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[DonRamsay]

Same difference.

 

 

[DonRamsay]

I'd like the good rev to explain to me which of the 613 commandments in the Bible it is OK to ignore and which have to be obeyed. Yes, there are 613 not ten, there were never only 10. Could you imagine how heavy those stone tablets would have been? You'd think the old guy would have invented the iPad to save having to lug that much rock around.

 

 

[DonRamsay]

This thread needs a warning like the one they have on TV . . . "This thread is suitable for mature audiences".

 

I often wonder where they think they are going to find one of those.

 

 

[AVOCET]

Theres only two that count now .

 

Love the lord with all the heart .

 

Love thy neighbour as thyself . ( maybe thats the problem ,) we all hate ourselfs ! Dont we .

 

And hence , most hate god .

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Funniest thread in ages, I really should get back to work now though!

 

 

[eightyknots]

I'm afraid I'm with Daffyd on the subject of Intelligent Design. It is just codswallop and I refuse to even debate such a silly notion anymore. People walking with dinosaurs, denial of every piece of geological science possible. And spurious arguments that no person that follows scientific method could ever accept. Evidence be buggered, just give me the writings of a bunch of goat herders from a few thousand years BCE. No.

There are a number of pieces of evidence where human footprints and dino footprints are found in the same strata. Scroll down to near the bottom for a few examples:

 

http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/ooparts.htm

 

 

[rgmwa]

,without the pain, disease, hardship, death,, and sins of this world, in a perfect resurrected non-aging body with all needs taken care of by our heavenly father, in a new creation, where my believer relatives and friends gone before me , await me.

Hmmm. Sounds alright, but now I'm a bit worried that the endless perfection might eventually make me die of boredom. Is that possible, I wonder? Wouldn't I already be dead? But then, I suppose that boredom would be prohibited in a perfect world, wouldn't it, so I might be OK. On the other hand, it's probably an academic question. If the place is really only open to the believers as you say, then I'm going to struggle to get through the door. And even if I did, I doubt that any of my friends and relatives would be there anyway. Sorry for rambling on a bit. Just thinking out loud.

 

rgmwa

 

 

[Keenaviator]

Gospel MT 22:34-40

 

When the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees,

 

they gathered together, and one of them,

 

a scholar of the law tested him by asking,

 

"Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?"

 

He said to him,

 

"You shall love the Lord, your God,

 

with all your heart,

 

with all your soul,

 

and with all your mind.

 

This is the greatest and the first commandment.

 

The second is like it:

 

You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

 

The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments."

 

Love of God and neighbor is the glue that holds the Church together. Without love of God, the Church is just a club; without the love of neighbor, the Church is just a theological society.

 

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/site/article/love-and-the-lapsed/#ixzz3HLgp2hXJ

 

 

[Gnarly Gnu]

There are a number of pieces of evidence where human footprints and dino footprints are found in the same strata.

Don has apparently locked in his faith on this one and seems incurious about any scientific discoveries that may interfere. Exactly when dinosaurs disappeared is of no consequence to me except I would've liked to have tasted them. As it turns out very likely being too tasty was their problem. Now well known Paleontologists like Mary Schweitzer and others have found T-rex fossils (remains really) that smell rotten and still have fragments of flexible ligaments, soft tissue & marrow blood cells we can be 100% certain that particular critter certainly didn't kark it millions of years ago. Besides there are plenty of ancient artworks that depict what we now call dinosaurs, so all taken together I'd say yes - good evidence some of them were around when our human ancestors were.

 

 

[bexrbetter]

D As it turns out very likely being too tasty was their problem. Now well known Paleontologists like Mary Schweitzer and others have found T-rex fossils (remains really) that smell rotten and still have fragments of flexible ligaments, soft tissue & marrow blood cells we can be 100% certain that particular critter certainly didn't kark it millions of years ago.

You underestimate the power of nature as a keeper of freshness and remind you they find many millions of years old insects perfectly preserved.

