God help America

[nomadpete]

Is it unusual, but through 3 marriages (& a couple of nonmarriages) I have always got along well with my in-laws?

[Old Koreelah]

2 hours ago, nomadpete said:

Is it unusual, but through 3 marriages (& a couple of nonmarriages) I have always got along well with my in-laws?

…but not their daughter?

[Jerry_Atrick]

I get on with the parents-in-law just fine.. But the siblings in law are, well, let's say people I wouldn't normally spend time with.

 

[nomadpete]

9 hours ago, Old Koreelah said:

…but not their daughter?

 

Wellll,

I confess, I am a slow learner. But I really DO get along with the current one!

 

I've managed for the last 20 years without argument. It's still early days - the honeymoon phase hasn't worn off and I'm still wearing my rose coloured glasses.

[nomadpete]

But having said that, swmbo claims that when she was born, they brought home the wrong baby - and judging by her siblings, she might be right!

[Bruce Tuncks]

I have it on good authority that gamblers are worse than alcoholics. A very rich bookie was being interviewed on his retirement, and the junior interviewer asked him his opinion of gamblers. He fixed the interviewer with a glare, and asked him did he really want his true opinion...the stupid tv man said "yes".

"I would rather see my daughter go down the aisle with an alcoholic than with a gambler" the bookie said.

[red750]

 

 

[Bruce Tuncks]

I'm not really surprised at the stuff on congress etc. The difference is that the church claims to be moral and to be everlastingly correct in all important matters. Yes, this is an impossibly high standard, but those few churchmen I have known have personally been ok....  One guy was a homosexual, but he never forced himself on anybody and so he was morally ok in my book.

( I hasten to say that I'm not religious at all myself )

[facthunter]

The bigoted self righteous  give the good  ones a bad name, and there's more kiddie fiddlers than there should be.  Nev

[Old Koreelah]

[red750]

It's hard to figure America out. On one hand you have the religious zealots who run everything by "the Book", then you have the TV shows about polygamy and polyandry - "Seeking Sister Wives" about the Brown family and his four wives, and "Brother Husbands" about a woman and her two husbands Chad and Jeremy, and all their offspring. What the ????

[Old Koreelah]

The whole nation has been raised on the idea of “Religious Freedom” so any nutter can have a vision and start his own religion which might allow lots of wives.

That well-known Prophet in Arabia apparently had a number of visions, each one telling him he could add a few more wives.

 

What America (and the rest of the world) needs more than anything is Freedom FROM Religion.

[facthunter]

You wouldn't get a leg in with the Primaries running as an. atheist. Gimme that  Old time Religion It's good enough for me.   Nev

[old man emu]

Many practise a religion. Few get it right.

[Marty_d]

Freedom from religion is equally important as freedom of religion. 

State schools definitely no place for it. Philosophy yes, ethics yes, even comparative religion overview, but definitely not specific instruction given by non-teaching staff.

[nomadpete]

3 hours ago, old man emu said:

Many practise a religion. Few get it right.

Ya mean, like a doctor's practice?

[nomadpete]

3 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

Freedom from religion is equally important as freedom of religion. 

State schools definitely no place for it. Philosophy yes, ethics yes, even comparative religion overview, but definitely not specific instruction given by non-teaching staff.

When I was a child (some might say I am still .....), I changed religion quite often. Depending on which friends I wanted to talk to during primary school RE. Nobody important ever cared which denomination each child really inherited.

 

Religion should be prohibited from schools (and from governments) because the children can't fully grasp the implications or the concepts being 'taught'.

 

Seems a problem in all nations.

[spacesailor]

The Christians Are allowed to change their religion. 

BUT

The other's will ' stone you to death ' for Looking at another cult .

spacesailor

[Old Koreelah]

1 hour ago, spacesailor said:

The Christians Are allowed to change their religion. 

BUT

The other's will ' stone you to death ' for Looking at another cult .

spacesailor

Spacey there are supposedly Christian sects which are bluddy hard to leave.

The JWs is one known to impose unnatural punishment on anyone who leaves.

[spacesailor]

Excommunication  !

And disbarring from family.

You Can live with it.

But   Stoning is a little more ,  Deadly  .

spacesailor

[facthunter]

Who has been stoned to death in Australia ever?  You will find stoned people coming out of clubs at closing time though being a bit stroppy and obnoxious. but people make money out of that so it's OK.   Nev

[Old Koreelah]

On 16/4/2023 at 11:47 AM, Marty_d said:

Freedom from religion is equally important as freedom of religion. 

State schools definitely no place for it. Philosophy yes, ethics yes, even comparative religion overview, but definitely not specific instruction given by non-teaching staff.

The religious mob have always had a foot in the door of state schools: religious instruction lessons, delivered by lay persons of variable ability and effectiveness.

Just a few years ago they were given a much bigger role in our supposedly secular public schools. The LNP government attacked ethics classes in favour of paid “school chaplains”. I worked with one who was a wonderful addition to the team, but know of others with too much religious baggage.

[red750]

A Congresswoman addressing the NRA conference and gun show said,

 

"Just letting you know, my two year old daughter has a rifle and a shotgun."

[rgmwa]

6-year old at the same NRA annual meeting in Indianapolis.

 

[Bruce Tuncks]

Back in the olden days, we had , every wednesday, " religious instruction" which was delivered by a mixture of priests, deacons and lay people. And we had to split up, my catholic friends were told that the anglicans were started cos the pope refused to let Henry murder another wife... next door, we anglicans were told that the religion was started to stop the english being taxed to fund the Spanish Armada.   They obviously  didn't think that we kids talked afterwards.

The most famous case happened though in the metho classroom, where the priest's son was caught doing a ( quite good ) drawing of a copulating couple. ( I don't know for sure that methos had priests, maybe he was called something else.)