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Well they passed the stadium. Only this bunch of losers (and I lump together both major parties and the spineless independents who voted yes) could take leave of their senses, bend the entire state over a barrel, and pimp our collective arse to the AFL. Only they could ignore the planning experts and every economist, all of whom comprehensively rejected this monstrosity, and approve something which will cost well over $1b, bring in revenue of less than half of that, dominate the historic Hobart waterfront, and has no parking or public transport. Oh, and when in use will block up traffic on the busiest street in the city. At a time when Tasmania is already holding historic levels of debt, just been downgraded by S&P, and is crying out for staff and services in health, education and justice. This guy puts it better than I ever could. Victoria, stop complaining about your state government, I think we've got it worse right now. https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/12/04/tasmania-macquarie-point-stadium-cost/

The AFL are generously giving the project a whole $15m, or around 1%. The taxpayer is providing the other 99%. Putting on my Nostradamus goggles, I predict that the AFL and any other private companies involved will see a return on investment, whereas all losses will be borne by the rest of us.

The developers, combined with the vast sums of money available in the sporting arena today, will always get their way. I think this stadium is idiocy, especially the siting, and the monetary burden on such a small number of the Australian population. It's not like the money is being thrown into a major energy or water or food security plan, or other future national civilisation security outlay - it's just the equivalent of a Roman amphitheatre. The W.A. Govt outlaid £2.5B ($5B) for the massive (for its time) Kalgoorlie reticulated water scheme, between 1899 and 1902. The project involved a large new dam, a 600km pipeline, 8 large steam-driven pumping stations, a sizeable number of storage tanks, and all the associated infrastructure. The State population was only 140,000 people at the time, and the howls of outrage over the massive repayment burden (for centuries, claimed the opponents) on the W.A. population, were loud and long - and the loudest and most virulent opposition came from the editor of the local Sunday Times, one Frederick Vosper. Vosper's continuous vicious attacks on the architect of the scheme, Charles Yelverton O'Connor, led to O'Connor committing suicide under the stress of the attacks, and overwork. Regardless, the scheme has been a major success, and has returned its outlay in spades over 123 years, and Kalgoorlie has produced hundreds of billions worth of gold and other important minerals, thanks to the ample supply of water available to the W.A. Goldfields. I see no similar success or monetary return for the Tasmanians on their sporting outlay. The only beneficiaries will be that small number of people involved in major sports, and sports events are not energy, water or food security plans.

Those Victorian facilities are for Everyone's eventual Benefit. and are also an Infrastructural Necessity in a fast growing Place Like Melbourne is. Tassie has about the same Population as Geelong But you have to sail or fly to get there, which put's a COST on everyone going there and returning afterwards. Eric ABETZ is the Treasurer, A throw back from the DARK ages if ever there was One. They aren't LISTENING to the People who will be the ones stuck with this decision. The AFL won't come to the rescue.. Nev

There was a comedy series on ABC called "Utopia". One episode in 2014, "We can Build It", used the idea of a football stadium in Tasmania. The crux of the story was that the politicians wanted the stadium, but the advisors actually put up sensible reasons why it would be a White Elephant. The episode was so prophetic that iit should have been screened in the Tasmanian parliament before the vote was taken.

Imagine if he joined our forum, non of us would get through all his posts.😂

Both North Melbourne and Hawthorn play a handful of home games, usually at Universityof Tasmania Stadium. With a capacity of 17.5k, one can usually see plenty of empty seats at these games

Long term you still have the servicing and maintenance factor that an EV doesn't have. Once the fixed cost servicing has expired and the warrantee. Nev

Whatever way we go, there are costs. Do you really think that building nuclear power plants will not impact your bill?

I think you will find the fuel economy is pretty good for a larger car, especially around town. Still take some time to pay back the monetary difference of the fuel but over the buy price.

Have heard that one at least 100 times this morning alone...

Did you say 'deer oh deer'?

Rubber ducky you’re the one you make bath time lots of fun

That is also my plan

A lot of counties don't have the sun and wind we have there's also tidal which works every day with the tide going IN OR OUT. When you put steam into the equation it's less efficient and when failure happens it's a sudden Loss of a Large amount and May take ages to fix . It is only efficient at near full output and can't be varied quickly. Brand NEW coal Plant is costly. Carbon Capture and storage is a Myth. Our demand pattern has changed. Most people run airconditioning and have a fair bit of refrigeration. Heating water directly by electricity (Elements) is an expensive way of doing it. Solar by concentration can Produce very HIGH temperatures. That's helpful for specialised processes, yet to be realised. No one can deprive you of solar. Yet. Nev

When you think of the number of non-sporting events that take place at the MCG and Marvel Stadium, it will give Hobart a facility for entertainment that they don't currently have. As for the cost - you could compare it to the horrendously expensive Metro Tunnel and Suburban Rail loop that generations of Victorians have been saddled with. But many on this forum have exclaimed "But it's infrastructure we need.", even if not available well into the future.