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It would be interesting to know if the Lithium is still there, and if not why it was removed and whether that caused the higher combustion chamber temperatures. http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?q=all&cid=53436750#ec http://sci-toys.com/scichem/jqp014/6093461.html http://www.chemfrog.com/chemical_info/482199/ http://www.molbase.com/en/search.html?search_keyword=lithium%20propane&paid_chemical&gclid=Cj0KEQjwspCgBRCiwOjBxeCcm-kBEiQAooz6t5PRWa6VbUu49kg_8RhOY073bGNgcDkqDBEpGo_P7GcaAu168P8HAQ

I was present in a mass webcast with one of the Guardians main environmental journalists around 2002 and he was pushing the global warming agenda then. Australia's advantage is that the CSIRO can task our own satellite to record our own data with great accuracy, so we actually know what is happening, where it is happening and at what rate. (When I say "we", I mean CSIRO who aren't doing a particularly good job of reporting back to the people who paid for the Satellite and monitoring staff.)

Well Graham was the person who worked at the CSIRO and coined the term "greenhouse effect" and went on to sit on the IPCC, and among other interesting things advise the US President of the day in conjunction with his US counterpart, and around 2000 he was able to clearly enunciate the results of tests including ice core sampling going back I think about 600,000 years, but as you say massive conflict occurred, agendas were run, and he left the CSIRO and the IPCC, and tragically the IPCC became infested by people who disgraced their scientific qualifications by deciding to touch up test results to get governments to take faster action, which then destroyed the credibility of IPCC, and today the static is so vast, that it's not worth even trying to find out the truth. However we do have a few facts: 1. The core samples give us the temperature figures for 600,000 years 2. The CSIRO has a satellite photographing the Antarctic Ice Melt 3. Your opinion agrees with others, that a rise in ocean temperature will cause sea level rise rather than ice melt around the artic and antarctic areas (and there are hundreds of sondes measuring water temp

An interesting story: When I was designing fork lift trucks we built a version with a Holden engine converted to run on Lithium Propane Gas (LPG) As gas conversions became popular in the automotive industry (before thousands of valves were burnt out), and Esso started developing Bass Strait gas fields, it became known as Liquid Petroleum Gas. As we know from our chemistry classes an element changes from a solid to a liquid and then to a gas with increasing temperatures so can have three names, such as ice, water and steam. To call a gas a liquid never made any sense to me, but I never bothered about it, but your comment prompted some research and this is what I found. Lithium Propane (3CH7Li) is sold by several overseas companies mainly Chinese as that description Elgas, in their simplified explanation for the general customer base say: Natural Gas is mainly Methane (CH4), and it contains (usually stripped out for sale as "Natural Gas"): Ethane Propane Butane Pentane Propane Gas (C3H8) boils at -42 degrees C and is pressurised in bottles/vessels (and from our chemistry we know that boiling point can be lowered as pressure is increased) in the bottle it is a liquid under pressure when released to atmosphere, boils becoming a gas Elgas describe the Propane product as a Liquified Petroleum Gas (LPG) The "LPG" tag is not used in the USA where it is marketed as Propane I'm not convinced by the "Petroleum" tag because petroleum according to Wikipedia was a greek name denoting rock oil, and today refers to products derived from crude oil (except for the gas sellers) so I suspect there is some oil industry ownership, or perceived marketing benefit in using "petroleum). So, where did the Lithium go? I ran out of time to see if there is a Lithium component around Natural Gas or Propane, but perhaps it was once added and has since been removed. An intriguing hint of this is that Lithium is used for treating some mental disorders.

Do you agree with Graham Pearman's work? What do you consider a more significant cause of sea level rise - Increased Ocean temperature, or Increased Ice melt. (These are not intended to be trick questions, just interested in your viewpoint)

OK dopey, I'll try again; that's what comes out of the supply pipe.

Well that's exactly what you did! Called us filth if I remember, so how about coming up with the facts, or did you just make it all up in the excitement of the moment?