 

“Dig That Garbage”

 

Excerpted from WORLD, April 1994

 

 

 

Pizza crusts, last week’s newspapers, dead batteries, rotten eggs, old diapers—ewww, gross! But archaeologist William Rathje, of the University of Arizona, in Tucson, really digs this stuff. He dug through layers of garbage in one of the world’s largest landfills, in New York City. Dr. Rathje and his students also have carefully sorted through 18,000 trash bags. “I was born to do this,” he says. “My sense of smell isn’t very good.”

 

 

 

His Garbage Project has found that many of our ideas about landfills are...well, rubbish. We may believe that trash in a landfill biodegrades, or breaks down, into a nice natural slop. But Rathje has seen hot dogs that are 40 years old and still look like hot dogs. He also has found dozens of newspapers that could still be read, even though they were printed in the 1950s.

 

 

 

Biodegradation in a landfill takes place very slowly. The idea of a landfill is to bury the garbage in a pit. Next comes a layer of soil to reduce odors and keep out animals. But much of the garbage is packed so tightly and kept so dry that very little can break down. As a result most landfills may end up preserving garbage instead of helping it rot.

 

 

 

People should recycle and reuse, Rathje says. “But the best way to reduce the amount of stuff we send to landfills is to generate less garbage in the first place.”

 

You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

A bit difficult, she's not built the same as me.

 

 

[rgmwa]

I'd like the good rev to explain to me which of the 613 commandments in the Bible it is OK to ignore and which have to be obeyed. Yes, there are 613 not ten, there were never only 10. Could you imagine how heavy those stone tablets would have been? You'd think the old guy would have invented the iPad to save having to lug that much rock around.

I always understood that there were originally 15 Commandments, but because Moses accidentally dropped one of the tablets on his way down the mountain, we only ever got to see ten. Now I find there are 613! This is the most educational thread I've read in ages.

 

rgmwa

 

 

[AVOCET]

I always understood that there were originally 15 Commandments, but because Moses accidentally dropped one of the tablets on his way down the mountain, we only ever got to see ten. Now I find there are 613! This is the most educational thread I've read in ages.rgmwa

10 comandments , the rest are precepts & observances ,

 

variois washings , and the such ,

 

Food prep , ect

 

 

[bexrbetter]

I always understood that there were originally 15 Commandments, but because Moses accidentally dropped one of the tablets on his way down the mountain, we only ever got to see ten.

'After the Ten Plagues, Moses led the Exodus of the Israelites out of Egypt and across the Red Sea, after which they based themselves at Mount Sinai, where Moses received the Ten Commandments. After 40 years of wandering in the desert, Moses died within sight of the Promised Land.'

 

The third tablet was actually a road map on how to get to the promised land, DOH!

 

I reckon it was intentional punishment from God for the 'Burning Bush' incident.

 

See according to Moses, God told him to "Lead the Israelites!" from behind the bush, I hear God actually said, using the quite common phrase for "piss off" back in those days; "Get out of Egypt will ya, I'm having a poo!".

 

 

[turboplanner]

I suppose it is around Halloween

 

 

[bexrbetter]

I suppose it is around Halloween

When everything is coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.

 

 

[Marty_d]

Damn you Bex, you got in before me with the female neighbour reference!

 

 

[Marty_d]

Don has apparently locked in his faith on this one and seems incurious about any scientific discoveries that may interfere. Exactly when dinosaurs disappeared is of no consequence to me except I would've liked to have tasted them. As it turns out very likely being too tasty was their problem. Now well known Paleontologists like Mary Schweitzer and others have found T-rex fossils (remains really) that smell rotten and still have fragments of flexible ligaments, soft tissue & marrow blood cells we can be 100% certain that particular critter certainly didn't kark it millions of years ago. Besides there are plenty of ancient artworks that depict what we now call dinosaurs, so all taken together I'd say yes - good evidence some of them were around when our human ancestors were.

