Australian Federal Election 2022

[facthunter]

Who knows but the shares don't pay any dividends. I remember him saying IF you want dividends Don't buy MY shares. He's said some other quite outrageous things to about increasing pensions etc also. Not my kind of person. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

 

ScoMo is a knockout!

Edited May 19, 2022 by Jerry_Atrick

[Old Koreelah]

A clear, easy to understand summary:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-20/federal-election-map-lying/101076016

[willedoo]

7 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

ScoMo is a knockout!

I like the bit at the end about never owning a house.

[old man emu]

Just noticed this graphic which shows who holds what Seats. The NCP only hold ten seats, and they are all in NSW. 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Well, today (your time) is the day! Good thing is I can tune into the ABC and watch the election night broadcast and it will be a civil hour 😉

 

I wonder which way it is going to go.. Fairfax news editorials are supporting Labor, apparently. The last time I saw them do that was in 1983 for the election of Bob Hawke. Will thee Greeens gain any lower house seats? Will UAPs scare texts change the ballot. Will Queensland determine the winners or losers? Even if whoever you want in makes it in, will they be able to effect the change you want? Will there be a federal (or, ahem, ferral) ICAC? With teeth?

 

I read Julia GHillard made a rare foray back into politics to encourage women to vote for Albanese; Scomo's wife jumped on the trail and was reported that if she was there all along, he may have been in the box seat as she is so liakeable...

 

Willl Josh survive (poltically)? If the LNP lose and are turfed from government, ScoMo is signalling he won't resign, so will he be able to make a comeback, or wil lthe LNP knves be sharpened and lodged deeply in his back (of course, if they lose and can't form government)?

 

My beloved Hawks are going to lose against the Lions this weekend, so the election will provide a pleasant distraction!

 

Let the sport really begin.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 20, 2022 by Jerry_Atrick

[old man emu]

I made up my "How I'm going to Vote" card last night and am about to head out the door to use it. Luckily I have seven candidates standing in my electorate, so the National Party candidate will have to wait for ages before my preference comes his way. He'll get it, I'm sure. See the big green area in the graphic above? That's my electorate. 

 

[nomadpete]

Since the goverment/s fail to be capable of creating a week of pre-election media silence, I invoked my personal one. Haven't bothered watching the news and won't until next week, after the hand-wringing and tearful post mortems are behind us. 

I am now able of actively swiping to flick the social media/email/sms/spam.

 

I feel that my ageing memory is relatively able to recall sufficient political 'incidents' from the past 3 years, to get an idea of candidates 'abilities'.

 

Saturation last minute spruiking and mudslinging doesn't change my view.

 

So, chaps. I trust our forum. Has Rupert won his election yet?

[kgwilson]

Scomo won't resign if he loses because he doesn't know how to. He was fired from his last 2 jobs as head of NZ & then Australian tourist boards & has been in politics ever since.

[nomadpete]

When I was a kid I was told...

"Cheats never prosper"   and

" Crime doesn't pay"

 

Later. I learnt these axioms are not true.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Quite a good comparison between Aus & UK politics

 

 

 

[facthunter]

Ones got BAD Hair and the other little hair.   Boris is dour and smirko is what he is.  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

You know politics has sunk to a new low when they are using fake signs (yes, I know, it has happened before.. Wonder by whom?):

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-21/federal-election-live-blog-scott-morrison-anthony-albanese/101085640#live-blog-post-1211491562

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Eearly wins to the LNP

 

And in the time I pasted the above, OTH took a seat...

Edited May 21, 2022 by Jerry_Atrick

[nomadpete]

Steady on, Jerry

It's not a race.

We won't know until tomorrow

[Jerry_Atrick]

I know... But I always get a little excited on election night... Currently glued to the ABC live stream... Also, the rural seats tend to count first... so expected...

 

 

Greens currently doing well in Griffith:

 

And similar in Ryan - both Brissie seats

Edited May 21, 2022 by Jerry_Atrick

[Jerry_Atrick]

LNP still holding the lead

 

[Marty_d]

Can you stop trying to make me depressed, Jerry?  I'm going to ignore the whole thing until we know who's won.  Then I'll either be relieved, or if Scummo is wanker-in-chief again, VERY down.

[willedoo]

Might be more Greens in the lower house by the look of it. They're doing well in Queensland.

[willedoo]

As more numbers come in, the bulldozer will be a bit worried he might on the back of the low-loader and moving out tomorrow. Not looking good for the Libs. Pre polls might help them a bit.

[Jerry_Atrick]

40 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

Can you stop trying to make me depressed, Jerry?  I'm going to ignore the whole thing until we know who's won.  Then I'll either be relieved, or if Scummo is wanker-in-chief again, VERY down.

Lools liek there isn't going to me much change... in Tassie, but seats have moved from LNP to ALP, looking like greens.. and Teal indepdents look like picking up up to 4 seats from the LNP.

ABC calling it difficult to LNP to get to 70 seats

 

It looks to be a minority government - which is not unexpcted. If Greens pick up seats, then they will only side with the ALP would be my guess.. Indepdents are less likely too I would imaghine, but they would demand a change of leadership.

 

The LNP fella on the ABC panel should be close to their leader - he does seem a lot more level headed...

[old man emu]

The Libs have crashed and burned. The Nationals apparently have won all the seats they held in the last parliament and may have picked up two more. 

 

ABC is calling Albo Mr Prime Minister.

[red750]

And if Andrews gets back in Vic, kill me now.

[Jerry_Atrick]

There's been a ferw seat wins by the LNP with nothing gained by Labor for the last hour or so.. But it is impossible for the LNP to govern as OME calls  it. It is possible that the Greeens get 4 seats , then it will be an Albanese government despite the ALP stating they will not negotiate, blah blah blah. If not, then the ALP is most likely to form government with the Teals, but it will be a very rough ride as the Teals are mainly Liberal - moderates. @Marty_d, you can sleep easy tonight.. as WA seems to be voting more Labour/Greens, rather than Tassie which looks to become a LNP stronghold.

 

@red750 - the ex Trade Minister (LNP), has been quite honest in a tactical way... and he admitted that the Vic Libs been disfunctional, unprofressional and underperformed for over a decade - if not decades.. So you would really prefer theirt current state machine to govern over Andrews!?! Each to their own, I say, but on competence, even the LNP are identifying them as a problem.. Let them fix their problems before handing them the right to govern, I say.. That is not to say I am glowingly endorsing Andrews or the Vic ALP.

 

BTW, I agree that the LNP has taken a kicking this election - but so has the ALP. There has been on a 2-party prefered swing to ALP by 2.2%, but their share of the primary vote has decreased by about 2%.. This, against a washed up LNP is not only a lack of a ringing endorsement, but it is a loss in my book.

For me, the fairest is the ALP governs in a  minority.. with the Greens/Cross Benchers holding their feet to the fire. Hopefully the LNP will regroup to be a party who ultimately believes in bettering Australia rather than vested interests and becomes a viable oppostiion.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Josh Conceding, but the LNP seat count is up and Labor has not moved, despite a big swing in WA...