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Good news Marty, they've listened, and if you liked the deficits under Labor, your're going to love the macro deficits coming up.

I must check up on the team, which went round the entire coast of Australia several years ago, documenting extensive groin constructions, sea wall extensions, and massive erosion of localised geological formations.

I'm surprised at you Marty with Bogs being made from stream water......just downstream from Hobart.

This concept has been around for at least 40 years, but never seems to get off the ground. I'm not sure why, but the power return doesn't seem to be cost effective.

The UP part probably comes with the intense focus of early civilizations with the stars, and if you believe the alien theories, with people who "came from the stars in feathered serpents". Must admit I haven't studied the HELL bit. Is that a Christian belief, or does it go further back?

Geez Bex, I know we told you to hurry up, but we didn't mean you have to do your own mining!

You've probably got it about spot on nomad

I remember now Horsefeathers, I'm studying DNA, will get there but have two big projects and some face to face work on other matters to get out of the way first.

In which post? You'll have to forgive me, I've started to get used to the tactics being used on the engine threads.

Who on earth runs the bookstore in Quirindi? Don't you have television? Why this paraoia with murderer's?

Don, you're the funniest atheist I've ever come across. You quote the Bible so often that I've started to hesitate, waiting for you to say, at the end of your sermons, "Let us pray" You weaken your argument bringing in tooth fairies, abominable snowmen, Easter bunnies, Thor and Oden, or even Zeus, but I suppose everyone is entitled to his own collection. Being a good Believer, I have no objection whatsoever if you live your life obeying the laws of physics, although I suspect mankind hasn't finished writing those laws yet. As for the thetan's, I didn't watch that show.

That won't do you any harm at all Octave. After studying the information about Saul making up the Jesus Christ story, and the Roman Catholic Church making a dollar on it, I would caution about getting too sucked in by the Christ story. If he was born in 8 BC it's start is problematic for one thing, and it only seems to get worse. I've never been given a push in the back in the direction of a church or prayer book.

Reference? which christians said that? I'd say he has a front row seat in heaven personally.

Depends who you talk to, and I have talked to both sides here in Australia. The Israelis run a tough line, and if you recall the bomb blasts along the strategic military tunnel lines of the Palestinians recently, where years of military infrastructure were destroyed, you can see why. Ownership of the land has swapped between Jews and Muslims for a couple of thousand years or more. There is a Mosque built on the site of Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem which remains there by agreement between the two parties. So does the wailing wall. I was going to include the land grabs around the time of Jesus Christ and how the Crusaders took it back off the Muslims, who got it back a hundred or so years later. When you look at the tit for tat history it is immensely complex - way too complex for us to make a judgement on who's not playing the game.

https://grrc.goodwood.com/race/historic/28-5-litre-fiat-s76-runs-first-time-100-years

No Bex, in all the research I've done, I've never seen his name written Yamaha.

Yes, as a group they just haven't been reading the electorate at all. Every step has been further off the path. However, in Victoria, we are about to see a Little Fauss and Big Halsey act https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I61hU4SF1M with very little depth in a Cabinet where, before they have even been sworn in, the factions have knocked out some of the depth. I've never before seen the farm given away on election night. Added to that is a balance of power situation in the Victorian Upper House which will be just as frustrating as it has been to the Gillard/Abbott governments, where the incumbent finishes up with the blame. None of that will help though, unless the Federal coalition can get some momentum up, furstly by putting an end to the anti-people decisions. She wouldn't be the first great politician I've seen swept from power in a landslide.

We did find out a few hundred posts ago that the meaning of "virgin' in ancient times was "young girl" so there's no need to worry.

Give it time, I'm working, only got a few minutes at a time in breaks to read. It is interesting that you accuse me of not giving one cognizant argument that evolution does not happen, yet when I ask another atheist to prove there is no God, I'm given the Russell treatment. Just to refresh our memories Darwin never proved his theory of evolution of the species and nor has anyone else, but I do have an idea for an answer and I'm working on it.

I think some people are getting confused by the subtle difference in the use of the word "evolve". I didn't use it for this reason, even though it's commonly used for viruses. Evolve: Unfold, unroll, open out, set forth in order, give off (heat), develop by natural process, invent, imagine Evolution: Evolving, evolution of the species by development from earlier forms, extraction of root from any given power.

The God which is most familiar to us Bikky, the one I mentioned when going back and back in history.

I'm of the opinion that you've saved several lives with your sound advice, possibly a lot more. Making one person miserable to save the lives of others seems to be a pattern with God.

Plop, plop, plop Who's Bokur Haram

I'm working on it. Perhaps you can share with us this firm evidence.

Sounds like horse dung to me, since people who believed in God knew the moon and Jupiter were planets, knew about precession, and used henges to predict eclipses thousands of years before Galileo. You're as bad as Octave with his virus - the HIV virus is still the HIV virus. It may well be adapting just as we adapt, it may even be changing, as some of us are black, some are white, some have round eyes, but it's not going to turn into a fish, lizard or bird.