God help America

[onetrack]

I like Nikki Haleys comment about the U.S. Senate being the "most privileged nursing home in the country" - even though I don't particularly like Nikki Haley, and what she stands for.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/01/nikki-haley-us-senate-mitch-mcconnell-nursing-home

[Jerry_Atrick]

He grew a set of gonads after the mob was finally cleared that came to lynch him... Liz stood up to him all the way...

Edited September 1, 2023 by Jerry_Atrick

[facthunter]

By showing GUTS HE put his life at risk. The Noose was for him.   He refused to do what Trump demanded of him. Lil Donny doesn't abide that .  He's used to getting HIS way. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

I don't think it dawned on him the lengths Donny was prepared to go until he couldn't back out. But, to be fair, I am guessing not many people would have guessed what happened that day was actually going to happen.

Edited September 2, 2023 by Jerry_Atrick

[old man emu]

Trumpism is spreading across the World. There was a similar attempt to storm the Reichstag in Germany by Right Wing elements, and currently the Alternative for Germany (German: Alternative für Deutschland, AfD) is a right-wing populist political party in Germany. AfD is known for its Euroscepticism, as well as for opposing immigration to Germany.

 

The AfD is broadly considered to be a right-wing and national-conservative movement in both socioeconomic and sociocultural terms. AfD's policy brief and mission statement seeks to define the party as both liberal and conservative, with an emphasis on protecting sovereignty, Western identity, and German culture in what it calls a "peaceful, democratic and sovereign nation-state of the German people."

[Bruce Tuncks]

I wish the left-leaning parties would be tougher on immigration so these loonies get starved of oxygen.

As far as Australia is concerned, I would like the immigration numbers to be decided by referendum. AND I would like Australia to be no 1 in the world for anti-corruption.

[facthunter]

We USED to be much better. The land of the" fair go". With Morescum it was a SIN to be down and on hard times even if it was because you fell off a ladder, or had a stroke.. . .  Nev

[Bruce Tuncks]

I reckon we thought we were much better but I'm not sure now, after knowing lots more about "holes" in our teaching, like the coniston massacre and the darwin bombings. Not to mention the governor-general, sir william slim.

We sure had more common-sense and tolerance though, we tolerated homosexuals for example, well the decent ones anyway.

[Old Koreelah]

On 3/9/2023 at 6:41 AM, Jerry_Atrick said:

I don't think it dawned on him the lengths Donny was prepared to go until he couldn't back out. But, to be fair, I am guessing not many people would have guessed what happened that day was actually going to happen.

You reckon?

[onetrack]

Another huge mass shooting in Maine, just another day in gun-crazy America. At least 22 killed, the number is bound to be bigger in the final tally. 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-26/active-shooter-in-maine-us-lewiston/103025928

[facthunter]

Never stops does it? Why is anyone allowed Military assault type weapons? I think I'll go over there and upgrade to "Uncle  SAMS". Do you think that might catch on? and build them in a quiet suburb I will call GRENADA.   Nev

[spacesailor]

Those guns were nearly all exmilitry , starting from the early flintlock " civil war " , ww1 " bolt action "  , ww2 automatic.  

But why kill each other. 

Like overcrowded rats, that get aggressive,  then kill each other .

spacesailor

[willedoo]

6 hours ago, facthunter said:

Never stops does it? Why is anyone allowed Military assault type weapons?

The biggest problem with the mass shootings in regard to numbers of victims is just two things - the fact they are semi-automatic and the use of large capacity detachable magazines of which they can carry several on their person.

[red750]

If you want to know exactly how dumb and insular Americans are, check out this link.

 

Cringe American posts.

[facthunter]

I've seen some Australian ones that are not a lot better. Nev

[nomadpete]

Yes, it is a case of cherry picking.

 

However, there are worrying statistics -

Half of the US of A people voted for Trumpet. And a large % still believe he is worthy of leading their country.

 

Don't  get me checking the stats on believers of literal translation of the  bible.