Don't know where you get your scientific data Gnu. Here's an excerpt from the Smithsonian magazine about her discovery:

 

Young-earth creationists also see Schweitzer’s work as revolutionary, but in an entirely different way. They first seized upon Schweitzer’s work after she wrote an article for the popular science magazine Earth in 1997 about possible red blood cells in her dinosaur specimens. Creation magazine claimed that Schweitzer’s research was “powerful testimony against the whole idea of dinosaurs living millions of years ago. It speaks volumes for the Bible’s account of a recent creation.”

 

 

 

This drives Schweitzer crazy. Geologists have established that the Hell Creek Formation, where B. rex was found, is 68 million years old, and so are the bones buried in it. She’s horrified that some Christians accuse her of hiding the true meaning of her data. “They treat you really bad,” she says. “They twist your words and they manipulate your data.”

 

Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dinosaur-shocker-115306469/#JG1jhPX5mE1cWoww.99

 

 

[AVOCET]

She’s horrified that some Christians accuse her of hiding the true meaning of her data. “They treat you really bad,”she says. “They twist yourwords and they manipulateyour data.”

 

 

 

No way , they wouldnt do that !

 

 

[rankamateur]

I hear you Bex BUT if the catholic church spent every dollar they own in any one of those poverty hot beds, it would make no difference to the the level of poverty but surely would increase the inequity between the fat cats and the starving.

Yep Geoffreywh, Absolutely hilarious! You got it!

 

 

[rankamateur]

Thanks Eighty for the link, this one will do me!

 

France: Tools in Rock

 

Extensive quarrying was done near the city of Aixen -Provence, France between 1786 and 1788, to provide the large quantities of limestone needed for the rebuilding of the Palace of Justice. In the quarry from which the limestone was taken, the rock strata were separated from each other by layers of sand and clay, and by the time the workmen had removed 11 layers of rock they had found they had reached a depth of some 40 feet or 50 feet from the original level of the area.

 

Beneath the 11th layer of limestone they came to a bed of sand and began to remove it to get at the rock underneath. But in the sand they found the stumps of stone pillars and fragments of half worked rock, the same stone and rock that they themselves had been excavating. they dug further and found coins, the petrified wooden handles of hammers, and pieces of other petrified wooden tools. Finally they came to a large wooden board, seven or eight feet long and an inch thick. like the wooden tools, it had also been petrified into a form of agate and it had been broken into pieces. When the pieces were reassembled, the workmen saw before them a quarryman's board of exactly the same kind they themselves used, worn in just the same way as their own boards were, with rounded, wavy edges.

 

How a stonemason's yard equipped with the kind of tools used in France in the late18th century, had come to be buried 50 feet deep under layer of sand and limestone 300 million years old is a question even more vexing today than at the time of the original discovery. For we now know, thanks to advances in geological and anthropological dating, that such a thing is absolutely impossible. And yet it does seem to have happened.

 

 

[AVOCET]

Similar thing happened in a coal mine ,

 

They allegedly say that a stainless steel wood screw was un earthed from the coal face .. Who knows , not the first time that man has wipped him self of the face of the earth ????? With very little evidence remaining .

 

Mike

 

 

[pmccarthy]

A study once found that after several million years, the evidence of our civilisation would be porcelain toilet bowls. Presumably religious or ceremonial objects in a world wide culture.

 

 

[revsmith]

to all of you here

 

yes I'm real but a new member, have been flying my own wings for 34 yrs, but driving a computer for only a couple , so not a very good or fast typer.

 

the moniker "revsmith"was chosen by the missus for me for an other purpose in which she loves to do for stress relief(yeah I'm that hard to live with)

 

she's betsy Wesson in single action, so I'm not a reverend, just a believer and young earth creationist

 

. would love to answer all an find this forum fascinating in addition to flying knowladge. hey admin can I post a link to our pastors latest sermon an how? might answer a lot better then me. gotta go now an do some cattle work , see I'm a peasant by trade.

 

 

[fly_tornado]

sometimes I doubt that god has a plan revsmith, so much pain and suffering in the universe

 

If only you could get a sign from god.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7vq3AC6Ezo

 

 

[turboplanner]

Look, i whoelheartedly beleive your real and know betsy well and love doing cattle work