Just did a survey of the equipment at home and at my neighbour's place bought from China. Generator - ran for 20 minutes then engine failure, repaired under warranty, ran for 5 minutes then engine failure - got money back, bought a Japanese Subaru generator for $1900.00 Drill Stand - paid about $300.00 can't use it on steel because the feed gears don't mesh correctly and it jumps into the metal - total write off Trolley Jack - lasted for about 10 jacking operations then seals failed, no parts unrepairable - total write off. Trolley Jack - much heavier this time - about four jacking operations, same problem - total write off. Engine Stand - bent sagged and waved within an inch of it's capacity, couldn't trust it to withstand strong spanner use - sold for scrap back to China. Chainsaw - About two hours work then the starter recoil system failed (plastic used where steel required. No parts, no warranty - total write off Chinese Spanners - virtually all failed Ferguson Tractor - 1955 Still working, almost no maintenance required Ferguson Tractor - 1967 Still working, " International B275 Tractor - 1956 Still, working, almost no maintenance Briggs and Stratton Engines - 1960's onward, all working except one with carby gummed up by contaminated fuel British and German steel tools - no maintenance required Sidchrome spanners - all still working So yes there is a message there.

You've got a nerve demanding answers when you can't provide answers yourself, or make a rational argument. The reason I water stock with potable drinking water is that is what is supplied in my area. Irrigation and stock water further out which for most of the country is still potable is usually supplied for about 1/10 the cost.

Not when your friends seem to number the active half of the Greens, and Labor Parties, slightly smaller Liberals, and than the environmental groups who seem to track down every thesis there is. I read as much as I can then oil up the chainsaw, put the winch on the 4WD, pack the guns and I'm off for the bush.

I wonder if experts actually sit down and do cost benefit analyses, or whether Cabinet just put it on the agenda and use their own collective wisdom. I keep hearing the Victorian desal plant go the go ahead because one member of cabinet said "But what if it doesn't rain again" which was used to write off further dam capacity.

Surprisingly in Victoria the community didn't raise any significant objections to a proposal to build a reserved area on the Mitchell River into a dam, but at the time Victoria was running out of water after a 12 year drought with no guarantee that it would break any time soon so the government opted for a massive Desal Plant.........and it rained. The most intriguing proposal for Victoria which the government rejected out of hand was a pipeline from the mountains in northern Tasmania where the river flow at an altitude which would allow a pump-free siphon was such that Melbourne would only consume about 3% of the flow. Today there is a North - South pipeline between Melbourne and the Goulburn River which could feed the Murray and the existing infrastructure for Adelaide. Australia has a MASSIVE amount of fresh water flowing out to sea from the ranges including those you mentioned. Ion Idriess travelled the Great Divide from Victoria to Queensland and even further into Far North Queensland and came up with a scheme to turn rivers inland. He wrote a book about it called "The Great Boomerang" When he wrote it the earthmoving equipment available had little more capacity than men with shovels, but there would be plenty of opportunities today.

I tend to speed read the emails from my sustainable friends and then quickly delete them, but I recall one study which reported that cell life may be shorter than the pay back point for a lot of systems.

What a pity he didn't get the free handouts from the bikini clad Metric Conversion Board maids.........it was only going to rise a hundred millimetres!

Thanks O.K., several newspaper stories which would be good to discuss. One thing which gets up my nose is the hundreds of years supply we have of natural gas in Bass Strait - more than we will ever use if the rate of human development remains consistent and we find ways to make solar power effective enough, and batteries light enough with enough range and life to suit our power needs within the next, say, 100 years. Australia, strategically has one of the most expensive costs for total transport trips in the world because of its large size and sparse population, and we could reduce transport costs on every single consumer item we buy, and develop multi billion dollar tourist niches, just by dumping Federal and State Taxes. Instead, Lithium Propane gas price for vehicles is pushed up as far as the market will bear - in fact above that since LP Gas power isn't really a viable option when you take into account maintenance costs.

They've already started FT with a massive purchase near Keith, SA, and there's a good chance the food is not going to McDonalds in Bordertown. Methusla Economics 1. No milk, can't earn a living from it. 2. If my sheep can't drink water they die, so no meat You could dig turnips for your food I suppose.