[facthunter]

Well there's 100 million pentecostals. Nev

[spenaroo]

 

best gun talk I've heard - shows the issue 

 

Edited October 27, 2023 by spenaroo

[Jerry_Atrick]

Although Abbott and Morrison are no Trump, I bet they wish they were.. And, regardless of what side of politics one falls into, Australia voted each of them in.. they weren't appointed by the party in an overthrow to lose the next election.

 

And even in the last election, the LNP (yes, two parties, but since they generally don't contest seats, for all intents and purposes, one party) gained the majority oif the primary vote, as SFM leading and the same brazen nut jobs at the top of the party..

 

At least in the US, the popular vote was against Trump even in 2016; the gerrymander got him in.

Edited October 27, 2023 by Jerry_Atrick

[old man emu]

3 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Australia voted each of them in.

The difference between the appointment of a Leader in Australia and the USA is that here we vote for the representative for our electorate. Then we tally up the number of electorates each Party has won. The mob with the most electorates forms government. Then that mob meet at their clubhouse and pick a leader, who is a person who has been chosen to enter parliament by his electorate.

 

In the USA they have a weird system where the people only indirectly elect the president and vice president. The president and vice president of the United States are elected by the Electoral College, which consists of 538 electors from the fifty states and Washington, D.C. How those members of the Electoral College vote is highly subject to political pressure to make sure that the electors vote for their own Party's candidate.

 

Also, the POTUS does not take part in the process of debating and forming legislation as does our Prime Minister, who has the same voting power in the House as does the newest Cross-bencher.

[onetrack]

The American Govt system is dead simple. They get together and count up who raised the biggest amount of election money, and the one who raised the most money, is the winner, and he gets to sit in the Big Seat!! No woman has ever managed to win yet, they must spend too much of their money on clothes and shoes and handbags, and there's not enough left over, to match the blokes money-raising!!

[Jerry_Atrick]

5 hours ago, old man emu said:

The difference between the appointment of a Leader in Australia and the USA is that here we vote for the representative for our electorate.

That is largely a theoretical difference; most people vote for the party they are conditioned to vote for, or the leadership and policy of the party - not the individual MP. Few would even know much, of anything about their local candidates unless they are senior in the government opposition benches. Of course, where tthey are so repulsed by their party, they will rarely vote for the polar opposite party, but eother select an independent or minor party.

 

6 hours ago, old man emu said:

How those members of the Electoral College vote is highly subject to political pressure to make sure that the electors vote for their own Party's candidate.

Not quite. The political parties largely select their nominees for electors; the voters determine who the electors are: https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/electors

 

 

[old man emu]

2 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

The political parties largely select their nominees for electors; the voters determine who the electors are

Choosing each State's electors is a two-part process. The first part of the process is controlled by the political parties in each State. Political parties often choose individuals for the slate to recognize their service and dedication to that political party. This first part of the process results in each Presidential candidate having their own unique list of potential electors.

 

That sounds a bit like how we select our candidates for each electorate, although it is supposed to be the local Party branch that makes the nomination of the candidate, not Party HQ (of Prime Minister as has been known)

 

The second part of the process happens during the general election. When the voters in each State cast votes for the Presidential candidate of their choice, they are voting to select their State's electors. The winning Presidential candidate's list of electors is appointed as the State's electors, where their vote determines that State's nomination for President. Although the electors are tied to a particular Party, they are free to vote for another person. Such a revolt leads to political and social exile.

 

In comparison, we elect a person to represent or corner of the Nation. That person goes to Parliament, and if the person is not an Independent, then the person joins the other elected members of the Party to choose their leader. If the Party has gained the most seats, then its leader is the Prime Minister. If it came in second, its leader is the Leader of the Opposition. The also-rans just get to have a leader/spokesperson.

[red750]

Piers Morgan was interviewing Mike Johnson, the person nominated by the GOP as the House Speaker.

Johnson said America had banned Kinder Surprise, because the little toys inside killed children. But they couldn't ban guns, because England now had a king, and he would try and take America back. FFS!

[nomadpete]

What conceit!

 

What makes him think it is worth taking back?