Old Koreelah Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The genuine ones would much rather be working. Goodness me, the pensions are minimal... Agreed Nev, but I know of people brought up during the Depression who live so frugally that the pension is more than adequate. When my own parents went on the pension after a lifetime as small farmers they were far better off. The killer factor is cost of housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 new premier Love the white tee shirt behind her. Spelling is not quite right though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Yeah I remember that, we have been at the mercy of idiots. Not much has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Maybe it is an opinion but based on real life experiences. When you are in a group and one person claims they are on the pension and advises others they should do the same and nobody has a disability the writing is on the wall. I find it unbelievable that you have gone through life and and not seen this stuff, there are many who openly admit they just don't want to work. There are so many scammers on those pensions that people with a genuine problem cannot get it. This part is wrong. " Most people hate getting on these "pensions" If you know someone getting a disability pension when they're not disabled, naturally you have reported them? Here's the link - https://www.centrelink.gov.au/wps/portal/clk_common/TORS#stay Or give them a call on 13 15 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Yep, Fairfax media = tax cheats. Paid less than 16% last year. Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox pays 1 per cent tax. Source: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-29/a-third-of-top-australian-companies-pay-less-than-10pc-tax/5775870 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The people of Queensland have voted for a better way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 - and no doubt they well get it! Ooooh Anna Pizzachook give us more of the new way! So how much tax does Australia's biggest media organisation the ABC pay then Marty? Oh, that's right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I doubt that Springborg will be able to rally the troops, even if there where a few by-elections in the next 3 years, the LNP needs Katter to rule and Katter has no policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 who do i have to kill? a neighbour or a relative, either is possible Yourself. Just trying be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 - and no doubt they well get it! Ooooh Anna Pizzachook give us more of the new way! So how much tax does Australia's biggest media organisation the ABC pay then Marty? Oh, that's right... How much tax do you think a government organisation should pay, Gnu? Perhaps if they made a profit... it would go back to the government anyway. Dammit! Those sneaky buggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy2shoes Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The tax system explained in beer. On oldy but this is where we're heading. The people getting there beer for free or hugely subsidised now out numbering the people paying for it and voting with there very thirsty mouths. Something's gotta break [ATTACH]47545._xfImport[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Doesn't make any sense because when the richest guy leaves everyone move up the scale. Technically, its a good model for income distribution works to benefit the poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Something's gotta break [ATTACH=full]34086[/ATTACH] I think it already has, some compare us to basket case countries and say we are fine but that is a load of BS. Some recon because S&P give us a AAA rating things are just dandy, more BS, that will continue right up until it stops. Economic trends form slowly and they build momentum and they can be almost impossible to stop let alone turn around. Eventually you get to a point where austerity does more harm than good, I call that the point of no return when you have dug a hole so deep you cannot get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 So we aren't too sure what going on in QLD at the moment, Lawrence thinks he's the Premier but Bob Katter hasn't chosen the front bench yet and we don't know where his boy Robbie wants to go. Labor going to Governor General to put the LNP out of their misery tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The tax system explained in beer.On oldy but this is where we're heading. The people getting there beer for free or hugely subsidised now out numbering the people paying for it and voting with there very thirsty mouths. Something's gotta break [ATTACH=full]34086[/ATTACH] I've seen this bit of neo-con propaganda before. It ignores the fact that the richest man is only rich because all the others buy his products / services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I think it already has, some compare us to basket case countries and say we are fine but that is a load of BS. Some recon because S&P give us a AAA rating things are just dandy, more BS, that will continue right up until it stops. Economic trends form slowly and they build momentum and they can be almost impossible to stop let alone turn around. Eventually you get to a point where austerity does more harm than good, I call that the point of no return when you have dug a hole so deep you cannot get out. You're a hard person to please Teckair. We're number 2 in the world by highest Human Development Index (HDI). We have that triple A rating. We have a way of life that in my mind is second to none. Yes we have to fight to maintain that way of life, and that includes holding the idealogical fanatics of the far right at bay. John Howard presided over the government during a time of unprecedented boom, and he p*ssed it all away. If the LNP at that stage had've started a mining super profits tax and a proper sovereign wealth fund, we wouldn't even be talking about this manufactured "crisis" now. But of course, he couldn't, because according to conservative dogma you can't have governments making money, that privilege only exists for donors. Now the LNP revisionists ignore the GFC and Labor's role in keeping this country afloat during it, instead claiming that Labor wasted billions. What gall it must take to ignore your own party's total fiscal incompetence and blame it all on the opposition. I'm actually pleased that Abbott avoided the spill... in terms of instant gratification it would have been nice to see him rolled, but let's face it, he's the biggest asset that Labor has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 You're a funny chap Marty! Be sure to sober up before you fly next, reckon that's some industrial strength stuff you got hold of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 You're not really the best one to be giving us economic philosophy Marty, you stuffed your apple industry, stuffed your timber industry, couldn't even sell onions, and now us mainlanders have to subsidise the way of life you are boasting about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikky Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 You did all that yourself Marty? One man on his own destroyed a state's economy! Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The apple industry died because the EEC (The worlds biggest trade cartel that united diverse nations under a common currency and is now having a real problem with that) mean the the UK stopped buying stuff from the colonies. By the way the Egyptian economy was smaller than that of Tasmania then. Attack the messenger still happening here. No? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 You're not really the best one to be giving us economic philosophy Marty, you stuffed your apple industry, stuffed your timber industry, couldn't even sell onions, and now us mainlanders have to subsidise the way of life you are boasting about. Yep, it was all me. I'm a one-man wrecking ball for the Tassie state economy. (Keep thinking it's a basket case, we wouldn't want to be overrun with mainlanders moving here...) Actually when it came to way of life I was talking about all of Australia, hope you're not going to blame me for the "woes" of the whole country! You're a funny chap Marty! Be sure to sober up before you fly next, reckon that's some industrial strength stuff you got hold of. Thanks for the advice Gnu, at least my more ridiculous ideas disappear when I'm sober. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 ............and that brings up the question of why you haven't been successful selling your beer. Perhaps if you hadn't based the main ingredient on one of the byproducts of the dairying industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 ............and that brings up the question of why you haven't been successful selling your beer. Perhaps if you hadn't based the main ingredient on one of the byproducts of the dairying industry. Now I'm really confused. I don't sell my beer, I only make it for myself. Or if I really don't like someone I might give them a case. But I don't use dairy products in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 ............and that brings up the question of why you haven't been successful selling your beer. Perhaps if you hadn't based the main ingredient on one of the byproducts of the dairying industry. turbs ??? Unless I've mis-interpreted your post, I'd have given you more credit. Care to explain if this was just a jibe that bombed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Is BS a dairy byproduct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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