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[old man emu]

Would you say that the American idea of the meaning of "freedom" is a result of the lack of a cultural heritage where the imposition of discipline has been a factor in the formation of the culture?

 

By that I mean every European country at the time of the creation of America (now the USA) had a hierarchy stretching from the Head of State to the local community and the culture developed in response to that hierarchy, which kept excesses of behaviour under some control. As soon as these Europeans came the the Americas, the lid came off and excesses were not supressed. 

[facthunter]

The Occupation of the land of North America Modus Operandi was to take all you can and prosper all you can. Winner takes ALL and it's not really changed since then. They see the Blacks as THE looming Problem and ironically they are there because their ancestors were brought in as slaves for Cotton Farms where the original  MOST  Wealthy and POWERFUL was  established in the DEEP South and resulted in the American Civil War the residue of which still exists.  A persistent mistrust of Government pervades the American  existential essence and they worship  a funny christianity and mainly MONEY. The money has " In god we trust " on it.. If they didn't invent it , it's UN American and that's the worst thing possible that can be said about anything or anyone.. Being #1 in the World is God's will.. What could possibly go wrong? Nev

[Old Koreelah]

4 hours ago, old man emu said:

Would you say that the American idea of the meaning of "freedom" is a result of the lack of a cultural heritage where the imposition of discipline has been a factor in the formation of the culture?

 

By that I mean every European country at the time of the creation of America (now the USA) had a hierarchy stretching from the Head of State to the local community and the culture developed in response to that hierarchy, which kept excesses of behaviour under some control. As soon as these Europeans came the the Americas, the lid came off and excesses were not supressed. 

Persuasive arguement, OME. History tends to gloss over the brutal methods that European nations used to maintain stability. No wonder our ancestors fled to lands of freedom and opportunity.

 

American culture seems to be a mish-mash of ingredients: the worship of individual “freedom”, suspicion of their own government and blind trust in the much-corrupted writings of an ancient, obscure clan of goat-herders.

To this unholy mix, they’ve added massive wealth and lots of guns, mass media skilled at inflaming hatreds…

What could go wrong?

[onetrack]

The Americans major problem is worshipping a document drawn up by some fairly backward-thinking leaders of their country in 1787, that can never be altered or changed, and which is worshipped as if the document and its decrees were handed down on stone tablets by God himself on a mountain top, as the Ten Commandments were reportedly handed down to Moses.

Many Americans cannot differentiate between the Ten Commandments and the U.S. Constitution. 

I think it's pretty sad that Americans are so dumb they cannot modernise their rules and regulations for civil living and living in peace with others from 18th century thinking to 21st century thinking.

Then again, I believe there's a major undercurrent of foamy-mouthed, visceral hatred of anyone with a black skin in the U.S. This abominable hatred bubbles to the surface on regular occasions, such as the three whites who hunted down and shot a black bloke who they merely "suspected" of house burglaries.

Whatever possesses these people to hold the belief that they can hunt down and kill anyone they think might have committed an offence of some kind, has me wondering what major portions of their brain cells are missing or damaged - particularly when they then claim to be, "good God-fearing people", then go along to their church, and mouth biblical phrases about "thou shalt not kill" with great (feigned) piety.

[red750]

5 minutes ago, onetrack said:

then go along to their church, and mouth biblical phrases about "thou shalt not kill" with great (feigned) piety.

With a loaded gun in their pocket.

 

It all dates back to the law of the Wild West - he who draws fastest wins. Guns solve everything.

[old man emu]

This is not a bad examination of whether the USA is legally Christian or culturally Christian.

 

 

[facthunter]

Many emmigrated to America to be free of oppressive religion(s). While Jews and Christians AND Moslems are of the ABRAHAMIC  group I don't think many would say Jews ARE Christians. Moslems recognise CHRIST as a legitimate Prophet. That is significant. Mohammed is the final one  to most Islamists but the  Bahai is a break away. but there's differences between Shi ite and Sunny about how his successor is recognised same as there's quite a lot of difference between Roman Catholic and the Church of ENGLAND and the various protestant Christian faiths, which many Roman Catholics didn't recognise. (The ONLY legitimate Marriages were in the Roman Catholic Church where GOD is a TRIUMVIRATE.( The Father , The SON and the HOLY GHOST.

 FREEDOM is emphasised in the USA as fundamental.  They are paranoid about it. Can you at the same time have a requirement to show allegiance and subservience to GOD? If so WHICH god? AND won't that affect your freedom  and will you impose it  (your christian? Brand) on others? So what about THEIR freedoms? Nev