The Nats

[old man emu]

The Bible is a good source of wise words and sometimes those can be manipulated for comic effect. The same goes for other great works of literature. It's elementary, Watson. The thing is that you have to be prepared to paddle in a lot of pools.

[Marty_d]

Hmmm - I'll have to disagree with you about the bible being a great work of literature.  It's full of contradictions, ridiculous assertions and obvious untruths, the characters are badly drawn and the plot is nonsensical.

If it hadn't already existed and you sent it to any publisher, you'd get a rejection letter.

[old man emu]

You have to remember it is an anthology, not a story that follows one plot line. Whatever you think of its concepts, it does contain some snappy quotes.

[willedoo]

35 minutes ago, old man emu said:

You have to remember it is an anthology, not a story that follows one plot line. Whatever you think of its concepts, it does contain some snappy quotes.

ome, apologies if you already have it, but one book you'd probably like is 'Stevenson's Book of Shakespeare Quotations' by Burton Stevenson. I haven't looked at mine for a long time, but from memory you can pick a word, look it up in the index, and it will point you to any quotations in his plays which contain that word. There's some classic stuff in it. A bit like a Shakespeare dictionary. It's a big thick book about 2,000 pages.

Edited October 27, 2021 by willedoo

[Dax]

8 hours ago, old man emu said:

The Bible is a good source of wise words and sometimes those can be manipulated for comic effect. The same goes for other great works of literature.

No wise words in any of the bibles torah or koran, you find much better works of literature in some kids books, compared to the ridiculous writings of those books and they are all plagiarised from earlier works. How do you get great literature from plagiarised work, it's the opposite of a great work as all they have done is create misery and suppression.

[old man emu]

Dax, will stop putting your negative spin on everything so that what people post is misinterpreted?

 

Marty_d's comment was this:

10 hours ago, Marty_d said:

I'll have to disagree with you about the bible being a great work of literature

He was disagreeing with my statement describing the Bible as a great work of literature. Earlier I had said

11 hours ago, old man emu said:

The Bible is a good source of wise words

Perhaps, to satisfy you I should have said bon mots (good words). That separates the words from their meaning within the whole text. Unfortunately I haven't read Das Capital nor Mein Kampf as I tend to remain amongst English literature. No doubt that the works of Marx and Hitler do contain some phrases that could be put to good use for comic effect. Here's one from Karl: “Go on, get out! Last words are for fools who haven't said enough!”

[old man emu]

9 hours ago, willedoo said:

you can pick a word, look it up in the index, and it will point you to any quotations in his plays which contain that word. There's some classic stuff in it. A bit like a Shakespeare dictionary.

A bit like a book Cheats for Scrabble Players

[Dax]

19 hours ago, old man emu said:

Dax, will stop putting your negative spin on everything so that what people post is misinterpreted?

Facts are only negative when fallacy is trying to be protected and my post has nothing to do with Marty_D's post. The negative spin is trying to make out plagiarised books claiming to be fact, are great works of literature when lies deception and outright plagiarism are not.

 

Making demands of what should and should not be posted, is something you get from dictatorships and psychopaths. It appears to me now you have this power, you want to dictate the theme and content of posts. Constantly posting lines of meaningless bibles quotes, is either to get someone to react so you can wield your power, or they are what you live by.

 

I joined this forum to enjoy good discussion from various points of view and watched it for awhile to see if it was what it seems. Now you come along and demand I apologise to someone who attacked me via PM, then demand I stop posting verifiable facts.

 

Are you going to ban all facts you don't like, but are prepared to post lies and deception yourself in the form of bible quotes, rather hypocritical and not a good example of moderation. Didn't come her to play silly games of power, so will leave you to it and thank the nice people here for interesting discussions.

[old man emu]

7 hours ago, Dax said:

Constantly posting lines of meaningless bibles quotes, is either to get someone to react so you can wield your power, or they are what you live by.

Dax, you have only been a member of this forum for a couple of months. That means that you don't know the personalities of the people who play here. Sometimes I like to try to be witty, other very serious. This place is like any other club. There are those who have been members for years and years, and those, like you, who have joined recently. To understand the culture of the club, you have to understand the various personalities and how they engage with the other members.

 

Sure, I've been using a lot of lines from the Bible of late. It's not that I'm a Bible basher, it's just that words in the lines can be used without taking into account their religious usage. It's no different than if I was to use lines from a Shakespearian work, or any other prose or poetry that is part of our Culture.

 

As for the demand of an apology, I did not demand. I asked you to apologise. You were the one who engaged in a scuffle with another member, which resulted in that long time member leaving. It's like you've come on here like a young buck trying to force the old Monarch of the Glen to retire. 

