Scotty from Marketing

[Marty_d]

and....

 

If you work in a hospital, with old people, with children, anywhere near an airport, or you drive people or goods that have been anywhere near an airport, or you work anywhere near quarantine facilities or essential food stores - we will bring you the jab to your workplace and give you government-paid leave if you get sick.  You will have it, or find a job in a different sector.

[Old Koreelah]

48 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

and....

 

If you work in a hospital, with old people, with children, anywhere near an airport, or you drive people or goods that have been anywhere near an airport, or you work anywhere near quarantine facilities or essential food stores - we will bring you the jab to your workplace and give you government-paid leave if you get sick.  You will have it, or find a job in a different sector.

My little sister is a nurse in a rural hospital; she and her colleagues still have not been offered the vaccine!

[Marty_d]

1 hour ago, Old Koreelah said:

My little sister is a nurse in a rural hospital; she and her colleagues still have not been offered the vaccine!

Pathetic isn't it.  Couldn't organise a root in a brothel.

[Yenn]

Scotty is sounding more and more like Trump.

He has pissed off some of his medical advisers with his suddenly changing their minds during a press gathering, without telling them.

He is the ultimate expert who knows how to handle any situation, or that is what he is trying to portray himself as. Instead he is a self promoting, unthinking fool.

[kgwilson]

Scotty keeps making promises to maintain his ratings but thinks he will be able to maintain that when those come to nothing and then answers every questing with another question or changes the focus entirely. Then when it all turns to custard he tries to find another subject to big note himself with. Covid came along and the bushfires failures, sports rorts, etc got pushed into the background. Parliamentary culture came to the fore when Covid looked like being managed only to rear its head again several times with various Ministers involved. Then a cabinet reshuffle to quieten that down only to be overshadowed with a complete vaccination rollout failure. The debacles keep mounting up but eventually the chickens will come home to roost. At least I hope they will. 

[willedoo]

Saw him on the post national cabinet press interview this afternoon and he looked rattled, or worried at least. He didn't seem to be his usual condescending, smirking self. Big covid problems in the gold standard Liberal state might be the problem. It doesn't fit the narrative; only Labor states are supposed to mishandle covid. I guess he's busy trying to think up more spin. Deny, divert and deflect. Time for more talking points, Scotty (with the mandatory background noddy, of course).

[facthunter]

Can't talk about the "GOLD Standard" Now. (at last). The coppers enforcing things in the Canterbury Liverpool Bankstown area won't go down well. Wasn't done at Bondi..Maybe Time wounds all HEELS eventually. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Well, I am going to defend SFM on this one thing: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/heavy-handed-prime-minister-backs-port-melbourne-pub-s-free-beer-for-jab-promotion-20210709-p58891.html

 

The Aussie Health standards commission or whatever they're called slapped a ban on a pub owner offering a free beer after someone gets vaccinated. Yeah - it isn't the healthiest thing on earth, and to be honest, if I were an anti-vaxxer, I wouldn't be tempted by it.. But, if it encouraged people to get the jab (or at least get the jab earlier), then with very few exceptions, that's has to be for the better overall health of the nation than saving some individuals (not everyone will take it up) from having a beer! And let's face it, most who would take it up would have a beer, anyway - so they have one more that week.

 

Was gob-smacked when I first read they were banning it... But, then, I recall working for a state's health and safety authority, and they were very nanny-state oriented...

 

 

[onetrack]

Our local Premier is floating the idea of offering a $50 or $100 Bunnings (hardware store) voucher for getting the jab. The problem is, Bunnings don't need any more money, they're already rolling in it with the COVID-19 restrictions.

Everyone is buying home improvement and home maintenance items, gardening equipment, chainsaws and pressure washers, while movement restrictions are on.

 

The money would be better off going to struggling owner-operated businesses, who have suffered the worst during the lockdowns.

However, the Premier is, to his credit, already handing out cash to those affected businesses, and it will cost the State $41M to provide that business assistance.

 

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-mark-mcgowan-floats-bunnings-incentive-to-encourage-australians-to-get-covid-vaccine-ng-b881925888z

 

Edited July 9, 2021 by onetrack

[spacesailor]

BUT

Those government gifts can,t be used now !. Due to these severe lockdown restictions.

We can not go out to eat, only One can shop, cannot have a Free beer.

