turboplanner Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 The atheists who wrote that rubbish, and confirmed they didn't really understand what atheism is.
Marty_d Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 The atheists who wrote that rubbish, and confirmed they didn't really understand what atheism is. Why are you so keen to nail non-believers into a narrow definition? People are complex beasts.
turboplanner Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Why all these defensive posts about people who invoke God when they say they are atheists. I smell a little self doubt.
octave Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Why all these defensive posts about people who invoke God when they say they are atheists.I smell a little self doubt. Not just defensive, just pointing out the logical flaw. The atheists who wrote that rubbish, and confirmed they didn't really understand what atheism is. It is hard to comment without knowing which comments you are referring to, an example would be great.
turboplanner Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 For goodness sake Octave, I haven't quoted from the internet, just read the posts in this thread!
octave Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 For goodness sake Octave, I haven't quoted from the internet, just read the posts in this thread! Turbo what you see as rubbish I might not, without knowing what you are referring to within this thread how could I comment.
facthunter Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Atheists hating god is one of the most silly statements I've heard. Totally defies LOGIC. ALL atheists are different as independents in the parliament are. There is no Independents Party and there is no Church of atheism. Atheism is not a religion and never will be . Nev
turboplanner Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Atheists hating god is one of the most silly statements I've heard. Totally defies LOGIC. Totally agree, that's what I've been trying to get across.
Bikky Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Totally agree, that's what I've been trying to get across. Perhaps it would be good to be specific and determine which non-atheist atheists you are referring to. A non-believer is just that. No more, no less. Give us an example please.
facthunter Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 A vagrant was someone with no visible means of support.. an atheist is someone with no invisible means of support. Nev
bexrbetter Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 The or some? I hope that's not a badly spelt offer there Bikky .....
Bikky Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 He he! Aah Bex ... "the or some" and you saw the word threesome? Freud could explain this is if he were alive!
planet471 Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Amazing - two threads that really get the conversation started on recflying - jabirus & atheism/religion!
facthunter Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Lots of conversation but not much changing of attitudes as a result.. Nev
nomadpete Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I've changed my attitude ! I would never have believed that this thread would be heading toward two thousand (circular) posts ! At last we have something more polarising than the great Jab debate.
Marty_d Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I've changed my attitude ! I would never have believed that this thread would be heading toward two thousand (circular) posts ! At last we have something more polarising than the great Jab debate. Everyone needs somewhere to have philosoph... er, solve the big questio... er... talk sh1t.
bexrbetter Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I would never have believed that this thread would be heading toward two thousand (circular) posts ! You need a new monitor, the posts are rectangular in shape.
kasper Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Over 1,500 posts and given the division between aethiests and those of a religious persuasion are and remain in the class of unfalsifiable claims I just ask ... Where's the flying spaghetti monster when you need him?
nomadpete Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 I think I've got a idea to solve the Jab 'problem' ...... which some BELIEVE exists, and others don't....... I'll put a fish sticker on the back of all the Jabs that I see. Then we'll get statistical proof of Theist intervention AND a solution to the Jab uncertainty. To hedge my bets, maybe I should also put a THOR sticker on them too.
turboplanner Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Over 1,500 posts and given the division between aethiests and those of a religious persuasion are and remain in the class of unfalsifiable claims I just ask ... Where's the flying spaghetti monster when you need him? Not sure what you mean, but only a few believe that their belief is the only correct one, and any others shouldn't be tolerated.
kasper Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Not sure what you mean, but only a few believe that their belief is the only correct one, and any others shouldn't be tolerated. My goodness - my understanding of seveal of the major religions is that belief in their version as the only true one IS the central tenant. But what I meant was to call on the Flying Spaghetti Monster (other deiety and beliefs are available and equally as provable) to bring peace and good will at this end of year. Enjoy your break from work if you're having one.
facthunter Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 IF you are really comfortable with your chosen god, why do you need to kill those who don't believe in the one you do. I reckon I'd walk around with the biggest smile and just feel sorry for the less enlightened/ notchosen/un lucky, poor bastards who are really going to do badly later. Nev
DonRamsay Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 . . . but only a few believe that their belief is the only correct one, and any others shouldn't be tolerated. They all believe that they are the only correct one and Islam is totally intolerant. Many Muslims do tolerate other faiths and the three Abrahamic faiths of Islam, Judaeism and Christianity lived peacefully together in Southern Spain until the Catholics put an end to that. Even though many Muslims are enlightened and tolerant, their religion, Islam is not. It demands conversion or death of infidels. It demands execution of anyone who chooses to step away from Islam and most of us on here have written more than enough to be sentenced to death for blasphemy. In countries that are ruled under Sharia Law, tolerance is not an aspect of the culture. I wonder how tolerant Christians would be if they ruled with the absolute power they had for many centuries? Would we see executions for blasphemy that only ceased in the UK in the 18th Century? Left to the Bible Belt in the USA, that is not out of the question. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition is a way of life for those wackos. Incidentally, for those who doubt Evolution as a Scientific theory, you will no doubt be delighted to know that the UK has banned teaching of creationism as Science. At the same time in the USA, the bible loonies are trying to get a law passed in Missouri that would require schools to notify parents that evolution theory was going to be taught on a particular day. God fearing yanks would not want their children exposed to that sort of science porno.
Marty_d Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 They all believe that they are the only correct one and Islam is totally intolerant. Many Muslims do tolerate other faiths and the three Abrahamic faiths of Islam, Judaeism and Christianity lived peacefully together in Southern Spain until the Catholics put an end to that. Even though many Muslims are enlightened and tolerant, their religion, Islam is not. It demands conversion or death of infidels. It demands execution of anyone who chooses to step away from Islam and most of us on here have written more than enough to be sentenced to death for blasphemy. In countries that are ruled under Sharia Law, tolerance is not an aspect of the culture. I wonder how tolerant Christians would be if they ruled with the absolute power they had for many centuries? Would we see executions for blasphemy that only ceased in the UK in the 18th Century? Left to the Bible Belt in the USA, that is not out of the question. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition is a way of life for those wackos. Incidentally, for those who doubt Evolution as a Scientific theory, you will no doubt be delighted to know that the UK has banned teaching of creationism as Science. At the same time in the USA, the bible loonies are trying to get a law passed in Missouri that would require schools to notify parents that evolution theory was going to be taught on a particular day. God fearing yanks would not want their children exposed to that sort of science porno. My thoughts exactly - the only reason christianity is tolerant these days is because of the separation of church and state. It certainly wasn't tolerant when it had secular power as well as religious, you wouldn't want to be an atheist in the Middle Ages for example. Normal people whether religious or not are generally tolerant and for the most part good. It's only when the wackos get power and try to force their views on the populace that it goes bad. Which is exactly why everyone of sense needs to fight to retain a clear and total separation of church and state.
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