 

It's true that the owner of this site has given me the responsibilities of a Moderator. But a career spent being a local plod has given me the knowledge to talk softly, but carry a big stick (President Theodore Roosevelt).The idea is negotiating peacefully but also having strength in case things go wrong.  Things I said to you about one's conduct here have only been said to make yo aware of the accepted customs of these forums.

[Yenn]

OK you blokes why not have a bit of give and take. I have been on this forum for some time and I know what OME is up to. He is trying to keep it all civil and injecting topics to get us going. No ill feelings there.

Dax, just take it lightly I am sure OME holds no ill will to you, but he is fairly easy to stir up. We all sit back and watch, hoping for some fair mindedness.

[facthunter]

Yenn (Ian) is Ok too if you allow for him being a pom and only reading the Courier Mail., We've all done the hard yard HERE.  Nev

[Yenn]

Hey, I don't read the Courier Male. Strictly  The Australian, although I don't always agree with their take on things.

[willedoo]

3 hours ago, facthunter said:

the Courier Mail

Murdoch's nadir in this country in my opinion. One of the most disgraceful rags I've ever seen. Many years ago it was readable, but now it would be hard to find a more biased attack dog of a publication.

[Old Koreelah]

2 hours ago, Yenn said:

Hey, I don't read the Courier Male. Strictly  The Australian, although I don't always agree with their take on things.

In the lead up to the last federal election the anti-Labor bias of the Australian got so bad that it’s own journos staged a protest. 

[Marty_d]

Both the Courier Mail and the Australian have value - if you've run short of toilet paper.

[Jerry_Atrick]

My uncle used to work for the Courier Mail.. though I think he voted Labour (and then Labor) all of his life.. maybe an independent thrown in!)

 

Edited October 29, 2021 by Jerry_Atrick

[nomadpete]

9 hours ago, Marty_d said:

Both the Courier Mail and the Australian have value - if you've run short of toilet paper.

I don't think so. Otherwise all those frightened people would have been stockpiling Courier Mails during the covid pandemic?

 

Funny about that....

 

(Toilet paper jingle goes)

"Although it's irritatin, you can read it while you're waitin....

New new newspaper"

 

You'd be too young to recall government issue toilet paper, it was glossy! With all the texture of baking paper without any of the usefulness of baking paper like baking paper. But that did courage most public servants from stealing it. At the time, i'd have preferred newspaper. Newsprint was more effective and less damaging to the user, and also gave the user a sense of purpose when front page pictures of politicians gave one the rare oportunity to let them know what we thought of them.

 

 

For further comprehensive information on this fascinatin subject, refer to reference book "The Specialist".

Edited October 29, 2021 by nomadpete
first draft wasn't verbose enough

[pmccarthy]

That glossy stuff was also somewhat corrugated and designed to be slippery on any surface without removing anything.

[facthunter]

According to the story,  a trader sold some toilet paper to some Indians which THEY named "John Wayne' toilet paper.  

  HIM Rough, HIM Tough, and no take $#!t from Indian. Nev

[Yenn]

While you may not like the views of any newspaper, it is good to read differing opinions. A cas of know thyne enemy.

I disagree with a lot in the Australian, but it shows me what others are thinking. I see Peta Credlin has a spot in it, she was discredited by all and sundry for her control of Tony Abbot but from what I have read she is no fool.

[old man emu]

5 hours ago, nomadpete said:

For further comprehensive information on this fascinatin' subject, refer to reference book "The Specialist".

C'mon, Pete. The Specialist is a comprehensive guide to  locating and fitting out from your basic one-holer to your more extended  two+ holer  and larger.

 

Here's a helping guide to the construction of your basic one-holer. https://waterbuckpump.com/2013/07/09/build-an-outhouse-privy-with-plans-from-1909/ Just remember not to be too finicky when finishing the holes for the thunder box cover. Too smooth and you'll never get the hired help out to do work.

[facthunter]

I doubt it's going to catch on. There's little call for synchronous crapping. and the idea of it being competitive alarms me. . Nev

[onetrack]

Gee, even in the crudest Army latrines we had divider walls (made from hessian) - even if we didn't have doors. What kind of people poop together?? 

 

 

Edited October 30, 2021 by onetrack

[pmccarthy]

When in Rome…..

Edited October 30, 2021 by pmccarthy

[old man emu]

9 minutes ago, pmccarthy said:

When in Rome…..

A fine example of the source of the term just sittin' 'round with the guys, talkin' shit.