Might as well have the covic WuFlue. then at least we will have the company of nurses in hospital !.

spacesailor

 

 

[Dax]

8 hours ago, onetrack said:

The money would be better off going to struggling owner-operated businesses, who have suffered the worst during the lockdowns.

Problem i small business don't donate to the political parties, any who do it's very small amount compared to the millions given by the big corporations.

[facthunter]

WA is a bit different Mining  Iron  ore boom has kept them afloat. Libs Nats nearly wiped out in last election. Kerry Stokes WA newspapers didn't do their magic..Nev. 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Well, it looks like SFM is up to his old tricks... https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/former-judge-labels-660-million-car-park-fund-corruption-20210721-p58bo3.html#comments

 

Basically, blatantly buying, or probably more accurately, rewarding votes. I suppose, I don't recall him saying he will govern for all Australians. Or maybe, it's the work of god he is embarking on? I can't quite tell. Whatever, it is a genuine marketing effort, which is why they call him SFM.

 

But lament not.. Australians voted in Tony Abbott, and then wondered wtf, he is really bad.. Aussies voted in SFM and are then complaining, completely predictably, about how he has stuffed up almost everythng he has touched... It's sometimes like the electorate (or the gerrymander) is masochistic.

 

The destruction to the 'reef is undeniable... But our government has decided to enlist the supporet of the most repulable countries to delay a Unesco ruling that the 'reef is in danger: https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/australia-set-to-delay-unesco-in-danger-ruling-for-great-barrier-reef-20210721-p58bkx.html

 

From the article:

"Australia’s amendment has been endorsed by delegates from Bahrain, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Ethiopia, Hungary, Mali, Nigeria, Oman, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Spain, St Kitts and Nevis, and Uganda."

 

Not one of the countries Australia claims to have close ties with..

 

God's work, I guess...

 

BTW, if the links are behind a paywall for you, try private mode on your browser.. i

 

I am not saying Labor are any better, BTW.. Once in power, it takes supremely strong leadership these days to reject the spoils of corruption. The democrats proved that when they went to bed with Howard.

Edited July 22, 2021 by Jerry_Atrick

[spacesailor]

WE Didn't vote in any ' Individual' ,

As the party say's, It's the party you vote for.

YAAAA !, bring back the opposing 'Socialist party' .

WHY  didn't those Ruling parties outlaw the minor parties as they did the Socialist party ?.

Then we could have a manageable ' voting paper'.

spacesailor

[Dax]

3 hours ago, spacesailor said:

WE Didn't vote in any ' Individual' ,

As the party say's, It's the party you vote for.

The Aus constitution states both senators and house of representatives, must be elected by direct vote, not preferential or by a party and there is no provision within the constitution that allows for political parties.

[spacesailor]

Please tell the party leaders !.

They remove those that people Voted for.

Even removed one whole party from office.

spacesailor

[Jerry_Atrick]

Most of us tap keys on here in some way shape or form either criticism of SFM and how useless he is as a leader/PM, as well as the LNP in general. But, come on, own up, who here would betray their LNP bias and vote for someone else (assuming someone has an LNP or LP/NP bias)?

 

It seems our common dislike for his government (I am *sure* he is a nice guy) is not shared by the majority of Aussies: https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/coalition-gains-on-pandemic-management-as-morrison-holds-ground-labor-vote-falls-20210823-p58lan.html

 

In most of the categories, it is LNP first and undecided second, with Labor quite a way off. No doubt, with that size of undecided, a decent chunk will probably go Labor's way, but given the gulf SFM and the LNP have over Labor, despite the complete F! Ups of SFM and his government, his marketing prowess seems to be working well for him.

 

What has happened to the Democrats - do they even still exist? Didn't seem to poll anything...

 

Guess apart from that, people are creatures of habits, but shows Labor has a long way to go to make up lost ground... Overeasy doesn't seem to have what it takes...

 

[Old Koreelah]

On 23/07/2021 at 3:59 PM, Dax said:

The Aus constitution states both senators and house of representatives, must be elected by direct vote…

It always intrigued me that nobody has challenged the Senate ballot paper. If you vote above the line, you are are not making a direct vote, but delegating a political party to chose your reps.

[onetrack]

Jerry, the Australian Democrats folded up in 2009 when their last solitary parliamentarian (David Winderlich) resigned his Democrat seat and sat as an Independent. Winderlich lost his seat in 2010.

