M61A1

If the VF1000F is anything like a VF750F, I would have considered setting it on fire. Would have been more gratifying than riding it.

Yesterday was a gorgeous day for Driftering....I spent it cleaning my house. Today was forecast for similar, so I was up 5:30, went out to the strip, and the cloud rolled in......now copping a solid thunderstorm.

Almost??? Pick any servo.....1 litre of pulp: about $1.68, 600mls of very average water:$4.50+.

We could really use some ground saturation, while the cracks in the ground aren't huge yet, they're still big enough to lose a spanner if you drop it. We've only about 2 days in the last month where the wind has been under 15 kts. Today is quite nice, but I've heaps of handyman crap to do. If tomorrow's any good I'll take the 95.10out for a spin.

Is that it? Is that all you have to say FT? Really? Seriously? Wow you really are in need of a set of balls. Blame the guy who took the pic, that YOU chose to put up on this forum, instead of standing up and coping it sweet when people get the irrits. Oh Mrs M61A1 here by the way. So now we are going to blame some faceless person that you stole the pic from. You are the man FT.

More selective reading.........not to mention a completely irrelevant comparison.

You need to word it correctly.. "But you turn off the TV when the ABC starts telling me things that are obviously selective or one sided".

Agree entirely, It would have been nice to have been taught that, I had to learn it for myself.

I will happily accept the truth when I know what it is, the reality is that you haven't presented any facts just other opinions. I think that you are ignoring a lot of truths yourself, and only accept that which supports your own views, which makes you no different, just on a different side of the fence.

Australia has made quite a few objectionable people wealthy, I'm not sure what your obsession with Alan Jones is, but I can assure you that I don't listen to talkback radio, most of them seem to have the same method, where they ask loaded questions and if they don't like the answer the interviewee gets conveniently cut off. As far as facts, you seem to have missed 2 keywords in your picture, "probably", and "think", that makes it an opinion,(an educated one perhaps) but an opinion nonetheless. This whole thread is just a bunch of opinions, nothing more, and, so far I've not seen anything, that changes the way I see the world, and I imagine there are a lot of other posters, just the same. Essentially, you will view me as a racist and a bigot, and I will view those that think these illegal immigrants are all just innocent refugees, as quite clueless to the reality.

I'm not suggesting that it be privatised, or that Murdoch get his way, just that, given that they are public property, that they remain neutral, I don't think that is much to ask. When I do watch telly, it's usually of a documentary nature, so generally it's ABC or SBS.

Fair cop......but I'm not going to sit down and watch a few bits just so I can tell you what I think is wrong. Judging by other media, a very recent one would have to be the reporting on the burned hands issue, but I didn't watch it so I cannot comment on it honestly. Actually the reporting on our live export was proven to be a lot of garbage......another that springs to mind.

Off the top of my head, almost anything in current affairs where they can get away with it, in regard to illegal immigration, climate change, feminism, you name it, and they will be out to the far left of it. I ceased to watch their current affairs shows as well as the commercial ones some time ago. I get the distinct impression that that there are people starting out in the industry, trying to make a name for themselves, by being rather topical and progressive, but failing miserably

I personally think that they'd be better off, making them all register type of iron clad pre-nup, that details how they will separate, how their belongings will b split and how their children will be managed, while they're still on good terms. Then force them to abide by it when they divorce. That should free up the FLC a fair bit. I don't get how Murdoch's biased media is not ok, but ABC media is....they're both as bad as each other, just in opposite directions, pick some middle ground, and maybe you'll find the truth, but you'll never know.

There has been plenty in most arenas of media about the ABC's bias, like most other media, if I find it to be offensive or irritating, I just turn it off. So I don't watch a lot of telly these days.

While I agree that the Murdoch press is biased to the right, I just can't see how biasing the ABC to equal amount to the left makes it unbiased. A lot of the so called " journalism" , from the ABC, is downright and obviously selective and subjective in the extreme. A publicly owned station has no right to be that way.

Realistically, the ABC leans a long way left, as the Murdoch press leans to the right, finding a balanced and accurate view is rather difficult. Which is why, in issues like this one, I base most of my view point from personal experience and the experience of others that I trust. Our media in this country has their own agendas, and is often not reliable for an objective viewpoint.

Is that because he got his "you're" and "your" correct?

Well have a link to the actual govt report then.. http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-arrivals.pdf I know it won't change your mind, but it does demonstrate that the article is merely quoting the study.

Here, have some stats..... http://www.news.com.au/national/a-world-of-long-term-welfare-for-refugees/story-e6frfkvr-1226050161428

Some from certain areas, some from good friend who spent years in some places. I know that they are not all bad people, but the culture is very different and many things that are acceptable there, are not here, yet largely they refuse to leave those things behind. By coming in through the back door, they have already demonstrated which group they are in.

Are you saying that you worked in a public hospital in the Middle East, or that because you work with some Middle Eastern doctors you know what things are like for Joe Average in Afghanistan & Saudi? Johnny's not my mate, and never will be. I don't particularly like Abbot, I just hate him less than the Gillard/Rudd circus. My stance on illegal immigrants was as it is when Bob Hawk was in power, and has only been reinforced by experience.

Well that's about the most optimistic view I've heard about someone with the perfect attributes to become a brilliant criminal in this country. Resourceful- A good crim has to be. Used to living in danger (talk their way out of anything). Used to dealing with corruption- put that with welfare & see how that goes. Do you have any experience in dealing with the culture in that region?

I look forward to reaching the "RED" zone. We won't have to do many, but I'll bet they stop coming pretty quick.

Find and read a book called "Australian Atheism", it details how much Gillard was spending on keeping the religious happy. A good read.