this case said it functioned as a test case for the claims of both parties. Marty, you judge Hanson's intent on her past history and you have every reason to, but a court can't take any previous statements on other past matters into account; they must only judge on the matter at hand. If an appeal to the high court happens, they'll have to judge on whether her words I quoted in a previous post constitute racism. The words alone don't in my opinion. Pakistan is a geographic area and a soverign state, so on words alone she's telling someone to go back there. It's her intent in using those words that the courts decide on. On words alone it's no different than if you came up here and I told you to piss off back to Tasmania. You know yourself how many times Tasmanians have said they wish mainlanders would piss off back to the mainland. That's not racist, and it could be argued not necessarily Stateist, just a desire to be left alone. But on words alone, it's no different to what Hanson said.

No I'm not saying that Marty. Read my post more carefully. What I'm saying is that the words alone don't refer to race, only former nationality. Get over the Hanson thing for a minute and think about the words alone, no matter who utters them. She told the person to piss off back to the country she migrated from, no mention of the person's race or religion. Forget about Hanson and look at the example of a white Australian telling a white Kiwi to piss off back to NZ. Would those words alone constitute racism of one white person toward another? I'd consider a case like that to be nationalistic based and not race based. If Hanson had told a white South African to piss off back to South Africa, is that racist? Would she be having a go at the person's race or nationality? The point I'm making is, that the words she used are not racist but nationalistic. That's looking solely at the wording and not taking perceived intent into account. The court obviously made the decision that they thought she had racist intent in what she said. The words alone (regardless of who spoke them) don't convey that. That's what a high court challenge will have to sort out.

Money should be taken out of politics entirely. Yes there still should be free and fair elections, but I think the application of a few public service rules would do wonders for the political class. No ability to accept any gift, donation or service of any value, for a start. And integrity checks. The ability of interest groups to lobby politicians erodes democracy. Everyone knows gambling advertising should be banned completely. It's a no-brainer. So why isn't it happening?

There already exists a National childrens day and an international childrens day. Whats the issue? Aboriginal children have the lowest health, educational and social outcomes in the country as a group. They obviously need extra attention and the day just expresses that need.

The TOPIC is ME conflict and the debates in the Parliament are recorded. Public Service is Not elected. The most Important things for a Functioning Democracy (a) A free and fair Election Process. Checks and rules applying to any Money donated or spent, A GOOD honest Press which is Not a fully incorporated arm of the Liberal Part and NOW PHON Otherwise why not Cut out the Middlemen/women) and let Gina and Merdey run the Country directly, Nats have been all about Fracking and mining Not Farms etc as they once were. Follow the Money trail That will find out who calls the shots. Nev

Become an *Islamic* republic perhaps? Gotta watch these muslims, they'll do anything to further their cause for Allah. Mehreen Faruqi didn't think things through before she opened her gob. If she got all the things she wanted, expressed in her "school kid" statement, she'd still be living on "stolen" land ... so, would she go live somewhere else and leave the Aboriginals in peace? ... not likely, she'd probably pretend to be their saviour and advise them of the virtues of Islam. God willing.

"Go back to where you came from?" Yeah, very much racism

You're missing the point. If Hanson was offended by those comments, she could have responded strongly in many ways without the racism. That she chose tell another Australian to "piss off back to Pakistan" just shows (if anyone needed more proof) that she's just a dog-whistling racist.

And no other indigenous population wherever on the planet has no cultural reference to the Moon? Australia is creating a culture of lunar tics.

Changing the conditions for negative gearing in a small economy like Australia's would not endanger the global economic system in the way unprovoked attacks on the economy of another country have done.

"roads were made for horse and cart, but now you want to ditch them for these newfangled automobiles... It'll never work..."

That really is clutching at straws - or pearls... Nuclear power stations close down for refuelling, too... Was 30 days per shutdown when I was in the game. I know, because our software saved a whole 2 days per shutdown. Which was a big deal and saved a couple of million per shut down.

'Twas on the good ship Venus, By Christ you should have seen us, The first mate's name was Carter By gad he was a farter! When the wind wouldn't blow And the ship wouldn't go They'd get Carter the farter to start her. However, the lyrics exist in numerous variations. The line I know, and which refers to my ealier post finishes the Carter verse as The first mate's name was Carter By gad he was a farter! From the hole in his ring He'd play God save the king And Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.

Whe worst thing about the whole demise of USA, is that it confirms my worst fears. My mum was wrong! Cheats DO prosper. Bigtime!

