Bruce Tuncks

There was an old lady ( 80's) in the UK who was refused her regular bottle of sherry cos she didn't have "proof" that she was old enough to buy it. She had no passport or driver's license. What do you suggest Marty?

I like examples.... but I don't know of an example where news was twisted by the abc, so in the meantime I reckon its factual.

Thanks OME, I was referring to al Khwarizmi. Sorry about my poor spelling of arabic names

Thx guys. I still reckon that democracy is the only system worth fighting for, so I am certainly at odds with the islamists . There is a story about the first Chinese ship to visit east Africa, where they heard about Europe and decided it was too primitive to even visit. Funny huh how the Europeans returned to China ( after hundreds of years ) and found the place so primitive that they ruled for many years. It was the same with the arabs. I reckon what happened can be explained by the loss of religion in Europe with the reformation.

Here's one for OME, I think... Why were the arabs so clever in the days of al-kaswami but so silly these days? Apparently there are "schools" where the only book allowed is the koran.

Thanks, Nomad. I fear you are correct, but I would still like to just take a pill or 2 to lose weight. What about liposuction? Getting back to the "near death experiences", did you ever consider the evidence of the pattern-generator they put on top of the operating-theater lights. Operating theaters are a popular place to die, and near-death people often told how they could look down and watch the event of their death. This was taken by religious people as "proof " in the details of their religion. But NOT ONE of these told of the pattern correctly. I take this as proof that the "near death" religious experience is a bunch of nonsense. Obviously, the brain in its death -throes can come up with lots of stuff.

AND, there is a song from out of the 'fifties which blames " my two amigos, Nick Otine and Al Kahol"

Nomad, your posting is hard to disagree with, but why did you say "avoid weight-loss drugs"

How about this for an idea? We look up the best system in the world ( longest lifespan etc etc) and contract that lot to run our system? We would probably see the super-rich come out fighting, but they should lose the fight. I hope.

I reckon that democracy is a far stronger system than autocracy, and we are seeing a fair battle between the two right now. Nev is clearly correct about Hitler and the book-burning, gosh you wouldn't last long under Hitler if you disagreed with him on something fundamental.

Why do you use those things, jerry? I reckon I get by fine with just this site and emails. I must be missing something.

In the olden days, they used much smaller plates, but they all died young too.... I had 3 rellies die at 48! Personally, I blame 1: smoking and 2: poor diet even if the portion size was ok

Spacey, by "release to the public" do you mean " put on the Benefits List?

I'm trying with the plates etc Onetrack

Apparently Ozempic and Wegovy are the same drug, marketed to different audiences. Also, according to my exercise-nurse, they don't have long term effects and putting the weight back on is a problem for stoppers of the drug/s. Thx for the comments OME. My recollection is that the weight ( I am just over 100kg ) went on quickly after I stopped trying to keep it under 90kg. I blame my 70th birthday for this ..." threescore years and ten shalt be thy days "... the bible says. Well i sure outlived any male relative, my father died at 67 which i foolishly thought at the time was incredibly old.