Marty_d

Why don't you get a $20 gas strut from Bunnings?

OME, bringing in the name of Adolf Hitler's propaganda minister as a comparison to... who, exactly? Your first post says "proponents", then your last "the present day government"... in any case, some vague group of people, who are not seeking to create the master race or the third reich, nor eliminate Jews, homosexuals and the disabled, but instead are working towards helping to save the future of mankind on this planet, is kind of astounding. Misinformation abounds these days. From Trump's "alternate facts" to whole factories of super-spreader social media liars in Russia, to the "Leave" campaign in Brexit. But for this thread you chose as your target not Phillip Morris, who have lied about the health effects of tobacco (and now vapes) for years, not the fossil fuel industry, who lied about climate change for years, not the NRA, who have lied about gun violence for years, not Putin, who lied about an entire country so he could invade it, not religious fundamentalists, who have lied about everything for years... ...but people who support electric vehicles. Can you step back and see how that looks?

Trump is tragic for the US but in himself is a comedic figure rather than a tragic one. I don't know much ancient Greek history - no doubt they had some spectacularly bad leaders, as did the Romans - but I doubt they would be able to find anything sympathetic in the Orange Clown. As for insight, I would lay serious money that it is a total stranger to Trump, along with empathy, compassion, character and dignity.

That's Holly Valance - ex-Aussie actor (Neighbours of course). Had a hit single "Kiss Kiss" in 2002. Now she's married a pommy billionaire and gone raving bonkers.

That was a deliberate trap. 😁

Unfortunately this cold I have at the moment is playing havoc with the thinking process. Willing to bet that one of them is an E though.

For fans of Total Recall (1990)

Just for you Willedoo... because he's such a fun guy...

That reminds me of an Irishman who went for a job as a mechanic. At the interview the boss asked him "So, Paddy, do you have any experience?" Paddy says "Yes, I do!" Boss says "What was your last job?" Paddy: "I was a diesel fitter, in Myers." Boss frowns. "In Myers? I didn't know they had a car repair service!" "Oh no sir," say Paddy. "It was in ladies underthings!" "What?" says the boss. What use is a diesel fitter in ladies underthings?" "Well," says Paddy, "I were very good at sizing up the ladies sizes. Just one look and I'd pick up a bra and panties, and say "Dese 'll fit her!"

You'd have to ask Stormy about that. I reckon the little blue pill is involved.

You don't think the Kingborough Chronicle will give him a fair go Peter? (Free local rag). We pick up multiple copies of the KC... they're great for starting the fire.

Didn't they made a movie about that, with Matt Damon... what was the title again? "Shaving Ryan's Privates" I think.

If you decide to run as an independent in the seat of Franklin, there's at least 1 vote for you Litespeed.

Wonder if the scammers are using AI. When I came here this morning there were only 2 threads in the "unread"... this one (should social media be anonymous), and "Buy fake passport Buy other document". It's all about the anonymity!

I've been meaning to go in for a test. Heard nothing but good things about them by those who use them.

Last point first, no one should ever believe anything Sky puts out, that's obvious. However I think that we should be able to bag pollies when their statements or behaviour are not to the standard we deserve from our representatives. They chose to become politicians to represent the people in their electorate, and knowing that they are becoming a public figure. If their party becomes government, they have a broader duty to ALL people in the country. So part of that responsibility includes never knowingly making false or misleading statements, but unfortunately, that's what happens. When they use hyperbole to score a political point (eg Tony Abbott's "$100 lamb roasts") then they're lying to the country. When they put ideology before facts (eg Dutton's blind support of nuclear power and hatred of renewables) then they're lying to the country. When they argue against political donation transparency, against greater scrutiny of integrity, and as @nomadpete mentioned - against requiring truth in political advertising, then they're acting against all our interest and should be called out on it. How many times have you listened to a politician on the radio avoiding the questions put to them by the interviewer, never giving a straight answer, making blanket statements and doing everything they can to push the party line, even if they don't agree with it? Would I be prepared to do their job? No way. But that's not a reason for them to be dishonest.

Interesting side thought, if you could snap your fingers / rub a genie and make it impossible for any politician, anywhere, to lie, obfuscate, mislead or cloud the issue - would it be better or worse for the world?

Good (and more) moderation is the thing. While I agree that you should be able to post anonymously (you can imagine the murder rate increasing dramatically if everyone had the real world names and addresses of people who posted something they violently disagreed with), I also think it's the responsibility of any platform to moderate properly. The problem comes then that these are private for-profit corporations whose owners and boards may be, in some cases, (what's the medical term? - oh yeah) "bat-shit crazy". The other problem is that the corporations are often based overseas. The recent court case by Australia's e-safety commissioner against one such corporation to remove the video footage of that priest being stabbed has proved how little power nation states have against them. The other problem is VPN's. This allows anyone to mask what country they're actually in, and they're getting more and more common (many anti-virus programs actively encourage users to use a VPN). However, you really don't want to stop this feature because it's the only way people living in authoritarian countries can actually get information from the outside world. Verifying age would be a good thing, but obviously as you say, who holds that data? You really wouldn't want that treasure trove of ID documents getting hacked. It's a conundrum all right. On the one hand it's obvious these corporations need more legislative oversight (including forcing them to pay tax in countries where they're making a profit), but if they find this too oppressive / profit limiting, they'll just move to a country with laxer laws.

I'd just like to point out there's no side mirrors - how does the driver tell when someone is trying to overtake him?? 🤔

Yes, the crash even changed the colour of their life raft!

Shallow and Inconsistent describe pretty much everything that comes out of Voldemort's mouth. I don't think Albo and his government have done too badly. Are there things I didn't agree with? Of course. But on the whole I'd rate them a solid 7/10.

People who pose for photos?

Jared.

I didn't know either Glod Coast or Gellong were playing... (sorry Jerry!)

The Rabbit with the bad 'abbit