In Melbourne we've been through the "Well people are going to have to pay more for water and you should only use 155 Litres/day/person (Labor) or 130 litres winter and 170 litre summer (LNP" and "people are going to have to pay more for power" and landfill is evils so we must have smaller and smaller bins So I have to pay two levels higher than the standard water rates, or use part of my 155 limit to water all the sheep. I was given a smart meter so I bought an off peak water heater. The water heater uses the same power 24 hours a day, so that was a lie), to get off peak power from the smart meter to the water heater has cost me $300.00 so far, but.........the smart meter has no provision for off peak rates despite the advertising, and will require special fittings which are only available if like me you are an enquiring person. And landfills? we now have garbage bins 1/4 the size of what we used to. Toxic Waste which once was buried safely now has to be buried safely in favoured toxic tips, which means that small companies are dumping it on roadsides and larger companies are simply storing it throughout the cities in racks in their factories. So basic services to a large part of the community have increased maybe $2000.00 per year and it surprises me that there hasn't already been a big backlash. This is the market you would have to convince to pay substantially more for solar power, wind power and the other stuff you want to offload onto us one punch thugs and other filth. If there are some facts we are missing, let's hear them now, because I don't really think people are using 19th century fuel product by choice, so you might win some supporter, albeit if you accept that the only way you are ever going to drink milk again is to run faster that a wildcow.

You put up a good effort, and have out sympathy; sometimes dogs crap on your lawn, and it's better just to move on.

Bob I think quite a bit of Monash Uni runs on Linux; I'll ask

I agree; someone is going to become a billionaire coming up with a competitor for business/adults. Just to be able to put your key in the ignition without being asked do you really want to do this or finding for your convenience that this week you need to unscrew the left rear tyre valve, turn the headlights on twice and then hit the brake to start it wuld be good. Or you go to put the key in only to find the dash has changed overnight and no longer has a keyh0le, but has a pocket for carrying a single day old egg.

It's called an ATO (Authority To Operate), and ensures that within a few seconds an employer has written confirmation of an employees skill standard, so an either give him a job with an immediate start, no special supervision required, give him training, or employ someone who has the required qualifications. It's way better than asking someone if they can use a pencil sharpener (let's be more realistic and say Wood Chipper) and being told "Yeh mate, been doin it all me life" and coming back ten minutes later to find just a pair of legs left in the hopper. In this example, Queensland Transport know exactly the capabilities of the transport operator without leaving their office, much less taxpayers money spent than sending a patrol car to the dept, having a cup of coffee and spending an hour jawboning. https://www.support.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/formsdat.nsf/forms/QF4042/$file/F4042_ES.pdf Farming property owners are particularly vulnerable because of their high rate of accidents and the ATO is a huge step forward in risk reduction/insurance cost etc. If someone comes on to the property to cut down trees, and they have an ATO, there's no argument about safety. Don't do yourselves out of jobs just because you don't like change.

Click on your modem icon Click on tools Click on My Account; another window will come up Click on My Balance and you will see what $ are still available and how many megabits are still available it also shows the cost per Megabit For budgeting purposes I check the balance before work each day, and for the same work the usage is much the same; in my case about $8.00 per night, or around $2000.00 per year! When recharging I buy the biggest block and pay 1.46 cents per Megabit.

The thieves that concern me most now are the ones who run a video Advertisement the second you go onto their site.

It may have been updates. My daughter helpfully found out my wife hadn't updated her phone regularly, so downloaded all the updates, and we received a $200 bill from Telstra, for the use above the monthly allowance. They later withdrew this after accepting the cause. Better to update through the desk top, or once a month.

I'm a bit confused by your last post OME. Are you looking for work or just making social commentary. I assumed you were looking for a decent job and contacted a friend of mine who is a Director of one of Australia's lsrgest companies and in charge of their national parts distribution centres. He would know exactly what the employment situation was and contact names. We've missed each other a couple of times this week, but I need to lnow whether to ask for some help or not.