spacesailor Posted January 17 Posted January 17 It should change colour with a layer of dust on it . spacesailor 1 2
nomadpete Posted January 17 Posted January 17 It's an innovative reinvention of the Emperor's New Clothes ! 1
facthunter Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Religions have been selling invisible things for eternity. Nev 1 1
facthunter Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Depends on which half of the world you inhabit. Heaven's above also depends on where you live... Down here you are upside down but you still don't fall off.. A tire can be flat but the earth is Not. So much to know and so little time. Nev 1 1
Bruce Tuncks Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I've been caught by a scam and still don't know what I did so wrong, what happened is that I bought a translator-device over the net, and it was re-supplied till my card ran dry ( 9 times). How can I "prove" i didnt re-order? The original order was recycled. From now on, I will only buy stuff through paypal... . 2
old man emu Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 Contact your bank. They will have a fraud unit to look into it. 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Et.. the banks systems should have picked up the anomaly... Defo contact them, but be ready to contact APRA as well. I can't remember if the Aussie system has an ombudsman or similar. 1
onetrack Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Bruce, report the scam to the site below, they take scams seriously. Contact your bank/credit card provider and lodge a complaint that you've been charged for items not received, via fraudulent activity, and they will initiate an investigation. It will take some time, but you'll get your money refunded. Keep good records of all your actions during the scam activity. Also, if the online business is a reputable local business, contact their management, it may have been fraud activity by a rogue employee that they can nail. If it was an overseas business, forget it, it's entirely possible the whole online "shop" was just a fraudulent operation. There are many of these fraudulent online "shopfronts" out there, they steal eBay photos, and "sell" a vast range of unrelated products really cheaply, which should make you suspicious, immediately. https://www.cyber.gov.au/report-and-recover/recover-from/scams 1
old man emu Posted March 15 Author Posted March 15 How does one know that the advice to use "Delete Me" isn't a scam? 1
onetrack Posted March 16 Posted March 16 (edited) Here's my take on the Amazon scams; 1. Amazon is run by the biggest scammer around, Jeff Bezos is a bigger scammer than Zuckerberg, and that's saying something. I cancelled my Amazon account due to Amazon's sleazy tricks, such as signing you up to their Amazon Prime membership, when you didn't even agree to it! 2. My phone holds no personal information that useful to scammers or thieves. I keep no bank details on it, no passwords, no addresses. If I give someone my personal details to facilitate a deal, or pay for something, I delete the SMS after the deal is done. I refuse to use my phone as a "payment device". They're basically a very insecure system. 3. I don't do surveys - not even for big, well-known companies. All surveys are scams, designed to get your personal information and data. 4. I don't scan barcodes unless I know the company and know their reputation. I'm certainly not going to scan any random barcode that comes in the mail or in a parcel. 5. I'm wary of any social media promotions, I treat all Tik-Tok videos as scams, and even if they aren't outright scams, 99.9% of Tik-Tok videos are worthless, time-wasting crap. 6. Despite my belief in being internet-savvy, I still get scammed a couple of times a year. I got scammed last week, buying parts online. Here's how it worked. I learnt that a good Taiwanese company. "HJL Autoparts", sells quality timing chains for Nissan engines. I found their website offering good deals on their timing chains, so I bought one - using PayPal and my credit card. As I went to finalise payment, I noted a millisecond flash of a website redirect at the bottom of the page. Uh-oh, this doesn't look good. Oh - Did I mention I got a 2 factor SMS with a code from PayPal for my scam transaction, too!? So I go to PayPal and I see a payment has been made to some Olive Oil Company in the U.S. I check up on that company and it's defunct. So I try to reverse the PayPal transaction, and PayPal tells me I can't reverse the transaction until it's been processed!! WTF??? PayPal are the biggest scammers aid as well!! So I have to wait a couple of days for the transaction to be processed by PayPal, and only then can I start the payment reversal process with PayPal. But when I start the reversal process, I'm given a choice of "ticks" for the reasons for reversing the transaction. Surprise, Surprise! There's no "fraud" or "scam" choice in the reasons for reversing the transaction!! I can only tick, "item not delivered" and nothing else that comes anywhere near the reason for reversing the process. Fortunately, the "item not delivered" did complete the process and I got the payment returned to my CC. But now, the scammers have all my PayPal details and CC details and phone number, so no doubt they've been sold to other scammers on the blackmarket - so now I have to be doubly alert to PayPal scam SMS's and false delivery scam SMS's and Credit Card fraud warning scams ..... sigh......... Only LATER, do I find the GENUINE "HJL Autoparts" - and all the warnings about the fake "HJL Autoparts" website - which copies the genuine site, EXACTLY - except for an additional "S" in the website URL. FAKE WEBSITE - https://www.hjlautopartss.com/ GENUINE WEBSITE - https://www.hjlautoparts.com/ The bottom line is, you can trust no-one on the internet until you have done personal verification outside the internet - and not even huge companies like PayPal or Amazon can be trusted. Interestingly, I've reported the fake website to Google and it still comes up high in Google searches, thus proving that Google cares little about scams and scam websites. Edited March 16 by onetrack 2 2
red750 Posted March 16 Posted March 16 Absolutely agree Onetrack. I have never been on Tik-Tok, Whatap, X, or any of the video sites. I joined FB 15 years ago when I retired, as a means of keeping in touch with my old work colleagues, and many of my extended family members on FB. I have never used PayPal, rarely buy online, don't use tap-and-go on the phone, and don't have any apps, not even the bank app. It makes me mad these days when you want to do something like renew your rego or licence that you are supposed to use an app. Getting around that is a pain in th posterior. The other day I received an email. supposedly from a former colleague, saying "Some photos you may recall, particularly the first couple." On the email summary page, it looked like the genuine email address but when i placed the cursor on the sender, at the bottom of the screen it gave an address ending in .mx. I' wondering if some scammer has copied my address book. 1
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