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[octave]

Would it? The water would displace the atmosphere which would then have to `spread out' due to the increased circumference of the earth, consequently reducing in height to maintain the same volume, resulting in reduced density and pressure at the water surface.rgmwa

mmmm you could be right, might have to research that one, this is what I love about science.

 

 

[fly_tornado]

or you could ask Jesus

 

 

[nomadpete]

Flood?

 

Floods?

 

Pity that the floods, the multitudes of great floods around the planet, generally didn't happen all at the same time, or it would prove one of the good book's stories. But there I go, trusting in proof instead of belief. It works for my thought processes anyway.

 

Come to think of it, if I was going to engineer a great flood for the purpose of killing off most of the human plague, and then realised that I had failed to supply this planet with enough water to do the job, the only logical option is to run a lot of big floods sequentially. That would explain things .

 

 

[facthunter]

You would increase the circumference by an insignificant amount by raising the water 5 miles. The depth of the atmosphere above the new sea level would not substantially change, but all of the water that magically appeared would change the mass of the earth significantly throwing it into a new orbit, and causing all manner of unforseen consequences. Nev

 

 

[skeptic36]

Why bother dreaming about wether the flood was scientifically possible. If you want to believe God made everything in six days in the first place, then you won't have a problem with him whipping up a bit more water in a hurry then making it go away again

 

 

[rgmwa]

mmmm you could be right, might have to research that one, this is what I love about science.

Well, it's only a theory so I could be wrong. If you don't like that one, I've got plenty more :)

 

rgmwa

 

 

[facthunter]

6 days could be 6 Eons. I could believe THAT but getting $#! t loads of water from nowhere, when the earth is pretty much a closed system is not on. I reckon on the seventh day HE took a rest. and that EON isn't over..Nev

 

 

[octave]

You would increase the circumference by an insignificant amount by raising the water 5 miles. The depth of the atmosphere above the new sea level would not substantially change, but all of the water that magically appeared would change the mass of the earth significantly throwing it into a new orbit, and causing all manner of unforseen consequences. Nev

 

Quite interesting, I did come accross this : http://www.holysmoke.org/cretins/fludmath.htm

 

Further, Mount Everest extends through 2/3 of the Earth's atmosphere. Since two forms of matter can't occupy the same space, we have an additional problem with the atmosphere. Its current boundary marks the point at which gasses of the atmosphere can escape the Earth's gravitational field. Even allowing for partial dissolving of the atmosphere into our huge ocean, we'd lose the vast majority of our atmosphere as it is raised some 5.155 km higher by the rising flood waters; and it boils off into space.

 

Yet, we still have a quite thick and nicely breathable atmosphere. In fact, ice cores from Antarctica (as well as deep-sea sediment cores) which can be geochemically tested for paleoatmospheric constituents and relative gas ratios; and these records extend well back into the Pleistocene, far more than the supposed 4,000 YBP flood event. Strange that this major loss of atmosphere, atmospheric fractionation (lighter gasses (oxygen, nitrogen, fluorine, neon, etc.) would have boiled off first in the flood-water rising scenario, enriching what remained with heavier gasses (argon, krypton, xenon, radon, etc.)), and massive extinctions from such global upheavals are totally unevidenced in these cores.

 

 

[AVOCET]

6 days could be 6 Eons. I could believe THAT but getting $#! t loads of water from nowhere, when the earth is pretty much a closed system is not on. I reckon on the seventh day HE took a rest. and that EON isn't over..Nev

 

Hebrew : Day = yom , a period of time

 

6 periods of time .

 

Also the bible gives a specific time when the heavens ie . atmosphere was MIST that covered the whole earth , then the heavens opened up and it rained , flood .

 

After it stopped the rainbow appeared ,

 

 

[fly_tornado]

[fly_tornado]

[facthunter]

All the stuff in the sea wouldn't be affected either except they might get over fed with all the dead bad people. Fish and stuff like that don't get drowned. It's an implausible yarn. Nev

 

 

[bexrbetter]

And now here's some local news: http://www.astronomy.pomona.edu/archeo/aborigines/flood.htm

"Wang, who was a star, stole fire from the heavens once more, ....."

