Grumpy Old Nasho

It will be a Federal law if it's passed, it will affect everyone. The government is making everyone feel guilty. Like roadside breath testing, every motorist is guilty until the breath tester shows green zeros ... then you're right, you've been proven to be innocent. But highly suspicious of being guilty beforehand. No difference with a "hate" speech law. Everyone will be a suspect.

Help me out here - I live peacefully in the bush with my fellow traditional Aussies and I now feel partly responsible for the Islamic Bondi attack because the Labor Government is making me feel that way - I had nothing to do with the attack, but now my speech could be curtailed via proposed new speech laws. What have I (and we) done wrong? We are always guilty until proven innocent - it's about time that stopped.

Marie Bashir age 95 https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/nsw-s-first-female-governor-dame-marie-bashir-dies-at-95-20260120-p5nvmf

Perhaps recruit only lefty progressives, they'd fight more fiercely.

No one is interested in ex-service men these days. That's the very reason younger generations should be discouraged from joining the military.

This is why I asked the question: "What would you do and think if some other party/s were voted into government?" Only one poster gave an answer. Say the ALP and the Coalition lost to other parties. Would that in itself foment into a violent civil war in OZ? "Two-Party" system means just that, it doesn't mean the two parties have to always be the ALP and the Coalition.

The security agencies usually find them by searching the net for extremist posts. But if they don't post anything, they're invisible, and they can strike at any time without warning. The police will be issued with rifles now just in case, and that's how bad things have gotten.

When the right conditions are set to accommodate such crimes, the crimes will happen. The right conditions have been set for Islamic attacks too. Now we're getting our fair share of them. When will they stop? No one knows.

The Council is going to consult with the Jews about the bridge. There's no need to do that, I'm sure the Jewish community only want reassurance that they won't be attacked again. Knocking down the bridge won't stop that, hot-headed muslims have demonstrated in the past that they will attack in a variety of locations, in CBDs, in homes, in side streets, in service stations, and now on a foot bridge in a sea-side park. We haven't demolished CBDs, nor the other locations, so why demolish the bridge just to put one ethnic group at ease emotionally? The muslims are winning if we do that, they are causing division, and we are unwittingly being drawn into their snare. The fact is, the whole population needs to be reassured there'll be no more attacks, approximately 21 people of different ethnicities have been murdered by radical muslims in Australia so far, and over 40 injured. We should ask Israel for some tips on how to control a domestic muslim population given they have one themselves. Gun control will do very little because radical muslims use other types of weapons, knives, cars, and intended pipe bombs. And shutting down antisemitism won't stop 60% of the muslims wanting to get rid of the Jews, it's in their genetic makeup. If the bridge is reconstructed because of maintenance, fair enough, but it looks like a pretty strong concrete structure to me. Chances are the reinforcing was galvanized anyway, being by the sea, and it's only a foot bridge. Politics should not come into it at all. Any politics will only end up Islamic terrorists versus Western lifestyle and values, that's what it will boil down to, like the ruckus in Adelaide where a female muslim writer was banned from a writers guild meeting because of this sensitive time after Bondi, and her persistence of posting about Islam. The meeting was cancelled because the writers became divided, pros and cons to her being banned. Some wanted her reinstated, some not. Can you see clearly how we are letting ourselves become divided? When all the calls are for cohesion and being united. It's not going to work the way we're going on. Normally.you'd get rid of the problem, like you'd get rid of termites in your house frame. At the moment we have termites and the politicians are divided on how to flush them out. Stronger action is needed to deal with the problem, much stronger than the weak response they're providing now. Nothing shorter than more vigorous and intense vetting of immigrants is what's needed. The Universe won't collapse in on us if that is done, it can only be beneficial for a peaceful society, if we can ever achieve that. But why make it worse by being reluctant to rid our house of termites? In the current state of affairs, radical Islamists are the damaging termites.

The NSW Premier would prefer that the Bondi foot bridge be knocked down! How many times have we heard "We will never let terrorist attacks change us or divide us"? https://7news.com.au/news/chris-minns-makes-shocking-call-for-heritage-listed-bondi-footbridge-at-the-centre-of-alleged-terror-attack-c-21304192 Leave the bridge as it is, lets not cave in to anyone, or group.

The Government was immune from any criminality. That was the problem. Threatening us with a two year jail sentence was not a "democratic" act, it was a criminal act. We needed genuine legal representation to advise us about the unseen consequences of submitting to that threat. That threat caused duress and extreme anxiety among all law-abiding 20 yr/olds. I felt I was under duress for the whole two years, always feeling I'd be punished for slipping up. We got nothing for that two years, and that was another criminal act. A sane definition of "duress" .... not the Government's insane definition. duress | djʊˈrɛs, ˈdjʊərɪs | noun [mass noun] threats, violence, constraints, or other action used to coerce someone into doing something against their will or better judgement.• Law constraint illegally exercised to force someone to perform an act. • archaic forcible restraint or imprisonment. ↓ ↓ Resisting conscription - William White.

In Australia, there's been dozens of people shot and killed by police. There was one just the other day. Man armed with screwdriver, glass shards, and spray can, shot dead by police ... https://www.9news.com.au/national/man-shot-by-police-siege-nsw-central-coast/cc44f80e-f044-480b-9d1d-c5104fe1a774

You're conveniently forgetting ... the government threatened us with a two year jail sentence for non-compliance. If that doesn't constitute "duress", then what does?

Correcting your spelling there. I knew very little about solicitors then, if anything at all, at 20 years of age. None were assigned to us, we were just bullied into signing without any legal representation. This happened in Australia, but somehow you think that that was OK. However, not in the US, oh no, it's not allowed to happen there!

Funny you should say that, thanks for pointing that out. What it means is, the documents I had to sign when I was conscripted into the Army weren't valid either. I was under duress of a two year jail sentence. Had I used my noggin, I wouldn't have signed them.