Old Koreelah

Sorry to be late with this comment, but this statement: A photo of a display at Mackay Airport in Queensland's North riled 2GB host Ben Fordham on Thursday, who argued most people would not know the Indigenous names for locations such as Brisbane and Townsville Surely that the whole bluddy point! -about time we learned a bit about our own country’s history!

Bruce there are plenty of examples of that, but also plenty of white fellas have mismanaged what they have been given. I’m a bit cynical about some of these pastoral handbacks. What training had they been given in preparation for running these stations? I believe some of these runs had never been successful when experienced white fellas were in charge. I suspect they were set up to fail. It reminds me of the Soldier Settlement scheme, when diggers who had survived The Great War were given a little parcel of land to farm. Some made a go of it, but many never had a hope, with little experience on too-small blocks of marginal land that the clever squatters had avoided.

Should have gone to Speksavers! Pesky buggers crap on our verandah and I’ve had one female walking around on our roof. My wife mows the stuff near the house, I wizz the rocky stuff.

This is mine a moment ago: A family of Wallaroos on our lawn. The white building 12km away is the old Bondi Tram terminal, relocated, reclad and repurposed as a farm shed. The low 35 away is Breeza Mt.

The MS media have done a great job of convincing voters not to trust government. Voter turnout in the US is appallingly low and the obscene Republicans are making it much harder for minorities to vote. The Democrats should be campaigning with the slogan “vote while you still can”. If they don’t turn out to toss out this utterly corrupt congress, they’ll lose the chance. If Trump gets back in the White House Australia will be in a real pickle too; No Nuclear subs, alliances shredded, trade insanity…and lots of US refugees.

Good point Spenaroo. There’s no mystery about why fat little Kim is investing so much of North Korea’s limited resources on nuclear weapons; he saw what happened when Iraq and Libya gave up theirs. Not having nukes is a guarantee that America and it’s allies can destroy your country.

Mine has already passed that milestone. My workmanship may not be neat as some, but it’s built solid, using over 200tonnes of material, using passive solar design that should make it a viable home worth maintaining far into the future.

Not likely to happen, when so many of us are 5 or six generations in this country. Reminds me of the cartoon of an old Native American getting all excited about the Apollo program; he though all the white fellas were gonna bugger off his land and go to the moon.

One possible reason is how state politicians north of the border always play the “putting Queensland first” card.

Back to climate, a worrying recent discovery: https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-07-21/greenland-ice-core-secret-us-army-base-reveals-dramatic-melting/102609654?utm_campaign=abc_news_web_vertical_share&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web The only upside I can see is that so many climate change deniers have flocked to Florida and other beachside locations. Their investments will be under water within a few decades. Do they care about their children?

Sadly, I agree. Putin’s attacks on civilian targets are not just vengeance- he’s forcing them to use up their scarce defensive missiles. Haliburton and all the other weapons makers must be popping the bubbly corks- huge orders, massive profits from supplying both sides, just like several American corporations did in the first years of WWII.

Because they want more, much more. Some want autonomy, others a Treaty (as promised by Hawke). How do you make treaty with 255 separate groups? Meanwhile, why is nobody comparing this proposal to NZ, where, for 150 years, they’ve had seats in Parliament reserved for Maori? That doesn’t seem to have caused any damage to their democracy.

Sad to realise that many voters still beleve Dutton and the crew who brought us Robodebts and the most blatant rorts. The No campaign is obviously being well-funded by the rich end of town and overseas-owned corporations (who rip huge profits out of this country but pay no tax!) What hope for Australia?

That old arguement is getting a bit tired. People who actually read Australia’s Constitution find very little detail about anything and this country is still pottering along okay.

I’m not optimistic, OME. A Referendum in this country has little chance without bipartisan support and the conservatives are in real wreck-it-all-costs mode. The sad reality is that heaps of voters are too lazy to do their homework, so they’re easily led by the cleverly-crafted No campaign.

They’e still at the stage the Catholic Church was centuries ago, when it burned alive the bloke who dared to translate the Latin Bible into English.

Good points NP. As you say, not all legends/myths are old; a few more recent events like WWII bombings have been passed down via corroboree. The most fascinating aspect is how many Australian myths appear to stem from verifiable events in the very distant past. It might be interesting to compare these with other continents to see which culture has a more reliable record of actual experiences. Our Old Peoples probably had far fewer upheavals than cultures in Eurasia, so perhaps more accurate stories. I have no doubt that some of the Hebrews’ Old Testament is derived from past events, but so heavily distorted, censored and manipulated over the eons that it’s of little use to historians.

Even the clever Japanese only have 6 stars, when Australia’s Old People knew there were seven.

During WWII the Allies gave up on assasinating Hitler, realising his stupid strategic mistakes was their greatest assett in Germany. The same may apply to Putin. The most likely factor to deter him from attending that SA conference is fear of a palace coup while he’s away.

What archaeological evidence is there for Exodus? I’ve read that there’s nothing about Hebrews or a slaves revolt in Egyptian records. All nations seem to create myths to justify invading other peoples’ land; Australians were raised on the fallacy that this land was empty and not owned by anyone. The Yanks justified repeatedly breaking treaties with the natives and their genocidal wars as “manifest destiny”. The Hebrews claimed god had promised them a land flowing with milk and honey… Until people stop believing religious zealots, there will never be peace; this is just one map being used to justify killing and maiming innocents:

So you think these people lived here for thousands of generations, but didn’t notice anything happen? That evidence was there all the time, but arrogant white fellas didn’t look. Presumably, they thought those primitive black fellas could contribute nothing to science. Here are a couple of places to start: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-32701311 https://careerswithstem.com.au/aboriginal-astronomy-about-the-seven-sisters-worlds-oldest-story/#gsc.tab=0

Appreciate Willedoo’s regular reports on that region and often use Google Earth to get an idea of the locations. No wonder Putin is upset about damage to his bridge; it’s an impressive structure and must have cost a big slice of Russia’s meagre public works budget.

Tonight’s doco showed how noxiously anti-fact SKY can get. “The Dark Emu Story” on ABC outlined the story of his famous book, as seen by many scholars and commentators. His critics were given plenty of airtime and one even sat down to talk with him. They disagree with how he has interpreted the evidence, but it seems the book contains lots of historically verifiable accounts that have sure upset the conservatives. That set off Murdoch’s attack dogs, leading a vicious campaign to discredit his decades of careful research. He’s an old man trying hard to make a positive difference to our country, but these low forms of life nearly broke him.

Time to re-post this classic:

The word “primitive” needs reviewing, having for too long been used by arrogant westerners to dismiss the ideas of peoples living closer to nature. We are slowly starting to gain new respect for many ideas that were formerly called primitive.