nomadpete

Last time I looked, a flue kit (to meet the standards) was $500 at the hardware monopoly shop. And it isn't much more than a bunch of low grade thin walled stainless pipes.

Careful what you wish for. For the past week we have had one front after the other coming through with gusts to 40kts, driving constant drizzle and tree branches horizontally. We'd love to have some (merely) brisk wind for a change. Normally a 5 degree day is ok but with this wind sending it right through four layers, it feels quite cold.

Thanks for the comprehensive reply. Where do I start? My major motive is to tease out the thorny problem of "So, what can we do to improve things all round?" Taking your above quote, it seems that there are only two options: 1:- Integration to bring harmony via compromise. (Didn't work in the past). 2:- Provision of a time warp bubble to preserve old ways. (Didn't work in the past). I am looking for the all new item 3. I'll make one last observation before I move away from the whole redress for old injustices arguments. There have been a few notable such international compensations carried out in recent history, but there must be many thousands that were left to fade as nations merged and shifted through the ages. It would do little to resolve the resentment that rises when one culture gets swamped by another. I can only see it being a divisive approach to our conundrum.

Car names.... Who can forget the Mitzi Starrion? Did some asian sales team ask around for a strong virile name that challenges the fame of Ford's Mustang?

In my view, the culture of any place will trend toward whatever the majority of the population does. This is not a result of of governmental agreements. It has already been acknowledged that, for instance, our more recent multicultural society has benefited from the arrival of many different nationalities of migrants. As such the culture has adopted many changing attitudes, religions, foods, etc. The culture is directed by the majority. Just as early British influences grew to override the indigenous culture, the British has benn totally changed due to large numbers of arrivals of other cultures. My grandparents would not recognise todays culture. People adopt the changes that suit them. The indigenous have done this, just as the rest of us have. We bleat about the good old days, but they are gone. So, regardless of a relatively recent judgement about early settlers, the culture of the country will always bend to the culture of the majority. The early european settlers would have died if they tried to adopt the indigenous life. I do not see the point you are making about that. The indigenous only survived for tens of thousands of years by adapting to a changing world. Otherwise they would have died out long ago. All cultures evolve and adapt to changing conditions. Just as the life and culture that the early settlers knew, is gone forever, so the life and original culture of the original indigenous is mostly gone. The reality is, todays people are adapting to the new culture as it evolves. Which brings me back to my earlier question... "What kind of sovereignty do some indigenous desire, and what are the implications of it?" How will it improve the lives of the most disadvantaged members of their demographic group?

In an attempt to clarify my point, I am asserting that I was not part of that early settlement of people that the high court made a judgement about. The judgement really refers to the bureaucracy behind the activity a bunch of people who are long dead. That is all about historic issues. We now have current issues that deserve being addressed. The whole terra nullius issue is unlikely to change the standard of living of ANYONE in this country. Had there been no statement that it was terra nullius, would the outcome today be any different? I think not. And the peoples - that is all the people of today's Australia should be working toward harmonious coexistence.

The high court, of which you speak, can only rule about the acts of the first fleet. The recent indigenous people born in this country (ie the rest of us) are not of the group that may have had a leader who, hundreds of yearss ago, claimed ' terra nullius'. please stop burdening the rest of us recent indigenous australians with this historic aggreivance.

Recumbents rule!

Hey does this exclusive offer include a set of steak knives for the first 75 buyers?

Or at least before they vote..... or get a social media account

Not relevant to Crikey it's Wet, but maybe "Crikey did mother nature just give me a Mummyslap?" The sum pf two sine waves of different frequency ..... When Indian Ocean swell meets Pacific Ocean swell in Bass Strait, the waves cycle between A+B monsters to A-B lulls. And today, "Crikey this wind would blow a dog off its chain"

I did notice that

The old Spirit of Tasmania brought us home a couple of days ago. Bass Strait and the strong westerlies made for an energetic voyage. First time for me to feel queasy. And the loud bangs and groaning (of the vessel as well as passengers!) as she twisted with the swell had my muddled mind wondering about metal fatigue.

Steady on! Don't start a discrimination fight.

Thanks! Great idea! Where do you buy your bats? Will the Federal government provide me pink ones?

The issue of what to believe about indigenous historic culture and indigenous capabilities will only get murkier and murkier as time passes. Too many people are sharpening their ability to manipulate unverifiable stories, to help justify their agendas, on either side. Too many decisions are made by people who do not have first hand experience with the people most affected by the outcomes of high level decisions about large amounts of money. The recent generations are not particularly closely connected to their ancient culture. They were born into a newer spectrum of cultures that are mostly neither mainstream (ie like the majority of the present population) nor of the historic traditional indigenous values and behaviours. Whatever. Arguments aside, I don't believe that many (or any?) indigenous or part indigenous would choose to return to their great grand father's life on the land, even if that was possible. It is not The same goes for the rest of the population of Australia. So the question is, "just what do these disenfranchised people wish to achieve?" Therein lies the biggest cause of the constant noise.

I'd go so far as to apply that to any state government.

Don't bother standing on the seat... The crabs in here can jump six feet!

Aaaah, sweet memories. And best if all, Blue Hill, by Gwen Meredith.... only went for 15 minutes!

On the back of the door of our motel in Lakes Entrance. It looks like they are having trouble with the crabs....

Thanks. As you know, deserts are regularly brlow zero degrees. I don't get an impression that it was very common, otherwise I would see historic paintings and early records of lots of clothed people. Any idea what they traditionally used for tanning and softening hides? I am just trying to work out how much of the modern narrative is a case of cherry picking, done to suit the polarised narratives on both sides.

Is there verified history of Australian indigenous tanning hides? Or wearing warm fur skin coats in the freezing desert nights? Are there eatly pictures of them carrying a lot in their hands?

You are forgiven 🙂

Marty, you missed his point. He was not supporting trumpy, he was highlighting some reasons for so many disillusioned americans supporting trump. For what it's worth, my opinion is that the Dems are overlooking those reasons. They might swing a lot of voters toward their camp if they promised to overhaul the big governmental bureaucracy. That might help to restore faith in government.

Is there evidence of grain carrying backpacks? Dilly bags were not large, and water containers were not common. When you are walking any distance with limited carrying capacity, there are problems after you are already carrying infants, digging sticks, woomeras, boomerangs, spears, nulla nullas, goods to trade, seeds to plant, etc.