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No such thing as an illegitimate child. They are Legit. The problem is related to the Parents situation.. It's the fault of the Church Wowsers and holier that thou, types. Nev

Many of the adopted children have gaps in their history as they grow older. Did they love me? Why was I given away? Was I not wanted? What happened to my birth parents? Were they married? Was I the result of a one-night stand? Are they still alive? Did I have any siblings or half-siblings? It's very hard for someone to discover that their parents were married and they had older and younger siblings. Why would parents give away a middle child? The reasons for giving up a child are many. The mother may only have been 15 or 16 and too young to care for a child. Casual relationships that broke up, with no support for the child. Strict parents not wanting the shame. Religious attitudes to unmarried mothers. Mixed races or religions (Catholic and Protestant in Ireland). Relationships with foreign servicemen reposted to their home country. Even for married couples, if the father is out of work or in prison. And the list goes on. Another consideration is genetic disorders passed from generation to generation. There was a couple who had to surrender their child because they couldn't afford to feed themselves, let alone a baby. They stayed married for a couple of years, then divorced. The father suffered a heart condition and then discovered it was a genetic disorder. The race was on to locate the son. The parents searched together, through the program, and located the son. He was tested and found he had the disorder. He was only months away from a heart attack, but was treated in time and saved. Mothers forced to give up their child `through parental pressure, social stigma or economic circumstances pine for their lost child for the rest of their lives, wanting to know if they had a good life, loving adoptive parents, and have made good as they grew up.

All true Peter. It's all very sad. Nev

Just like IRAN? I want Freedom FROM Religion. Keep it OUT of Politics. Nev

Well Marty, in my opinion it's nothing to do with parties or one side or the other. I look at it purely from the point of view of the position of prime minister and the certain amount of decorum and basic manners the holder of that office should have. What he did has nothing to do with what party he's from. My concern about what happened is that any prime minister of Australia would behave like that. I'd be pounding on him exactly the same if he was a Liberal prime minister or from any other party. Sure, a lot of them have done some crazy things over the years, like Gorton falling asleep pissed on a plane, waking up and spewing on the floor. And like that other time he was full as a boot at a function and made some very crude remarks about an African diplomat's wife when he was introduced to her. The point is, Albo, through his job position shamed the office of prime minister of Australia. When he (or anyone else in the position) does something like that, I couldn't give two hoots what party they're from. Just because other PM's have done bad stuff doesn't lessen what he's done. I can't see how whataboutism should apply here. No amount of yeah but's will lessen it

I really think that which ever mob forms the Government, the person that Party puts in the position of Leader should not have to carry the ball for evry MInister in the Government. Those Ministers were chosen to attned to the operations of a particular area of government. I think that they should be the ones fronting the media. The captain of a sporting team isn't the one who is expected to score all the points for the team. The Prime Minister's role should be more about the international diplomatic side of Federal politics.

Times are changing. I was listening to a researcher on the ABC radio and he was talking about the younger generations getting their political information via social media. My brain sieve can't quote the figure he gave regarding those getting info solely from social media, but I was surprised how high it was. That's why Albo and other pollies are doing these social media gigs, to chase the younger vote. We boomers and those a bit younger are used to getting ours from traditional media.

Interesting. Search term for Google: "what is anthony albanese's original name" Response:

It is slang these days fort keep believing the conspiracy theories... I didn't immediately discount your claim, but thought it was strange more hadn't been made of it by the right wing MSM in Australia, So I took a look and It took all of 7 seconds to work out that it was a lie and most of where it was being claimed was on social media. With all due respect, objectively, it looks like an example of latching onto a conspiracy theory to confirm one's bias, especially in today's age where it is fairly easy to fact check. So, I don't resile or apologise. And I don't consider it a personal insult. If you want to criticise anyone in public, get the facts, otherwise, expect to be called out for it. BTW, if you read my posts, especially about the federal elections, my opinion of Albo is that he is not the greatest leader; I was very critical of him on many things. Pork barrelling seems to be a new found pursuit as well (note, seems). On the whole, not that it matters much, but he has earned my respect as a reasonable PM for Australia and when you look at the alternatives proffered up by any other party, that team has not done a bad job. They could definitely do a lot better (IMHO - according to my values which no doubt are different to yours). On Farcebook, I have recently ventured beyond Marketplace to its wider ecosystem. The law of multipliers applied to that toxic swamp explains exactly why there is impending social doom globally.

Always pays to dig deep into Google AI references. I've seen a lot over time that just quote what some bloke said on Facebook or some other public forum.

I buckled both lh rims on my territory at longwarry a few weeks ago 28 other people blew tyres and damaged their front ends on the same pothole. It was raining and you could not see it. Western Victorian roads are dangerous .

I don't follow AFL, but my Dad was born in Carlton Vic, so if anyone asks me which AFL team I follow, I say, 'Carlton'. I couldn't name one player in the current lineup.

Speedhump is the correct term

My fault I know, but this is thread drift. I have started a new thread to continue the topic.

