nomadpete

I do hope you are right Litespeed 🍿🍿

Thanks for the clarification. It is set in concrete. So be it. So, now that we have established that, what do suggest to help that particular demographic group of Australians to improve their lot? How do you suggest we solve the soverignty conflict? Shall we send all those dreadful white invaders back to where they csme from?

I'll only answer one point at a time. Re: The Eddy Mabo case . I was not aware that the High Cout based their decision on agriculture carried out on Murray Island in Torres Strait. Thanks for enlightening me on that. However, it is rather strange to see that the judgement is automatically applied to mainland indigenous. You may notice that ATSIC stands for two distinctly different races/cultures. An indication that there are (at least) two very separate cultures from two geographically separate places, people that do not even like to be in the same room. This has been indicated to me personally by the people I met on Torres Strait islands, and by numerous Cape york inhabitants. I note also, that it might be questionable whether British ever declared Torres Strait as being terra nullius. I do not know when whites started inhabiting Torres Strait area but it sure wasn't related to the Botany Bay exercise. Aside from the above, the island people were not nomadic in the way that mainlanders were. So it comes as no surprise that they planted food and built permanent homes. I do not see a valid comparison with the nomads of the mainland who generally followed their seasonal food sources, carrying literally a handful of weapons, tools or food. I guess, if the early colonisers specified terra nullius applied to all islands up to and including New Guinea, the ruling applies, but to base the court ruling on one small group of islanders growing crops, and applying it to all Australia, when the vast majority in a different location (mainland nomads) probably didn't, seems rather biased.

I would be surprised if a vehicle badge (any brand) is actually strong enough to penetrate a tyre.

I suggest that what some are calling 'agriculture' in this debate, would also label Johnny Appleseed as practicing agriculture. When all he really did was drop some seeds along his travel path. However, I say again, 'What has this to do with sovereignty?'

A source of starch such as this would be important nutritionally. But the presence of those grasses and the use of them doesn't confirm a structured farming practice. And, either way, what does that have to do with present day nutrition, or land rights?

Are you sure that the High Court used the words 'taken by conquest'? Or is that an extrapolation? The above leans toward my thoughts on the matter. Every human currently on the continent should have equal value (today) as an Australian, under the present law of the land. (For a moment Leaving aside the debates about new immigrants) There is no way to right the wrongs of the past. And many attempts to do so, result in dividing people, and/or creating abuse and waste.

I agree, but my point is, what alternatives are available when angry mobs start rioting (or uprising, depending on whose side you are on). The basic barfight rule would apply to national guard - 'Don't go into a fight unless you know you can win with the first punch.' Otherwise it degenerates into a war.

That pic is starting to remind me of Montgomery Burns

But what options do they have if angry mobs get out of hand? Option 1. Stand back a safe distance and watch the destruction Option 2. Bring in reinforcements and subdue the mad mob.

He does sound a bit biased. My takeaway, is that unless that little incursion turns into a new front (the land is held), it amounts to very little in the big picture.

Well they used to say 'big wheels turn slowly'. Seems they can act quickly and decisively when they really want to.

Based on don's record, I expect that would change elon from bff to 'horrible man'.

The wages of sin is death. But the hours are great!

Didn't Elon donate 45 million per month to donny's advertising campaign? We call that cash for comment in this country.

So, god wants us to suffer throughout our term on the planet. If I self flaggelate whilst engaging in a pleasurable activity, will god be ok with that?

And they cannot tax it. That must upset those hard right wingers.

Has anyone fact checked this? I wouldn't know where to start. If it's real, it shows the unpredictability of coincidence.

Aaah. The aussie version had a different motor! I had a couple of sedans the same as your picture (they had a poor swing half axle rear suspension) and a waggon which had much better rear suspension. It even had a way to convert it to a camper. I think none in Australia had two stroke motors.

But you don't even have a trumpf over there!

Need I remind you the title of this thread?

Sorry Spacey, the Lloyd Hartnett was a air cooled four stroke, with hemi combustion chambers and needle roller bearings. More like a modern motorcycle engine. It was an interesting car. I had a couple when I wore a younger man's clothes.

Quoting from Wiki: "also spelled Lilit, Lilitu, or Lilis, is a feminine figure in Mesopotamian and Jewish mythology, theorized to be the first wife of Adam[1] and a primordial she-demon. Lilith is cited as having been "banished"[2] from the Garden of Eden for not complying with and obeying Adam."

Lillith, like most ex wives, was portrayed as being an evil witch. And her story was erased. Adam wanted a more subservient girl, but look what he (and subsequently, we) ended up with! There was no story about Lillith tempting Adam into the 'original sin', was there? We are talking about REDICULOUS stuff, aren't we?

Yeah, the story goes that Eve was the temptress. To me that sounds like she was dogs revenge on Adam for whingeing about Lillian, his chosen mate.