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Solar and wind is the cheapest form of electricity but it also needs a lot of backup, extra transmission, storage and artificial inertia which makes the whole package expensive. Snowy 2 was quoted at $4B currently at $12B and they are talking $20B. I know a lot of you won't like the host(some of his views are a bit out there) but his guest has a pretty good explanation of what is really happening. it can be seen by those inside the industry as well.

As long as she is not doing anything illegal, good on her still. Large companys always push the boundrys. Qantas selling seats on flights that don't exist, com bank, woolies, coles. Put some CEO's in jail will fix it.

Yep and no need to rebuild the intermittents as nuclear comes on line.

The other choices are pretty crap though. As long as Gina isn't breaking the law good on her. She is obvously a smart woman who employs a lot of Australians. If people don't like how the system is set up, ring and email your politicians and try and get stuff changed. That is their job. They won't always answer but at least you can say you've tried. i was emailing one regarding one of the local roads which was OK. When I asked how much the disastrous H2 plant cost including the cost of the hydrogen department he stopped answering my emails, but at least I tried.

I would say its the main reason. If they were any good, she wouldn't get a look in.

The only reason this is even a discussion point is because of the poor performance of the alternatives.

Can she really be any worse then the alternatives!

I wander what country the international buyers will be from. More of a prime land falling in the hands of foreign investors.

The reason we are getting free electricity is because of grid mismanagement. Nothing is free. Are intermittents cheaper. As I have said before nobody anywhere in the world has attempted what Australia is trying to do. Germany has lost a lot of industry and they are interconnected to other country's that have reliable generation weather that be nuclear, gas or massive amounts of traditional hydro. Australia only has 8% traditional hydro. CSIRO won't release the data used for their modeling. Pretty sure the titanic would have had modeling. Parasitic intermittent generation are very cheap when they are running, but make other forms very expensive when they aren't by cutting back on available generation for the dispatchable generation. If you underutilise plant you make it very expensive. The ABC get it wrong and mislead more then they should for a national broadcaster. It is expected by the others as they are owned by people with agendas.

I can't think of anything really, the reason power prices have risen isn't because of renewables is one. The way they treat the various politicians is another thing that really ikes me. Like I said, I don't rate Sky either. The ABC aren't as bad as Sky, but sky aren't government funded either.

Don't get me wrong, I don't rate Sky either.

Similar to the ABC, but we all pay for that one

A couple more https://www.backstreetheroes.com/2023/07/14/project-hercules-2-75l-single-brag-your-bike/ and

Energy from the sun is a part of the logical choice. It depends on who you talk to.

South Australia as well?

And Sarah Hansen was not travelling overseas. Sounds like we paid for him to travel to work.

These people know they will be away from their family's before they take the jobs, just as ever FIFO miners does. It's a decision/ compromise they have to make.

They actually doctored the footage to mislead the public or do you believe it was a coincidence. This is one fight I hope trump wins and hopefully the public broadcasters learn from it.

There has been some asbestos found in the brake pads on the service lifts. we have received some safety alerts regarding this. Contained inside a sealed housing I believe. Actuators are used for the panels to follow the sun. Some of these have rods that control more than 1 panel.

I grew up on farm so am aware how good drought proofing is. Solar farms need to be set up to take stock under them as far as guarding around actuators, cable etc. I am just wandering how many developers are actually doing all the time, or just for the farms where the cameras frequent. The windfarm I worked gave all weather access to the top of a ridge, and has allowed fire fighter access. The road across the top also acted as a fire break for a fire caused by a header. We had to stop some turbines and apply the brakes to stop the rotors turning for the air tractors. The smoke from the fire had tripped some of The HV switch gear which meant some were not able to be braked.

How many solar farms are set up for agrivoltiacs?

No worse than trusting the ABC, see they have been caught up in a similar thing to the BBC.

You are correct, the transmission system is always being upgraded, but not the huge amount new transmission that is having to be built. As far as it not mattering if a solar farm is underutilised, the generation is a very small part. We have the transmission line that was built into a remote place at the place of the farm. The backup for the plant when its not running. The GT running at min gen for inertia , the tranmission size voltage regulators hanging of some of the poles/wires. Intermittents are the cheapest form of new electricity generation, it is just all the extras that makes it expensive.

Yep, Australia isn't Pakistan. The point I am making is the mount of spillage that is happening already in SA during high intermittent times and the amount of gas and coal(from Vic) that we are using when there is not much intermittent gen. The spillage is going to get worse as the amount of intermittent farms increase. Someone is going to have to pay for this. Have a look at how much the Max spot price for electricity has risen in the last 10 years. The price has gone from being variable with the demand to being volatile. This raises uncertainty with the retailers, so to cover themselves they bang the price up. https://wattclarity.com.au/other-resources/glossary/market-price-cap/

Yep and all the pacific islands were supposed to be under water by now. It is a serious situation, but Australia shutting itself down is going to make no difference. Maybe all these stop oil protesters need to head to China or India and blocking the roads over there to make some impact. China and India are pushing farwrd with NP as well as renewables. India is loading fuel into its first fast reactor. Fast reactors have the potential to use the long lived part of the spent fuel from light water reactors.https://theprint.in/science/india-is-building-a-500-mwe-reactor-thatll-breed-more-nuclear-fuel-that-itll-consume-how-it-works/2770409/ https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/fuel-loading-begins-at-indian-fast-breeder-reactor Bit of reading about importing woodchips to make electricty in UK https://www.greenpeace.org.uk/news/drax-subsidies/ https://ember-energy.org/latest-updates/the-uks-largest-single-source-of-co2-emissions-is-a-wood-burning-power-station/