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It's a long way from the theory of Rutherford, Bohr, Plank and Einstein,and what ended up being the Manhattan Project. Even then some thought there might be an uncontrolled chain reaction. Nev

 

 

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And now " The shxx hits the fan" over the bullshxx of what we've been told about the download speed of NBN.

 

NBN can be faster than light "to the suppliers" who don't pass it on to the consumers, who should save their money & get free wi fi at the nearest shopping centre.

 

And at the community library.

 

spacesailor

 

 

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Just did the "speedtest.net" on Optus cable.Ping 209ms / Down 6.37mbps / up 0.39mbps

 

doesn't look as good as I thought it would be

 

spacesailor

As a comparison, I just did that test on my ADSL2 connection via 500 meters of crappy copper wire running up the driveway.

 

Download 15.00 Mbps, upload 0.62 Mbps.

 

Not sure if that's good or bad, but it's good enough for me. I hope the NBN stays right away from our area.

 

 

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Whats a megabyte? all I get is a few Kilerbytes.

 

I just got an ad from iiNet saying they can provide satellite internet. Will have to look into it.

 

 

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Whats a megabyte? all I get is a few Kilerbytes.I just got an ad from iiNet saying they can provide satellite internet. Will have to look into it.

I'm on iinet and quite happy with our service - fixed wireless NBN broadband - sometimes streaming Netflix on 2 screens and works perfectly most of the time.

 

Apparently a recent Choice article also rated iinet the best (and Telstra the worst).

 

 

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Just quicky?

 

If the NBN removes my (our) internet service, How do I (we) get our saved messages Saved.

 

or do we just kiss them good bye.

 

I have "dozens" in lots of folders, & I have tried to "cut&paste" them by Notebook.

 

very slow and laborious.

 

spacesailor

 

 

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And as an aside!.

 

My home phone has a "hearing loop" that connects to my hearing-aid, no such thing on any PC I've looked at.

 

So no home phone no communication,any more.

 

bludi industrial deafness

 

Looks like I'll be gone and forgotten when NBN cuts the copper cord of my world, So when it happens I'll nip down to the local library to get online to say my bye bye's

 

spacesailor

 

 

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And as an aside!.My home phone has a "hearing loop" that connects to my hearing-aid, no such thing on any PC I've looked at.

 

So no home phone no communication,any more.

 

bludi industrial deafness

 

Looks like I'll be gone and forgotten when NBN cuts the copper cord of my world, So when it happens I'll nip down to the local library to get online to say my bye bye's

 

spacesailor

Spacesailor, I don't know how your hearing loop works, but you still use the same phone handset on the NBN. The only difference is that the cord plugs into your modem instead of the Telstra plug.

 

So if the hearing loop is part of your phone and not integrated into the Telstra line itself, you should still be able to use it.

 

 

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If No NBN, whats the point of plugging anything into a pc.

 

I can't see any point of paying for NBN when they are going to use the existing cable, & not even doing a fresh installation.

 

Cut off the copper service Just to make a new installation on the OLD connection, They wouldn't even have to get out of their office,

 

spacesailor

 

 

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I have had the NBN connected now for around 2 months. I have to say my internet has been fantastic.

 

All the copper around our area is very poor and telstra wont replace it and telstra will tell you that. They just say they wont replace it until the NBN pay them to do it. My absolute best speed I ever got on ADSL2+ was 3.2mb but usually went from 300kb to 1.3mb was average and used to stop regularly. I am 5.5km from the exchange. The FTTN is what we get here...fibre to the node that is so basically its optical fibre to the node and then down the copper to here. It is the most cost efficient way to get faster speeds to the populous. Most people have not been educated about the system and how it works and there is a lot of crap floated around about what it is and what it cant do.

 

Some figures to ponder. from the node where it is 100mb you can basically be up to 300 mtrs from the node and still get almost 100mb speed anything further down the line you will get less. I am around 1km from the node and according to the performance charts I should be able to get around 25mb so I applied for 25mb and I get a pretty constant 23mb dload and 4.66 mb upload speed. To connect fibre to every home is waste of money..the resources in equipment and hardware to do so is stupid...you would be better off building infrastructure projects like roads and dams and water pipelines to farming areas.

 

25mb is way more than most need anyway. The only reason you want 100mb is if your running porn servers or multiple video streaming like a online doctor or something. I can run 2 netflix hd streams and a foxtel stream all while dloading as much software or watching youtube...or redtube if you prefer that and it never buffers. It is all limited by the throughput of the equipment in the exhcanges that is where any slowdowns or holdups are

 

You can not run a normal fax or eftpos terminal on the std NBN you need a special IP style connected unit it wont work becayse your telephone line now basically speaks a different language that what it always was. The hearing aid loop stuff will work exactly the same as it did before. It is connected on the customer side of the modem which is just done at audio frequencies. You dont need a new telephone handset as the 2wire port on the back of the modem is basically the same when it comes to standard voice audio

 

There is so much crap I hear people spewing out about the NBN its ridiculous.....technically that is.... as far as service goes then that is an entirely different matter..that is no different that bashing your head against a wall fighting telstra or your main telephone provider about connection issues etc or just bad technicians they employ because there isnt enough good techs around anymore. Everyone is blaming NBNco but its actually not them its the service provider

 

 

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Lucku you. My connection gets slower and slower. I don't want to change ISP, but it seems I will have to if I want to be able to download a video or make a photo book. I can't see the NBN ever getting here except by satellite and I am not sure if I am eligible to go satellite.

 

 

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Kyle.

 

you say your old copperline, "All the copper around our area is very poor and telstra wont replace it", yet it's still the same copper line from the node.

 

Did they actually replace the old copper wire to your door?.

 

My old phone & loop hearing-aid, you say just plugs into the old modem I have even thou it's "analog" but it's fax wont work.

 

Just doesn't add up!

 

spacesailor

 

 

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No they didnt replace to copper to my house. But the majority of the bad connections were on the exchange side of the node so that has now been replaced by the fibre. The copper between the node and me there are 4 pits and after rain then its a problem with all those clips they use. But at least 99% of the time my connection is great...the worst I have seen it drop to was 15mb dload speed. I just did a speedtest and its 6.10pm which is high usage time and the results are pretty good

 

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The reason why fax and eftpos wont work on the line now is that the data coming in on the copper is totally different that what it used to be. Think of it as it now speaks chinese instead of english so you old fax wont work anymore as it does not have a translator built in. You now hook your modem to that chinese language and it will translate the line for you and give you "english" at the 2 wire telephone port. Your hearing aid loop is made to just output audio frequencies that the modem now makes for you. I would think your loop interface would be connected to your home phone somehow. Did the telephone line hook into your loop box and then the telephone plugged into the loop box or does the telephone line plug into the phone and the loop box plugs into the handset ?

 

 

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kyle

 

The home phone is a complete unit, Phone,fax,answering machine & has the loop built into it, everybody tells me to "update" but it works so well, & I have a full carton of (paper) fax rolls in the cupboard, it's mains powered, so if we have a power cut, it has to be reset and our voice recorded for the answering message.

 

I did buy a set of GE hand (walkabout) phones but didn't like them, so they're thrown in a cupboard somewhere.

 

spacesailor

 

 

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When the time comes & they tell me, they're cutting my Internet/phone line.

 

I'm going to ask them to "remove their equipment & wires from my house",

 

twenty tears of Telstra phone wires swinging from the house but not connected to anything!, So Optus can also take their junk away too.

 

If more people told them to remove this OLD equipment it will cost them!. It also looks like the Optus box is connected into my power supply box, so that would need an electrician to disconnect it.

 

spacesailor

 

 

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