 

Bloody Chinese, even getting in on Dreamtime.

 

Noah's flood as high as Everest 29000 ft, did they carry oxygen? hypoxia?

You blokes stop bring facts into an otherwise interesting discussion thanks.

 

Jesus must be the Christ...

Middle name "Bloody" according to my Father.

 

 

[fly_tornado]

just a reminder BEx

 

 

 

[AVOCET]

2 Peter: chapter 2 ............

 

Ill leave it at that ,this time around ,

 

Its been a hoot , but the real world beckons , as im sure it does for most of us ,

 

Last one out close the door .

 

Over and out

 

Mike

 

 

[facthunter]

Peter, Pedro The Rock.. What no Rainbow Serpents? THEY are really scary when you upset them. Nev

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Is that what heaven is really like?

 

There were two lovers, who were really into spiritualism and reincarnation. They vowed that if either died, the other one remaining would try to contact the partner in the other world exactly 30 days after their death. Unfortunately, a few weeks later, the young man died in a car accident.

 

True to her word, his sweetheart tried to contact him in the spirit world exactly 30 days later. At the seance, she called out, "Bruce, Bruce, this is Shazza. Do you hear me?" A ghostly voice answered her, "Yeah Shazza, this is Bruce. I can hear ya." Shazza tearfully asked, "Bruce, what is it like where you are?" "It's awesome. There are blue skies, a soft breeze, sunshine most of the time."

 

"What do you do all day?" asked Shazza. "Well, Shazza, we get up before sunrise, eat some good breakfast, and there's nothing but shagging until noon. After lunch, we nap until two and then shag again until about five. After dinner, we go at it again until we fall asleep about 11 p.m."

 

Shazza was somewhat shocked. "Is that what heaven really is like?" "Heaven? I'm not in heaven, Shazza, I'm a rabbit in outback NSW."

 

 

[nomadpete]

C'mon guys, we gotta keep this thread going just a little while longer.

 

I just want to know if I can win the prize for being making the one thousandth post !

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

...God has blessed Africa with the greatest natural resources of all the continents on earth. It is fabulously wealthy and the lifestyle of people living there should exceed that of the USA, Europe and other wealthy western or middle eastern countries. Yet due to sin and corruption a large percentage of Africans are dirt poor and suffering. I don't see this as God's fault at all...

Good grief, GG! I can accept and even envy your faith, but cannot tolerate your ignorance. Please do some research about why Africa is so poor and disorganised. You may be correct about the pervasive corruption, but seem woefully ignorant of the damage done by arrogant white men in that blighted continent.

 

There was enough violence and injustice there before, but Europeans and Arabs have sure made it worse. Destruction of ancient civilisations, wholesale removal of people from their lands, redrawing of borders and introduction of the worst of western habits were largely justified by the arrogant belief that Christian white men could "save" the African. Some of the worst genocide our world has seen happened in Africa and was perpetrated by white men.

 

...Many, many people from the west have and are helping them yet due largely to corruption, violence and apathy only a little improvement has been seen...

The commendable work of Aid Agencies is dwarfed by the enormous manipulation of African economies by foreign governments and financiers. The luckiest countries are those which do NOT grow the raw materials or have oil or minerals we need.

 

 

[bexrbetter]

C'mon guys, we gotta keep this thread going just a little while longer.I just want to know if I can win the prize for being making the one thousandth post !

That's the best reason yet for this thread's existence!

 

 

[skeptic36]

Update! there really is a God.

 

My daughter has just ditched the loser she was using instead of a proper boyfriend. Ahhh my prayers have been answered, it was starting to look like he was going to be my son-in-law phew!

 

 

[rgmwa]

Bob Hope was relating to his audience how he was once travelling on an aircraft, when the engines started misfiring. There were some anxious looks as the passengers listened to the faltering engines and the plane started to descend. The white-faced passenger beside him started praying. Bob said, " I was feeling very anxious too, and thought I should do something religious .... so I took up a collection!"

 

rgmwa

 

 

[fly_tornado]

we should broaden this thread to judge people by their actions

 

scientist or christian

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

That bloke displayed faith!

 

 

[turboplanner]

This thread has been difficult but at least we know who the devil is.