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I doubt you would give them any credit for where we are no matter what, but Plenty of those contracts were done Years ago. Don't Open cut Mines damage vast tracts of Countryside and Wreck water tables? Solar doesn't damage the Countryside. You can farm or graze under it. Wind pays farmers who allow it and it provides them with a stable income. Batteries when installed benefit everybody. Nev

Geez you guys have short memories. SFM and Duttons hot Mike gaffe about our Pacific islanders losing thir countries was far worse.

Two weeks to go and just about everyone has written the Carroll government off. Most of the talk is not if they lose, but by how much. Now that they've pissed the Greens right off and lost Green preferences in a lot of seats, the hurdle just got bigger. But you never know until it's over and stranger things have happened. I'll never forget the Shorten election loss. He had opinion polls indicating that Labor was home and hosed to the point where Labor faithful at the election function room were cracking the champagne at close of polls. An hour later, those same people were a sad and sorry sight wandering around shellshocked. So anything can happen on the night. A surprise win for Victorian Labor would be a godsend for Federal Labor, but the reality is without a Labor win in Victoria, the best case scenario for the Feds is a Coalition minority with One Nation support. That gives them the hope of a chaotic, unworkable government making Labor look good for a return next time. It would also give the Feds more validity to their looming battle against One Nation and the Coalition in eighteen months time. On the flip side, the worse case scenario for Federal Labor is a Victorian Coalition majority that doesn't need One Nation. Especially if it goes on to be a stable, popular government. In that case, it would be a big negative for Labor's federal campaign. Certainly not your average state election; the whole country will be watching this one.

Where you read these things Matters. Is it the TRUTH OR Did you read it in the Murdoch Press?? Nev

They really are an ebarrassing couple of d*cks.

Last weekend I took Friday off, we deserted the kids (hey the eldest is 18 so there was theoretically an adult in the house) and the missus and I went to Swansea. I took the bike and she took the EV - strange, I know, but with Tassie you need to be prepared for any weather. As it was I was rained on every day of the weekend, but there was enough fine weather between the showers to make it worthwhile. We rode into Coles Bay on Saturday, had an excellent lunch and dropped in to Devil's Corner vineyard on the way back. On the way home the main tank ran dry 40km from Richmond. I wasn't too concerned because my wife was somewhere nearby, but as it was the reserve got me there. I was taking it very easy on the wet corners - but even so, at one point I touched the rear brake and felt the back end give a little. From then on I took it even easier. Very relaxing weekend!