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The problem with elections is that they have always, since way back in ancient times, been auctions. Candidates make outrageous offers involving spending money, but don't say that those offers are factual. Our system simply leads to any government formed from those elections doing things in the short term. Not that I am in favour of totalitarian systems, but look at least at China. It seems that their government is prepared to make plans for things that will not eventuate for a long time. That seems to get things done.

I doubt you would give them any credit for where we are no matter what, but Plenty of those contracts were done Years ago. Don't Open cut Mines damage vast tracts of Countryside and Wreck water tables? Solar doesn't damage the Countryside. You can farm or graze under it. Wind pays farmers who allow it and it provides them with a stable income. Batteries when installed benefit everybody. Nev

According to Tony Barry, historical preference flows show Green voters don't closely follow their how to vote cards. In past state and federal elections exhausted green votes have gone roughly 85% to Labor, 15% to the Coalition.

In 15 seats they are directing on how to vote cards Greens 1, One Nation last and no preferences in between.

IF that's all they can find to make a fuss of ,they are pretty desperate. It's just Muck raking. Nev

IF you understood things better you would know what you suggest is impossible. The cloud above big Planes wings is caused by low pressure and high REL humidity and it only forms over the wing and moves with the Plane. It's like a Lenticular Cloud in shape. Any contrails are from the H2O formed by Burning Hydrocarbon fuel and they don't form always depending (again) on Humidity. at the Planes altitude Nev

If it was off mike who would know? Politicians are just people after all. The problem lies in the possibility that what they say may be overheard and blown out of all proportion so they should know better.

How did they Manage to get the mists forming down wind of the Turbines? Nev

Banks could assist here. Why don't they offer "solar loans" - where they fund the installation of enough panels and battery that you don't have any debit bills. The repayment amount is set to the average of your last 12 months power bills. So there's no financial impact to the user but then in 6 or 8 or 10 years, you're not paying for power.

Geez you guys have short memories. SFM and Duttons hot Mike gaffe about our Pacific islanders losing thir countries was far worse.

Two weeks to go and just about everyone has written the Carroll government off. Most of the talk is not if they lose, but by how much. Now that they've pissed the Greens right off and lost Green preferences in a lot of seats, the hurdle just got bigger. But you never know until it's over and stranger things have happened. I'll never forget the Shorten election loss. He had opinion polls indicating that Labor was home and hosed to the point where Labor faithful at the election function room were cracking the champagne at close of polls. An hour later, those same people were a sad and sorry sight wandering around shellshocked. So anything can happen on the night. A surprise win for Victorian Labor would be a godsend for Federal Labor, but the reality is without a Labor win in Victoria, the best case scenario for the Feds is a Coalition minority with One Nation support. That gives them the hope of a chaotic, unworkable government making Labor look good for a return next time. It would also give the Feds more validity to their looming battle against One Nation and the Coalition in eighteen months time. On the flip side, the worse case scenario for Federal Labor is a Victorian Coalition majority that doesn't need One Nation. Especially if it goes on to be a stable, popular government. In that case, it would be a big negative for Labor's federal campaign. Certainly not your average state election; the whole country will be watching this one.

Where you read these things Matters. Is it the TRUTH OR Did you read it in the Murdoch Press?? Nev

They really are an ebarrassing couple of d*cks.

Last weekend I took Friday off, we deserted the kids (hey the eldest is 18 so there was theoretically an adult in the house) and the missus and I went to Swansea. I took the bike and she took the EV - strange, I know, but with Tassie you need to be prepared for any weather. As it was I was rained on every day of the weekend, but there was enough fine weather between the showers to make it worthwhile. We rode into Coles Bay on Saturday, had an excellent lunch and dropped in to Devil's Corner vineyard on the way back. On the way home the main tank ran dry 40km from Richmond. I wasn't too concerned because my wife was somewhere nearby, but as it was the reserve got me there. I was taking it very easy on the wet corners - but even so, at one point I touched the rear brake and felt the back end give a little. From then on I took it even easier. Very relaxing weekend!

Gilgandra is a typical inland town. The local indigenous mob are the Widjuri, with Gamillaroi as next-door neighbours. Our Op Shop gets trade from the residents of the town and surrounding towns, as well as the travellers (who make up a large part of our customer base).. For the size of the indigenous population in the area, we see very few of them in the shop. The word is that the indigenous people are not doing it so tough and can afford to buy from the major chain stores.