Albo Needs Marketing

[Jerry_Atrick]

Albanese will definitely need some marketing in the upcoming election. We don't want another SFM - definitely not (well some may, but I think they nays have it). But without marketing, you don't get your message across in a way that people engage with and buy into.

 

The press are already subliminally laying into him. In this article, it basically says Albos is not going to be doing too much nor giving too much away in terms of policy before the next election campaign is in full swing:

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/why-albanese-is-playing-a-dead-bat-20211202-p59e60.html

 

Oddly, the youtube vid below speaks differently. Albo has actually performed the cardinal sin in politics and almost danced up the pitch to slog the ball for six. As Hewson and others have learned the hard way, coming out on the front foot gives the opposition plenty of time to change their field, adjust the line and length of the ball and go on the attack - and score a few wickets.

 

There is plenty in the below vid that sounds appealing (at least to me).. if somewhat aspirational. The buy Australian policy (which I will have to read, as there are so many impediments - e.g. is an Aussie incorporated company that is controlled by foreign interests still considered Australian? What happens if an Australian supplier is bought out by foreign interests part way through a contract (can't see an opportunity for corruption there)? What about any obligations under free trade agreements? Is just simply made in Australia good enough? What even is made in Australia when components or intellectual property come from overseas?

 

I liked the bit where he admits he may not always get it right, but he won't run and hide; he will own up to it (of course, the proof is in the pudding). And there were a few other things I liked.

 

But, jeez, just like my posts, it was long an laborious.. And the fake clapping and disinterested looks on his audience's faces was all too staged and fake. And his speech fell short of impact, despite his lack of inspiration. In fact, as I write this, I have already forgotten a lot of what he said (I think I fell asleep for a bit of it - but it was a big roast dinner today and I did enjoy a wine with it).

 

I wish him well but the LNP lying machine and the Murdoch/Fairfax partnership against anything not LNP don't bode well for a change of government.

 

 

[old man emu]

Oh dear!

 

Two and a half minutes into it and he makes the election a Albo -v- ScoMo  clash. He says, "I want to..." Now that's OK if he was talking to his electorate in order to contest his seat, but I'm not interested in his wishes. I want to know what the Labor Party policy, that will be told by each Party candidate in their own electorate, will be. I don't want this election to be a clash of the personalities of the current leaders. I want a considered plan.

 

I want a plan that omits the word "economy". I want a plan that puts the resources, or a good portion of the profits from those resources back into improving the lot of those who produce them. I want the wealth so obtained to be distributed for the benefit of everyone. Not in the fashion of the fashion of the Communist regimes, nor in the highly socialist ones. Basically, I want government to stop its extravagance and get its hand out of my wallet. To stop trying to keep up with the Jones's. To support the re-establishment of manufacturing so that it is Australians who add value to the bounty of this land.

 

The majority of Australians are middle-of-the-roaders. Most want to live simple, worry-free lives. That means a roof over their heads, food on the table and freedom to do what they wish with the money that remains after taking care of the basic needs for life. They are happy to be employed doing something useful. It is the under-employed who are the rabble rousers. "Idle hands are the devil’s workshop" - Proverbs 16:27

[nomadpete]

OME ya had me goin. You'da got my vote...... right up to the last two lines. That stuff has no place in government.

[onetrack]

The greatest single problem with our Govts is that they are merely the subjects of the global corporations, who thumb their collective noses at regulation, controls, and taxes. These corporations play Govts like fiddles, because they handle more money in a day than the average Govt does in a month.

These massive corporations have no social conscience (despite the bleatings of their PR depts), they have no allegiance to anyone but their management and shareholders, and they manipulate laws and regulations at their will to suit their own ends.

In essence, they do what they like, because they have the vast amount of funds available to them to do that, and what they do, is rarely to the public benefit.

I see Albo sucking up to these global corporations and huge businesses, and this is anathema to me, and to the heart of Labor aims. Albo's change of tack essentially indicates he knows he can't get elected without the major political and financial support of big business, and this is where our democracy is being perverted and misaligned, leading to great frustration on the part of many voters, who have no idea of what is needed to remedy the situation.

 

Edited December 6, 2021 by onetrack

[facthunter]

A lot of Business has already supported Albo against Sco Mos pathetic and non effective climate offerings, which are a consequence of being utterly blackmailed by Joyces lot of Holy Coalies and fracking water thieves. The MSM will never help Labor and IF they did, Labor's policies would be wrong. Nev

[old man emu]

1 hour ago, nomadpete said:

OME ya had me goin. You'da got my vote...... right up to the last two lines. That stuff has no place in government.

I know you don't like me quoting from that old cultural work, but I had to find the original source. 

 

Geoffrey Chaucer's used it in The Tale of Meilbee in the 14th century, suggesting that boredom often leads to acts of mischief that do more harm than good.
From The Tale of Melibee, c. 1386:
"Therefore seith Seint Jerome: "Dooth somme goode dedes that the devel, which is oure enemy, ne fynde yow nat unocupied."

 

 

Basically, by Chaucer's time the biblical proverb had become a cliché.

[nomadpete]

A cliche, never the less. And one that some might see as being legitimising an old storybook.

And that old storybook is not the only one that contains some useful quotes. Personally I prefer a higher percentage of Oscar Wilde's quotes.

[Marty_d]

35 minutes ago, nomadpete said:

A cliche, never the less. And one that some might see as being legitimising an old storybook.

And that old storybook is not the only one that contains some useful quotes. Personally I prefer a higher percentage of Oscar Wilde's quotes.

"I can resist everything except temptation" resonates with me.