It has always been rare that a brand new venture has come fresh to the stock markets (which is really a share market, as stocks include all cash instruments - debts, futures, etc.. Another American misappropriation of the English language). When they do, they normally go the the "second" boards. The ASX no longer has one as these are less regulated boards and they are literally for investors who can throw whatever investment they have down the drain. Often dubbed penny stocks, you can make a lot of money or lose everything. The London Stock Exchanges operates AIM, but it is subject to tighter rules than most secondary boards, and hence it is more for companies seeking earlier cash than would float on a main board. I am not an equities analyst, but I would suggest that Tesla's stock price is reducing thanks to lower earnings forecasts thanks to robust competition in the EV market and probably the electricity storage market. Their first mover advantage is probably waning. The SpaceX loss may be temporary or permanent - who knows. As I understand (and I just skimmed one news article, so take it on that basis), shortly after the listing SpeceX issued a sizeable chunk of bonds, which is debt. Firstly, it changes the capital structure of the firm and puts the debt holders in front of the shareholders if the company goes belly up.. and of course introduces fixed costs into the business in interest payments. Secondly, as I recall, the planned bond issue was not in the prospectus, so it caught share investors off guard and as large bond holdings effectively dilute shareholder claims to the assets, it further reduced the price. The second point is interesting. I would not be surprised if some of the larger initial investors or early on after listing purchasers of the shares have consulted their legal advisers. Planning a bond issue takes some time as it has to go through all sorts of hoops legally, sounding investors, roadshows, and the like. It wold hardly be something that wasn't in the planning before the IPO. If they could prove on the balance of probability it was in the planning or discussed at board or risk committees pre IPO, then that would amount to a fraudulent omission of the IPO prospectus and could land a lot of people in hot water.. including the bookrunning banks should they have known but not disclosed. This may be a case of watch this space. In terms of the share price, it could rebound based on investor sentiment of longer term earnings.

That sounds Incredribble. Nev

What happened to those original hemp attempts? I don't remember any mention of it when we were at school And I don't know what invoked 'Underscore'.

Yeah, but.... Sure, it's Artificial. But not Intelligence. I have met people like that. They would never achieve Grande Mastere though.

A little update on this topic from some further research. I said that one reason for the colony was to provide a base from which to establish on Norfolk Island for access to those tall pines for masts and the flax for sail canvas. Wood and fabric were not the constraints on both the naval and mercantile fleets of Britain. It was the amount of rope needed to operate the sails. A Man-o-War could require 80 tons (yes old measure) of rope in its rigging. Britain was getting most of this from Russia, but in the early 1780s, Catherine the Great of Russia began limiting trade in hemp with Britain. At this time Russia was starting to expand its territory and Britain was an obvious competitor. When plans were being made to establish a presence in Australia, the growing of hemp for rope-making was high on the agenda. Sir Joseph Banks supported this plan and supplied hemp seed as part of the agricultural supplies sent with the Fleet. Hemp was most likely planted by settlers William and Archibald Bell in 1823. The hemp cultivation was part of Australia's early colonial economy, as Cannabis sativa seeds first arrived in Australia in 1788 on the First Fleet at the request of Sir Joseph Banks, with the British envisioning Australia as a commercial hemp-producing colony.

Why don't you actually examine how WE AUSTRALIA are going wille, compared to most other Countries The others are self destructing. The NATS finished off the Libs by blackmailing them and then Taylor made it worse by undermining Ley. There's hardly any Women Left in their show. They were going to Move on Bridget Archer for crossing the floor and now she's gone to the state in Tassie.. WE got Fuel when it looked impossible. Storage alone is not a real great Idea It imposes cost and risks. I think we should have considered going a bit back to Autogas which we have Plenty of and therefore eases Our balance of Payments situation and supply security. Converted diesel Generators can run on it for remote areas and standby. We are in rapidly changing unpredictable times. Nev

Maybe we should revise the common usage of the words 'race' & 'racism'. Last time I looked, folks from 'other countries' are all of the same race. Likewise all humans regardless of their skin pigment or language. So in the above discussion, wouldn't a Paki be of the same race as a Anglo Aussie? Aren't we all members of the Human Race? Racism? Bah!

Just as well I can lift heavy things, or use to be able to.😁

I found this book description on line. Is it AI or just garbled translation? I think AI would do better. The book itself is in English. This book is written as a practical field manual to effective. Each geolOgist has to develop his/her be used by geologists engaged in mineral explo­ own techniques and will ultimately be judged on ration. It is also hoped that it will serve as a text results, not the process by which these results and reference for students in Applied Geology were reached. In mineral exploration, the only courses of universities and colleges. The book 'right' way of doing anything is the way that aims to outline some of the practical skills that locates ore in the quickest and most cost-effective turn the graduate geologist into an explo­ manner. It is preferable, however, for an individ­ rationist:. It is intended as a practical 'how to' ual to develop his/her own method of operation book, rather than as a text on geological or ore after having tried, and become aware of, those deposit theory. procedures which experience has shown to work An explorationist is a professional who search­ well and which are generally accepted in indus­ try as good exploration practice. es for ore bodies in a scientific and structured way. Although an awkward and artificial term, The chapters of the book approximately fol­ this is the only available word to describe the low the steps which a typical exploration pro­ totality of the skills which are needed to locate gramme would go through. In Chapter 1, the and define economic mineralization.

Why would you want to? I personally don't believe in any raced or religion based discrimination, or superiority but the Afor mentioned group aren't travellng that well for a lot of reasons so consideration of WHY might be the real issue. Nev

It's mountain out of molehill stuff.. Australia has, for as long as I can remember had this requirement. For the automatic UK citizenship issue, there is virtually no chance of coming a cropper because of it. They have no idea if your grandparents are British, and if you have no idea you become a citizen as a result, and don't declare it on your ETA application, you will enter as an Aussie citizen.