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In anothern l-o-n-g post on FB with much of it repeated 2 or 3 times, the story is that the suspect, Tyler Robinson, was living with his close friend, who took his phone to the police to show text between them. It is believed the friend was transgender and there may have been a romantic relationship between them. Kirk was an outspoken denouncer of the LGBQTI movement, and it may be that Robinson may have been motivated by this outspoken condemnation of his personal arrangements, rather than a political motive.
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There's more to it, Nev.
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Copied from Facebook: BREAKING: Donald Trump's niece Mary Trump enrages MAGA world by sharing the cold hard truth that her uncle is responsible for the "political violence" that he is desperately trying to blame on Democrats. We won't allow these fascists to gaslight us... "Political violence and the rhetoric that drives it are almost entirely on the side of the Republican Party, and no person is more responsible for it than Donald Trump,” Mary wrote on her Substack. "Facing that truth does not mean rejoicing in what happened to Charlie Kirk. Quite the opposite: It means coming to terms with what is driving the political violence in America today," she wrote. President Trump exploited the assassination of right-wing demagogue Charlie Kirk earlier this week by calling him a "martyr" and blaming the "radical left" even though the identity of the shooter wasn't known at the time. Even now, it's the killer's motive and political beliefs are unknown. Trump doesn't care. He saw an opportunity to sow division and he seized it. Mary pointed out that Democratic lawmakers rushed to condemn Kirk's shooting while Republicans have sought to turn it to their political advantage by blaming Democrats and journalists. Comparatively, when Paul Pelosi was attacked in his home, conservatives celebrated and mocked the horrifying incident, with Donald Trump himself even joining in. Republicans demand an endless supply of empathy from liberals but provide none themselves. "Donald has almost single-handedly created the conditions in which his grievance, his vengeance, and his cruelty extend to anybody that supports him," Mary Trump continued. "Anybody who opposes him or stands up to him or simply doesn’t support him is his enemy and is therefore not worthy of protection. Worse, they are considered legitimate targets of abuse or revenge, cruelty or violence." "He has incited violence against his perceived political enemies as well as against his own government and then pardoned those who committed it on his behalf," she went on. "This is not a 'both sides issue.' This is not a moment when we put aside our differences to come to some agreed upon notion about how to move beyond this. With Donald Trump and those who support, enable, and capitulate to him in power that would be impossible." "We have arrived here in large part because this country has been purposefully and maliciously divided against itself because of the rhetoric coming from Donald Trump and the Republican Party," she added. She went on to quote Kirk's own now-viral words. The MAGA demagogue said that the price of an "armed citizenry" is a certain number of guns deaths. "But I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights," said Kirk. "That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.” Mary Trump empathetically but forcefully addressed his words— "Well, unfortunately, the universe we live in is a universe created by people who actually think that guns in our society are more important than the lives of the people living in it," she wrote. "Unfortunately, we live in a universe in which violence, political or otherwise, has been normalized by one party and one party only. The Democrats should condemn what happened today. Any decent right-thinking person should condemn what happened today." "But we are missing the point, we are, indeed, missing an opportunity if we do not take the tragedy that unfolded today as permission to start a broader conversation about how we got here, who's responsible, and quite frankly what the hell we are going to do about it," she concluded.
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Apparently it was his father, a 30 year veteran Utah cop who turned him in.
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I have started this topic becauseit it has been taking over the Trump topiv. BREAKING: MAGA world flies into panic mode as the grandmother of Charlie Kirk's suspected assassin Tyler Robinson reveals that his entire family is hardcore MAGA. The Republican narrative has collapsed in record time... “My son, his dad, is a Republican for Trump. Most of my family members are Republican. I don’t know any single one who’s a Democrat," the suspect's grandmother Debbie Robinson told The Daily Mail. “I’m just so confused. [Tyler] is the shyest person. He has never, ever spoke politics to me at all," she added. The Daily Beast reported that both of Robinson's parents are registered Republicans who hold hunting licenses. They appear to be run-of-the-mill conservative gun nuts. In the immediate aftermath of Kirk's assassination, Republicans rushed to blame Democrats. Donald Trump pointed a finger at the "radical left" and MAGA influencers, including Donald Trump Jr., gleefully embraced the false narrative that the shooter was transgender. We now know that the alleged shooter was a 22-year-old white Mormon man from Utah. It seems increasingly likely that he was a far-right supporter of the white nationalist Nick Fuentes. The engravings on the bullets found appear to be references to memes popular within Fuentes's "groyper" movement. Groypers despised Charlie Kirk because he wasn't right-wing enough for their taste and they believe that he sold out the "America First" movement. One bullet was engraved with the phrase “Hey fascist! Catch!" but it does not appear to be a left-wing "antifa" message as Republicans originally claimed. Instead, it seems to be a reference to a satirical slogan in the popular video game Helldivers 2. Video games are a crucial cornerstone of the bizarre groyper worldview, along with misogyny and racism. In the coming days we will no doubt learn more about this twisted shooter and his hateful beliefs but we cannot allow Republicans to slink away without taking responsibility for their lies. Yesterday, they were promising now civil war. Now that it appears the shooter was one of their own, they want to move on. We must hold them accountable. The shooter is not transgender, is not a Democrat, and is not an immigrant. He's an unstable homegrown white man with access to firearms. America's gun violence problem is a Republican problem.
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Eons ago, when cable TV first came out, Optus TV broadcast the VFL footy (pre AFL). My younger son was a dead keen Richmond Tigers supporter (still is), so we got Optus cable TV so he could watch the footy. If you had an Optus account, you could get free Optus webmail accounts. So I got two, my wife, two sons and daughter got one each. The footy is now on Foxtel, but my daughter has an Optus mobile wi-fi device she uses with her iPad when she is at a sport event or travelling on the train, so she can watch things like F1 racing etc. The account was still in my name from all those years ago, but she had a problem with her password and tried to change it. To do this required one of those one-time codes, but she didn't know where it was sent. The phone on the account was mine, so the code should have been texted to that. But I never received it so she couldn't access her email. She had ordered tickets to the finals and to the F1 Gp which were sent to her email, but she couldn't access them. She eventually got onto someone in their customer service call centre, but they needed to speak to me as account holder to OK things. To cut a very long story short, we decided to transfer the account into her name but to do that proved more uphill than climbing Mt Everest. My hearing is totally shot. Trying to listen to something is like listening down a vacuum cleaner hose. The call centre is in India, so the accents are hard to listen to for most people, but with my codition, it was near impossible. The other problem was that when then called us back, it was at a time we were travelling home, or I was trying to listen to the news, usually around 6:30 pm. Ans despite being told on at least 3 occasions to call my daughters phone, they rang mine, and we were often nowhere near one another. Finally (hopefully), we got it sorted out tonight, after over half an hour and at least three sepearte calls on two phones. The operator was pleasant and patient, but the customer service would hardly rate a 3 out of 10 due to foreign accent, particularly for a senior like me. I explained I was extremely deaf and used the phone more for texting than talking. Why can't they have Australian call centres and operators?
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I have no idea. Nev, what are the missing letters, and what phrase does that create? Sorry, I've been trying to sort out a problem with some of our email accounts with an Indian call centre. It's been going on for 4 days.