Atheist knowledge

[M61A1]

An atheist who doesn't know what religious people are doing, or why, the equating his made up description of what he didn't understand to fit the wrong part of an Abraham Limcoln quote - priceless!

Generally atheists know exactly what the religious people are doing and why the religious people believe they are doing it, we just can't understand why any adult, with the knowledge available to them in this day and age would be that mislead. It's like being in CTA , in a non-IFR aircraft, with a controller asking if you need assistance in zero visibility, and saying "no, I believe I'm just fine thanks".

 

We are supposed to have a secular government, but it is virtually impossible for some religious in a position of authority or government to govern without relying on their religious views, and that is just criminal. That goes from the prime minister, down to anyone responsible for making or helping make legislation on behalf of the people.

 

 

[turboplanner]

Another one with no idea.

 

 

[M61A1]

Wasted too much of my life involved heavily in the stuff. You can only see clearly once you take the blinkers off.

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Another one with no idea.

Oh really.

 

I have seen a man run flat out head first into a wall intentionally with dire results, I don't know why he did it but that does not in anyway prevent me from making a judgement that his actions were ridiculous.

 

I take the same view of religion. I do not need to understand why a person would pray to a mythical entity that has been brainwashed into their head since birth to know that it's ridiculous.

 

I never went to church in my life until my Uncle's wedding at about 15 years old - and the only "Good Word" that was spread in my household growing up was, well lets just say I thought my name was "Jesus Bloody Christ" there for a while, and apparently "God" "stiffened" a lot of "bloody crows".

 

.... and gee whiz, I don't believe in any of the nonsense, funny about that.

 

 

[turboplanner]

It's a free world; amuse away!

 

 

[Marty_d]

Should be an interesting Q&A in about 10 minutes time.

 

On it are two people with planet-sized brains... Prof. Brian Cox, rock-star physicist, and Lily Serna, mathematician (and HOT - see the SBS show Letters and Numbers).

 

In order to balance out the brainpower problem they've provided a One Nation senator.

 

 

[dutchroll]

Oh the One Nation senator is the self-educated science sceptic Malcolm Roberts who wants the Royal Commission into climate science! Yes he's going to debate science with Professor Brian Cox. Advanced Fellow in Particle Physics and Astronomy. Over 100 scientific publications in 2015 alone (let alone other years). Works at the Large Hadron Collider. But what would he know about the topic of physics and planetary sciences?

 

Oh lololololol!

 

 

[Marty_d]

Oh the One Nation senator is the self-educated science sceptic Malcolm Roberts who wants the Royal Commission into climate science! Yes he's going to debate science with Professor Brian Cox.

Oh lololololol!

I know. It's gold.

 

Here we go... Brian is on song. Malcolm is struggling. Brian's brought out the graph. Game over.

 

 

[Marty_d]

I have a new low opinion of One Nation voters. You idiots, what have you done.

 

 

[dutchroll]

No....no.....the graph is faked. NASA has deliberately corrupted the data. All the world's scientific agencies and academies have corrupted the data. As Brian Cox said to the learned One Nation Senator: "so all the world's science agencies corrupted the data and accidentally arrived at the same conclusion?"

 

 

[Marty_d]

Greg Hunt trying to not to answer how many CSIRO scientists lost their jobs. I think he needs a mathematician to help him out. Come on Lily...

 

 

[dutchroll]

Malcolm (One Nation): "only 0.3% of climate scientists agree that the climate is warming"

 

Professor Brian Cox: .....bursts out laughing.

 

There's no way of responding to that. This guy (Malcolm Roberts) is living in a fantasy world.

 

Ooops sorry. I just realised not only that this is off-topic, but also that by admitting to watching the ABC (I rarely do but Cox is a highly respected scientist and very good communicator) I have identified myself as a raving left wing loon....possibly even a communist.

 

 

[Marty_d]

Oh, a winner... Linda Burney just telling Malcolm Roberts "Oh, just be quiet!" as he tries to interrupt Brian Cox...

 

Brian Cox: "I just came from Canberra this morning, it didn't cease to exist when I left it..."

 

No, but the combined IQ dropped dramatically!

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Wrong thread Marty, oh the irony.

 

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[Marty_d]

Wrong thread Marty, oh the irony.

Well, Brian Cox is an atheist, and he's got a hell of a lot of knowledge.

 

Actually, let me restate that in his own words...

 

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[Yenn]

Generally I can understand what the posters on this forum mean when they write. What I cannot understand is what one person wrote commenting about my post. It was just unintelligable to me, but I think he may be a believer. Does that explain anything? Can someone explain what post 3325 actually meant.

 

 

[M61A1]

Generally I can understand what the posters on this forum mean when they write. What I cannot understand is what one person wrote commenting about my post. It was just unintelligable to me, but I think he may be a believer. Does that explain anything? Can someone explain what post 3325 actually meant.

From what I gather, Turbs is trying to tell atheists that they have no idea why the religious people do what they do, and that he feels that your ad-lib version of Abe Lincoln's quote about fooling people is not relevant.

 

Problem is that a lot of atheist have been religious and know exactly what they are doing, but looking from the outside in, you can see how ridiculous it really is, and from that viewpoint it(worshipping an imaginary being) makes no sense at all.

 

If it did no harm and involved only consenting adults, there would be no argument against it, but it is harmful and involves children.

 

 

[bexrbetter]

, but it is harmful and involves children.

Are you referring to religion or priests .....

 

Turbs is trying to tell atheists that they have no idea why the religious people do what they do,

Yes, but it doesn't matter, the whole concept is ridiculous and doesn't need to be explained further.

 

 

[M61A1]

Are you referring to religion or priests .....

 

 

 

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Religion in general, but my experience involves Christianity. Nothing to do with priests and sexual abuse, just the way they mould a child's ( and adults) behaviour through fear an guilt. That stuff sticks with you for years after you think you got rid of it.

 

 

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The whole premise is that awful and heinous things are going to happen to you if you don't conform to their religious views and pray to their god.

 

That's a pretty disgraceful way to communicate with a child.

 

 

[Gnarly Gnu]

 

... from 5 minutes.

 

 

[Bikky]

No amount of charisma, smooth talk and cheesy humour can compensate for the total lack of evidence for the existence of a god.

 

Belief is not proof of anything. I can't believe I watched that!

 

 

[Gnarly Gnu]

Haha.... another humourless atheist. He is dead right, you folks have way more faith than Christians!

 

Mark is a superb singer this might cheer you:

 

 

(Mark wrote this song)

 

 

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But....he's not actually all that funny. Billy Connolly, he's funny. For the veterans among us, Dave Allen. He's bloody funny. The Two Ronnies, now that's funny.

 

This guy tries in a weird sort of way and is mildly amusing in parts, but he loses it when he makes silly and misguided anti-evolutionary arguments like the old "order from chaos" chestnut and the "shake the components of a watch for 6 billion years and they still won't assemble themselves into a watch" (duh, no kidding?). All he shows is a complete misunderstanding of the topic and his audience laugh along with him because they misunderstand it too and are none the wiser!

 

 

[bexrbetter]

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