God help America

[Jerry_Atrick]

Someone had to pay for Gladys' promise of that moola to Wagga Wagga...

[facthunter]

Wagga Wagga. The most "Grifted " town in Australia from both Federal and State sources. Nev

[old man emu]

Yeah, the Feds pay out to the first Wagga, and the State to the second Wagga, but in the Central West there's no sewer. It's still Dunedoo.

[red750]

Just read on Yahoo about this woman in the US (didn't say where in the US) posted on TikTok that her husband had been unfaithful, so she cheated with his brother and got pregnant. She now claims her kids are 'couslings'. - Cousin siblings. Poor bloody kids.

[red750]

News coming out that the Republicans are cleaning up in the US. Huge win in Virginia, close in New Jersey.

[facthunter]

The end of the world as we know it is nigh.  Nev

[Old Koreelah]

America was always held together by hope- the hope of a better life.

 

For millions, that hope is fading fast. A race war is already underway.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/03/ahmaud-arbery-judge-seats-nearly-all-white-jury-in-georgia-trial

[old man emu]

Sums up the Good Ol' USA, doesn't it?

2 Timothy 4:3-4

3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 

4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

[facthunter]

Most other places as well. . Misinformation Central is all around you.  Nev

[Old Koreelah]

[Old Koreelah]

New hope for some sanity in America:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/05/california-bill-gunmakers-lawsuit

 

“Almost every industry in the US is held liable for what their products do … The gun industry is the one exception.”

If this protected, pampered industry was exposed to market forces like everyone else, they might start acting more responsibly.

[facthunter]

It has enormous lobbying power but I understand may be insolvent. They say Guns protect YOU against the BAD guys and under the Constitution you have the right to defend yourself.. That might have sounded more reasonable when they had flintlocks and not assault weapons.. Mini Cruise weapons , SAMS anybody ? Stark raving loonies served more quickly. We tailor our service to your needs.. Nev

[red750]

Not 'needs', Nev, "wants".

[old man emu]

11 hours ago, facthunter said:

under the Constitution you have the right to defend yourself.

That is wrong. Crystal clear wrong. The wording of the 2nd Amendment is: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

 

The aim of that Amendment is to enable citizens to supply their own weapons when reporting for duty in State militias called up to defend the security of the State in which they live. If the threat to security came from outside the Union, then the several States could come together to form a unified force. The Amendment was necessary because the infant Nation could not support by money a standing army large enough to ward off the attacks of European countries like England, France or Spain.

 

There is nothing in the 2nd Amendment that relates to personal defence against attacks by criminals, Native Americans defending their lands or animal attacks. 

[red750]

More on American gun stupidity:

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/toddler-shoots-mother-baby-sibling-064259203.html

 

The second-last paragraph is spine chilling. Good old Texas forever.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Jerst arbart says eet arlll..

Edited January 7, 2022 by Jerry_Atrick

[old man emu]

You can't believe everything your read on the Internet, but when you read something like this, you have to think of the smoke/fire connection. 

 https://www.childrensdefense.org/state-of-americas-children/soac-2021-gun-violence/

 

I think I may have said it before, but I really appreciate the workmanship displayed in a firearm, even a rough old .22 single shot was a precisely manufactured thing once. But I don't own a gun. I don't have a need for a gun. 

 

Sure, there's gun crime committed, but guns for crime in Australia are generally part of organised crime or feuds in cultures where feuds are traditional. Drive-by shootings of the homes of innocent people are usually the result of mistakes in identifying the correct targets.

 

If a robber approaches me, I simply remember this:

 

OTHELLO ACT 3, SCENE 3, 158 - 159

Iago: 

Who steals my purse steals trash; 'tis something, nothing;
'Twas mine, 'tis his, and has been slave to thousands;

[facthunter]

You missed the important point OME "THEY SAY" was omitted from your  quote which then becomes out of context.  and I could add "and Believe".  They also believe the Bible is the ABSOLUTE WORD of god but that doesn't make it true either. That above 8o% believe it is probably true. What they believe affects what they do and how they justify it.  Nev

[onetrack]

I'm personally of the opinion that the gun-fondlers and the protectors of the firearms manufacturers, don't care about restricting firearms to save childrens lives - because, as you might note from the linked article above, the greatest level of firearm deaths involving children is in "children of color, boys, and older youth". In other words, they believe the proliferation of firearms is a convenient way of ensuring the reproduction levels of the "lower classes", is kept down, so the ruling group of WASP's stays in control of the country.

[nomadpete]

I disagree, Onetrak. I doubt that anyone involved is capable of thinking that deeply. I put it down to simply blind greed. Capitalism does not prioritise ethics.

[willedoo]

2 hours ago, onetrack said:

the greatest level of firearm deaths involving children is in "children of color, boys, and older youth".

Gang violence would be a big factor there.

 

 I remember a few years ago, a journalist did a doco on a gang controlled area in Miami, Florida. He was a war journalist covering the Iraq war. When interviewing an African American soldier, he was surprised to hear that the soldier felt safer in Iraq than in his home area in Miami. He ended up collaborating with this soldier and his family back home to produce the documentary.

 

The gang area in Miami was a no go zone for local police and he was met at the boundary by people armed to the teeth with all manner of military automatic weapons and escorted in to stay with the soldier's family. While there, he witnessed drive by attacks involving bazooka-like shoulder mounted weapons. It was for all purposes a war zone between rival gangs. Not long after the journalist left, the soldier's 14 year old brother was killed outside the family home in a drive by shooting.

[facthunter]

I'm led to believe Chicago is worse. Nev

[onetrack]

Interesting article below, put up by a couple of former U.S. high-ranking military men, over the "insurrection within the ranks", as regards the refusal to get vaccinated for COVID by quite a number of enlisted men. Just goes to show how weak, "leadership" has become in the U.S., in many areas.

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2022/01/07/insurrection-has-led-to-dereliction-of-duty/

[Jerry_Atrick]

Isn't it the crumbling of the military that precedes the crumbling of empires?

[Old Koreelah]

1 hour ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Isn't it the crumbling of the military that precedes the crumbling of empires?

America has been following the same pattern of decline as the Roman Empire.

Their Republic era may be over within this decade.

https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/canada-must-prepare-for-americas-rapid-decline