What's happening with CANZUK

[old man emu]

8 hours ago, Dax said:

Proper moderation controls would soon weed out the morons

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes—”Who will guard the guards?”

 

[Dax]

6 hours ago, old man emu said:

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes—”Who will guard the guards?”

The people, you have to start somewhere and there are some honest people on the planet, but you won't find many in authority. Understand everyone is locked into clinging to the past and extremely fearful of political change, which means we are going nowhere but down and faster every day. 

 

Things like free trade agreements only benefit the corporate world and rich elitists, never the people. If it benefited the people life would be so much better, but as long as everyone is happy to do nothing, then we have to put up with the consequences of our lack of responsibility in life and that doesn't look like being a positive thing in any way.

[onetrack]

Moderators are the problem with Dax's idea. Who appoints the Moderators, and who limits their powers to exclude people? Faceless people on the internet, controlling our lives, just what we need ..........oh, wait ..........

[Dax]

1 hour ago, onetrack said:

Moderators are the problem with Dax's idea. Who appoints the Moderators, and who limits their powers to exclude people? Faceless people on the internet, controlling our lives, just what we need ..........oh, wait ..........

I agree with that, but know a number of forums that function pretty well with good moderators, this one seems to work well with little moderating, which to me is a sign that done the right way it would work. In the first instance, those setting up the forum would select moderators and then give the people the right to dismiss and moderate the moderators once it was up and running properly. But if you had strict rules and stuck with them it would work.

 

Would expect those starting this sort of political journey, would be those who wanted it to work and agreed with the approach and initial start up policies. I have faith in the reasoning of the people, they couldn't be any worse that what we have now and when people realised their decisions would have a huge effect on everybodies lives, think you'd find they would act accordingly.

 

Of course there would be the normal number of repressive and argumentative morons with only negative agenda's, but again they could be easily controlled with proper moderation and when joining, they would have to sign an agreement to stick to the rules, or be dismissed for the forum. You could only join if you are on the  electoral roll and have to prove it, so if they stuff up, then can be taken to task and can't remain anonymous. You'd have to have a limit on policy discussion, so that voting could happen without it dragging on as it does now within the current and bizarre system that can take years to get things done.

 

The politicians in Tas are now pushing to increase the lower house members of parliament from 25 to 35, because they say they can't get a majority with just 25 and can't handle the work load. Not that long ago they dropped the number from 35 to 25 because they claimed they couldn't get a majority for one party and it would make parliament less cumbersome. Which shows how stupid they are and only want to increase numbers thinking more politicians will get more of their party elected.

 

They are to stupid to realise they have the majority problem because the people are getting more and more pissed off with their total incompetence and they changed elections from 3 years to 4 years for the same reason, hoping the extra year would save them from being thrown out of office. Neither of those idiotic ploys have worked and never will, just costs us more money and adds more problems.

[old man emu]

3 hours ago, onetrack said:

Moderators are the problem with Dax's idea. Who appoints the Moderators, and who limits their powers to exclude people? Faceless people on the internet, controlling our lives, just what we need ..........oh, wait ..........

THIS POST HAS BEEN MODERATED.

It was a lot worse when first posted.

[nomadpete]

Dax, you have more faith in human beings than I.

 

Just watching how many of the punters are treating the covid pandemic with selfish contempt.

 

I'd wait until AI puts the Pollies out of a job. Computers are more dispassionate and therefore more logical when it comes to decision making. Until we ban humans from holding the reins of power, the system (s) will remain corrupt.

[nomadpete]

If facelessbook is anything to go by, moderators cannot control mass disinformation.

[old man emu]

3 hours ago, nomadpete said:

mass disinformation.

It's only disinformation if your side didn't produce it.

[old man emu]

On 03/09/2021 at 8:21 AM, Jerry_Atrick said:

I am not sure how much actual boots on the ground support the idea is getting

There seems to be growing support in the UK, NZ and Canada    https://www.canzukinternational.com/latestnews  

Of course, here in Australia all attention is focused on what really counts - Football Finals. 

 

The Roman Emperors kept the plebeians out of politics by giving them bread and games. Having disposed of the idea of a single omnipotent ruler, our political leaders still use the bread and games technique. Twenty-eight cent per day pension increase is a lot of dough, and building massive sports arenas gives a place for games.

 

CANZUK and AUKUS have been ditched off the front pages to be replaced by the effects of cocaine usage on Premiership results.