 

The party was officially de-registered in 2016 when they couldn't find 500 members to retain registration. They reformed again in 2019 and got 0.2% of the vote at the last election.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Democrats

 

The Liberals regularly get re-elected simply because of the support of businesses and the media, and a constant failure by Labor to get organised and produce a worthy leader.

Strangely enough, since Federation, Australia has had more Labor Govts than Liberal Govts.

 

 

[Dax]

8 hours ago, Old Koreelah said:

It always intrigued me that nobody has challenged the Senate ballot paper.

Could be wrong but in the last century seem to remember reading about someone who challenged the federal voting for parties, he ended up in jail and wasn't heard from again.

 

The major parties always combine when their power base is threatened, so there is no hope of getting them out of power, unless a new party comes along that the people decide to follow and can't see that ever happening. The majority of people are just cloned ideologues who never change their vote, they fear change and the unknown terribly.

 

I haven't voted for a party for decades and never will, no independents then my vote becomes informal so no one gets it. As for Morrison, he's a radical fervent cultist from the fringe pentacostal church, no sense, no brain just a simple ideological program running through his empty head.

[Yenn]

Dax. You are so kind to SFM.

I just hope that the rest of the votng population is as kind.

Persinally I have voted Labor and Liberal and Country party over the years, but it will not be LNP unless they get rod of SFM, even though Labor seems to be doing all it can to not win an election.

[Dax]

35 minutes ago, Yenn said:

Labor seems to be doing all it can to not win an election.

I would never vote for a political party, they are corrupt by definition and approach. Voting for any party just empowers them more to make life more miserable for the people and better for their ideologies and corporate vested interests.

 

Labor are just the left wing of the controlling political party, they are on a downhill spiral and won't recover. They have no real leaders and the only way the libs are hanging on is that they have ideological control over the party in the form of god nutters, they all follow the cult, so always bow down to the most fervent and vocal, at the moment its the pentecosts and Morrison.

 

The problem with the political system is there's no difference between any of the parties, none have a clue and can only rely upon the past for direction. Main stream yahweh cults are struggling as their base and influence fall apart, as the true reality surrounding them is revealed and their veracity taking a big hit.

 

Morrisons cult faction hillsong may well be brought to task soon, their leader has been charged with perverting justice by hiding his paedophile father from the law. We may well see a can of worms open up, to me it seems illogical there wouldn't be more abuse within the that faction. They all follow the same pattern, clones get sucked in by some deranged psychopathic moron claiming they are preaching the word 🤣 and then they start abusing their flock. Their egos are so out of control, they think they are invulnerable and the abuse of the vulnerable easily sucked in, will give them more power and control.

 

There's not one faction of the cult that can claim to be free of abuse, suppression and sexism. Abuse is rife throughout the entire cult, muslim, christian or jew, they are all basket cases of abuse, suppression, elitism and of course major deception and never ending conflict and war.

Edited August 25, 2021 by Dax

[kgwilson]

I don't really know why Morrison got the title "Scotty from marketing" because he wasn't any good at that at all. In 1998 he became the director of the newly formed New Zealand Office of Tourism & Sport. He left under a cloud (well he was basically fired) in 2000 a year before his contract was up. At the time he claimed to be the creator of the highly successful 100% Pure NZ campaign but in fact had nothing to do with it. Then he was appointed Managing Director of Tourism Australia in 2004 overseeing the totally disastrous "Where the Bloody Hell are you" campaign & he was fired in 2006.

 

Politics is the only thing he has been any good at because he is a consummate greaseball, liar, ruthless operator & religious nut job happy clapper. Crikey he can't even get anyone to willingly shake his hand. The problem is we don't have anyone who can take his place. Half of his Minsters have involvement in various scandals & his main internal rival is close to being a neo nazi. Labors Albo has the charisma of a dead duck but he has no-one challenging him. 

 

Personally I wish that Penny Wong or Tania Plibeseck would put their hand up. They at least appear have some decent morals

[pmccarthy]

Scomo is definitely all BS and no delivery. I haven’t voted labor since Bob Hawke but will next time if Scomo is still there.

[Marty_d]

Penny would be my choice to lead Labor.  She strikes me as having an iron backbone as well as a brain.  Tanya's good but I get the feeling she's a bit too nice.