Old Koreelah Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 What's the biggest threat to our children's future? Not climate change. Not China. Not Islam. Not the coming economic collapse. It's when our people don't even realise that for decades they've been manipulated by an insidious foreign master, who is so feared that nobody will challenge his excesses. -except this bloke, who is well-qualified to: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/06/democracy-overboard-rupert-murdochs-long-war-on-australian-politics Prepare for a furious response from the Murdoch media and their acolytes.
willedoo Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 It doesn't happen often, but I agree with Kev.
old man emu Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 Murdoch Media makes a mockery of "Freedom of the Press"
Marty_d Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 And yet whenever I say I only use ABC for serious and balanced news, everyone jumps down my throat saying they're left-wing radicals. I think Rupert and his ilk have managed to shift the "centre" quite a bit to the right and no one has noticed.
spacesailor Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 NO, WE WON'T ! The other people will do it, against our wishes. Bureaucrats & the upper class. You know the one's making the money !. spacesailor
Old Koreelah Posted September 8, 2019 Author Posted September 8, 2019 The other major issues which I quoted are still threats to our children's future, but there is little chance of us dealing with them if we remain uninformed and divided- which is a major aim of the evil empire.
facthunter Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 You can't fix anything if you are not truly informed about it's condition. . THEY keep facts hidden all the time, but we are told you only need secrecy if you have something to HIDE, when they want to look at OUR every move. . Nev
Bruce Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 There is hope if you consider this very forum: I get stuff here which is unpolluted by Murdoch or anybody else. As for the paper, I am weaning myself off it right now, helped by the last price hike to $1.90. My son thinks reading the paper is a funny old-fashioned thing to do in this age of the internet.
old man emu Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 I get two local free newspapers. Both are about 95% advertising; 3% "What's on?" and 2% "news". The best thing about them are the rubber bands holding them folded for throwing. The local paper where my mother and sister live (Gilgandra) contains much more readable material, and it only serves a population of under 10,000. I've just done a survey for the Roy Morgan organisation which contained pages pages of newspapers and magazine titles I was asked if I had read. I left pages and pages of answer spaces blank.
facthunter Posted September 9, 2019 Posted September 9, 2019 I stopped paying for newspapers in 1973. Don't miss them at all. There's one brand that seems to be available free in lot's of semi public places, perhaps to boost it's circulation figures. Even when it's free I don't read it. It's fatal to your intelligence and uses good trees. Nev
Marty_d Posted September 9, 2019 Posted September 9, 2019 Yes, if you're talking about the broadsheet that's free in Qantas lounges. Strangely, all the editorials in it seem to be stridently right-wing.
Cosmick Posted September 9, 2019 Posted September 9, 2019 There is hope if you consider this very forum: I get stuff here which is unpolluted by Murdoch or anybody else. As for the paper, I am weaning myself off it right now, helped by the last price hike to $1.90. My son thinks reading the paper is a funny old-fashioned thing to do in this age of the internet. I was a paper boy in the 60's, Brisbane Telegraph was 4 cents. Great times , just about everyone gave me a 5c piece. 25% tip. Then they went to 5c. So much for getting rich quick.
willedoo Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 I stopped paying for newspapers in 1973. Don't miss them at all. Probably a good decision, Nev. There's plenty of people around who will lie to you for free; no sense paying for it.
facthunter Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 Yes, you are paying them to indoctrinate you, and make you want to buy tomorrows edition. It's great getting the "monkey" off your back and save money at the same time. Nev
willedoo Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 We have two different free local newspapers, the type they chuck in your driveway, or you pick up at the local IGA on your way out. One is positive, informative and enjoyable. The other is very depressing, all doom and gloom. If they can find a bad story, they'll write it. Funny thing is, it's the same local district they represent, one glass half full, the other half empty. Amazing what a difference an editor makes.
willedoo Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 And yet whenever I say I only use ABC for serious and balanced news, everyone jumps down my throat saying they're left-wing radicals. I think Rupert and his ilk have managed to shift the "centre" quite a bit to the right and no one has noticed. Well Marty, thank god for those left wing radicals. I listen to the ABC local radio and they should be given a medal for their disaster response and management during the current bushfire emergency. No commercial station could come anywhere near what they have done. I'm proud that they're getting my tax dollars.
facthunter Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 IF the "other's can't make ridicule of it they don't run it. What they OMIT is as significant as what they PRINT. Is it the TRUTH or did you read it in the Murdoch press? Nev
Yenn Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 I used to read two newspapers, both incorrectly named. The Truth and The Times.
Old Koreelah Posted September 11, 2019 Author Posted September 11, 2019 The Soviets had two state newspapers, Pravda and Isvestia (Truth and News). The popular saying was "there's no truth in the news and there's no news in the truth."
facthunter Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 Truth is stranger than fiction. Publishing the truth hurts too many "influential' People and doesn't help their fortunes. and He who pays the Piper CALLS the tune. Money makes money.. You can BUY most things except integrity. Yes there's NO money in telling the truth, but you don't have to have such a perfect memory and burn books, Own newspapers. and hide stuff and buy or kill people to shut them up. Money is the root of ALL evil. Nev
Marty_d Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 I think the quote is "the LOVE of money is the root of all evil". Patently untrue, of course. Plenty of rapists, paedophiles and other scum out there who don't love money any more than anyone else.
Cosmick Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 I read the ABC News website but I don't bother with anything headed 'Analysis' or 'Opinion'.
willedoo Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 The Soviets had two state newspapers, Pravda and Isvestia (Truth and News). The popular saying was "there's no truth in the news and there's no news in the truth." Pravda is split into two different entities now days. Two half truths.
facthunter Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 Gatekeepers and rentseekers. Views for sale. Literally mind bending stuff. Nev
spacesailor Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 Thinking about the title of this thread. If China had a Bit more brain !. It could & should give Hong Kong, Independent rule as a Democracy. Also TAX them, to see if it could be a sustainable revenue earner. Imagine the revenue passing through Hong kong annually. spacesailor
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