[old man emu]

48 minutes ago, nomadpete said:

And one that some might see as being legitimising an old storybook.

That's a little bit harsh. I never made any claim about the veracity of the basis of the work. I was simply using a well-known sentence.

 

Is that any different from using the sentence, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"? Or "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Or for those stranded in their electric cars in the depths of a European winter, "A horse! a horse! My kingdom for a horse!"

[nomadpete]

I get it. However, I'd rather see usage of text from sources of greater literary value. Because it might encourage the average passer by to go and read more from that source.

 

All men are created equal. But some are more equal than others.

[old man emu]

20 minutes ago, nomadpete said:

However, I'd rather see usage of text from sources of greater literary value

The reason that English uses so many phrases from the Bible is that in earlier times people were more involved with their religion than they are today. They read and studied the Bible and were able to recite large parts of it. Having those words in their heads resulted in their using them in their secular lives. One of my favourites is the use by the Navy in relation to rations - Hebrews 13:8 " Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Shakespeare is another great source. It is often hard to find an appropriate quote from famous people because they are like newscast sound bites, and not widely reported.

 

Nowadays, how many phrases do you use that you have picked up from advertising or popular entertainment? Not happy, Jan.  Good onya, Mum. I remember a lot of older ones, but they date me too much, and not being in use today, just confuse anyone under 50 years of age. To a Baby Boomer saying "It's been a hard day's night" has an underlying memory, but to a young person it is simply a statement of fact.

 

Anyhow. Have a Winfield.

[nomadpete]

3 hours ago, old man emu said:

I remember a lot of older ones, but they date me too much,

But those quotes are not as old as the biblical ones, I'd wager.

 

3 hours ago, old man emu said:

English uses so many phrases from the Bible is that in earlier times people were more involved with their religion than they are today. They read and studied the Bible

Particularly so in our empoverished early settlers days when many a child had no formal schooling and was taught to read from the only book in the house..... Which was a bible. But OME, those days are long gone now.

 

Old mate Albo will need something more inspiring than a handful of quotable quotes from the old book. And I note that biblical quotes are curiously absent from even SFM's sound bites.

Edited December 7, 2021 by nomadpete
enhanced the obfuscation

[old man emu]

28 minutes ago, nomadpete said:

But OME, those days are long gone now.

Yes. Long gone, but ...

 

[old man emu]

32 minutes ago, nomadpete said:

And I note that biblical quotes are curiously absent from even SFM's sound bites

Do happy clappers study and refer to the Bible in the same way that the fundamentalists do?

 

The term Happy clappers, is a derogatory term originating in the United Kingdom. The term came into household knowledge in that country in the late 1990s after a reported remark by the former Archbishop of Canterbury Robert Runcie, referring to a style of Christian worship particularly evident in Evangelical and Pentecostal churches. Christian critics of this style of worship, of which Runcie was one, object to what they perceive as simply the rousing of emotion rather than properly focusing on God.

 

So there you go, Nomad. Another trigger to sectarian hostility amongst those who are entreated to "love thy neighbour".

[Yenn]

The problem with Albo is that he cannot see himself ever being PM, he really doesn't come over as having any faith in his own abilities. Not surprising when you look at his record, but he needs more push.

I doubt that he will win the election, but if he really wants to he is going to have to go for SM and show him up for what a useless turd he really is. No good being nice about it, because PMT is not going to be nice.

Albo should be spruiking about China not wanting to go to war because that would have nothing to gain and a lot to lose, because if he doesn't PMT is going to bring  a China scare into the election about two weeks before voting day.

[old man emu]

Just now, Yenn said:

PMT

Yenn, please explaaain "PMT, other than a female discomfort.

 

I find that Albo's major drawback is the sound of his voice. He, like Rudd sounds like the little kid whinging that he's not allowed to play with the big kids. What you want in a male leader is a voice with a bit of depth, like a growl, in it. For a female leader, the voice needs to be mid-range. I always thought Gladys sounded like she had a cold in the nose.

[facthunter]

The New Testament warns of "FALSE Prophets"  and Pagan Images and people taking his name in vain. The Evangelicals believe in Big PROFITS eminating from their God for the "deserving" believers. You get the best of both worlds  with Morrison's Mob. I think IF heaven had people like Sco MO in it , it would be HELL. Nev

[old man emu]

I see that A Bott, Scomo and the rest of the Forty Thieves are backing Our Glad to reclaim the once-safe seat of Warringah, currently held by Independent Zali Steggall who ousted A Bott.

[Marty_d]

Albo's best mate right now is George Christensen.  He's doing more to sink the LNP than anyone else.

 

What a prize turd.  I really cannot believe that the people of his electorate voted him in.  What the hell were they thinking?

[Old Koreelah]

Standards of conduct in this government slipped, then collapsed. 

I remember another Liberal, from the old school, where standards mattered. Steel Hall, Premier of SA voted for a bill that was honourable, but which he knew was political suicide.

[Yenn]

PMT is Poor mans Trump and I think it is a good description of our PM.

[willedoo]

50 minutes ago, Yenn said:

PMT is Poor mans Trump and I think it is a good description of our PM.

Thanks for the clarification. I had assumed it was Prime Minister T*rd

[old man emu]

1 minute ago, willedoo said:

I had assumed it was Prime Minister T*rd

With a bit of work you can polish a turd and end up with something half decent.

[willedoo]

Just now, old man emu said:

With a bit of work you can polish a turd.

Seems to be the main occupation of the government these days.

[Bruce Tuncks]

Tell us more about that Steele Hall story please old K. I actually saw him in the stairs quite a few times as my first job was in the same building as his office.