I have seen lots of stories like this, as I am kind of addicted to a program called Long Lost Family. It is an English program that has run for a number of years, but there is an American version, and there was an Australian version for one season. The program acts on behalf of people who were adopted at birth or an early age, or parents forced to give up their children, but have wanted to find out that they have a good life. In the UK in the 50's, 60's and 70's, having a child out of wedlock was a family disgrace, and many parents refused to have their illegitimate grandchild brought up in the family, putting the mother in a mother and baby home till the child was born, then having it adopted. Often these adopted babies grew up to be adults who looked nothing like their adoptive parents or siblings, and wondering where they came from. The program uses DNA databases and special intermediaries to trace their parents because the details of adopted children were usually changed and protected. It is very emotional when an adoptee is reunited with their birth mother or father, or when birth siblings who did not know about each other finally meet. Family is often located in other parts of the world. The most difficult ones are foundlings, who were dumped by their mother on doorsteps, phone boxes, even railway luggage racks. They have no record of where or when they were born, just a baby in a cardboard box or shopping bag. The program airs on Channel 2 and is available on ABC Iview.

Yes, it occured to me that he didn't think that comment through. Methinks they are letting too many religious zealots into their government.

Sounds a bit suicidal, a Republican wishing for hellfire on the wicked and perverse

Also, about 4 million votes were void. Lula 51.79% PT · Incumbent 64,256,232 votes Flávio Bolsonaro 48.21% PL 59,826,041 votes Null (invalid) - 4,153,801 votes

Well, this discussion has risen the heights of the bottom of the gutter.

Conservative Brazilian Senator Flavio Bolsonaro has followed his imprisoned father’s lead by refusing to concede defeat to leftist President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who won a historic fourth term in the presidential ‌election. US President Donald Trump suggested on Monday (local time), without providing evidence, that Brazil’s election was “rigged.” “It looked like another rigged election, frankly,” he said. Other world leaders quickly rallied behind Lula’s victory, with congratulations pouring in from the EU, Mexico, France, Canada, India and Russia.

For some reason, South Sydney is the preferred team here.

or somebody everyone try's to avoid,

This may well have been posted before.. But in case

Staff culled to be replaced by AI or offshore should be paid 12 months salary on termination. The banks are making record profits, as are many other employers going down this path. When I was retrenched from Westpac, it was computerisation in branches which resulted in the closure of the processing centre I managed. Jobs were near impossible to find as other banks were doing likewise at the same time. One branch manager from my district who was retrenched because his branch was closed (the CBAL/BNSW merger resulted in two branches in the one suburb), spent all his money at the RSL, drinking himself to death.

Just as a postscript, there is no perspective alongside other political leaders in Australia applying here. It was a standalone act done by him and him only and should be viewed as such in my opinion. So you can yeah but what about ... (insert whoever here) all you like, you'll be talking to a post in my case.

Give her time, she has the lips. The full MAGA transformation might take a while.

While it is fantastic that AI can conjure female versions of male celebrities, and no doubt male versions of female celebrities (I wonder if they will come with man-boobs), this is a storm in a teacup. Last weekend, I decided to put the lesser reputed "vibe coding" AI between the titans to the test - ChatGPT (Claude is reputedly far better). I asked it how do I go about establishing an online travel agent aka the likes of expedia et al. It went through everything - the current and future known regulatory issues, as a start up the options to take with least investment and recommendations, and with a simple prompt, built me a functioning web site. And when I say simple, the prompt was: "Build a private interactive website for my travel disruption-support business concept. Let me model a booking containing flights, hotels, car hire, and other suppliers; vary who contracts with the customer and how payment and commission flow; and compare when the arrangement is likely to remain separate bookings versus become a package in the UK and Australia. Include clear assumptions and regulatory caveats, and make the tool useful for exploring an OTA (Online Travel Agent) model that owns disruption support without promising supplier-controlled outcomes. Validate the key interactions, host it privately using Sites, and give me the working deployed URL. Do not publish it publicly without my approval." Well, that wasn't quite my prompt as it corrected my prompt to clearly articulate what I meant. The only think it left off was some cybersecurity requirements I specifically wanted so I added them in a later prompt. It built the whole website, release pipelines, testing using different agents. You could see the agents interacting with each other - the test agent failing something, the development agent fixing it or in a couple of cases correctly stating why it was designed that way. In less than two hours, I had a functional website with all the features I asked for ready to test. I will use AI to generate Selenium scripts to test the website. Selenium is an open source website testing tool used throughout the industry. I imagine it will take 1/2 hour to generate all the requisite tests. The vast majority of my time will be validating everything, but that will be 1/10th of the time if that of what would be a normal development cycle. BTW, Chat also included the integration to the wholesalers and affiliate agents - full account management - and a separate UI for "employees" if they are ever needed; not just the look and feel of the site. I need to tweak a couple of user interface elements as it has built it with too much artistic licence, but in theory could release the lot in a few weeks - with no developer or QA resource.

A question you would not ask if Labor were in the lead.

I must say that I don't find Bush Barbie's style of comedy comes anywhere near the standard our earlier comics (non-gender term used deliberately). From the videos I've seen of her, she uses her physical appearance to attract ateention, which it sure does. However, having grown up enjoying the witty use of language and irony, both in the English and Australian styles, I think she just doesn't come up to standard.

Yep. Just further proof that democracy is failing. All elections are rigged against our most powerful Leaders! Dictators rule! We may as well just let them do so.