Sanctions against Russia

[Old Koreelah]

What’s the best use for our SuperHornets? Ukraine would take years to train personnel and set up facilities for them. Perhaps at best, a signal to Russia that their little neighbour is assured of a reliable supply of foreign weapons.

 

Maybe Australia would be prudent to mothball recently-superseded warplanes in our desert for a few years, while we have still have all the facilities, personnel and skills to operate them if things closer to home go pearshaped. That’s what the yanks do. Woomera RAAF base is already secure and has a couple of disused runways, probably a perfect place to store them.

 

Let’s hope that Putin’s forces get the message that the world is swarming to Ukraine’s side and that they’ll never win, so go home and rebuild their own country. Unfortunately, history’s lesson is that beaten Russia fighters will go home and start a revolution.

[Old Koreelah]

53 minutes ago, willedoo said:

When the reservoir empties it will be the end of Crimea's water supply. They'll be back on water restrictions and water piped from mainland Russia.

That pipeline will be a critical link and easily destroyed. I believe lots of Russians have already left Crimea. When the water dries up, more will follow.

[willedoo]

41 minutes ago, Old Koreelah said:

What’s the best use for our SuperHornets? Ukraine would take years to train personnel and set up facilities for them.

It's not the SuperHornets involved, just the old legacy F/A-18A, and possibly the F/A-18B two seat trainers.

[Old Koreelah]

52 minutes ago, willedoo said:

It's not the SuperHornets involved, just the old legacy F/A-18A, and possibly the F/A-18B two seat trainers.

The last time I heard them mentioned, Canada was interested in buyng them.

[pmccarthy]

The Russkies had allowed the water level to rise well above normal over the last month. As soon as the counter offensive began, they blew it. Half of Ukraine is now cut off from the occupied bit and Ukrainian troops in the delta area are in trouble. It is time for NATO to step in and sort Putler out properly.

[kgwilson]

It is only a temproary problem. The water will recede within a week or so and things will get back to normal except no water storage, no water for Crimea, and no electricity from the Hydro plant.

[spenaroo]

wonder if putins new strategy is salt the earth in defeat

anyone seen the hilarity that is South Africa and the president trying to invite Putin to a confrence, without having to arrest him through his own country's laws (including the constitution)

Edited June 7, 2023 by spenaroo

[spenaroo]

5 hours ago, kgwilson said:

It is only a temproary problem. The water will recede within a week or so and things will get back to normal except no water storage, no water for Crimea, and no electricity from the Hydro plant.

been reading today that it might actually have been a ecological miracle.
as it was from the soviet era and sacrificed a lot of good farm land. with modern farming abilities the water needed is reduced.
Unfortunately they are already politicizing it as a "we will rebuild" without the question of should it be rebuilt

[willedoo]

This probably should be in the funnies section. The Russian military are claiming they destroyed eight Leopard tanks on Monday and provided video evidence. This is the video the Russian ministry of defence released showing a Ka-52 attack helicopter destroying a John Deere spray rig and harvester. It's an example of how far from reality they've traveled in the last year. The second video down on the page is larger and gives a better view.

 

https://www.rt.com/russia/577579-nato-supplied-tanks-destroyed-video/

 

 

 

[willedoo]

It's the way the Kremlin always operates. First they make a ridiculous statement, then scratch around to fabricate proof after the fact. If you need video proof, just order some Alligators to go out and blow up a few John Deeres. They figure as long as the machine has a pointy bit on one end, the plebs wouldn't know the difference.

[onetrack]

The destruction of the Kakhova Dam will benefit Russia more than it benefits the Ukraine, as the water is flooding all the riverine areas that Ukrainian troops would have to cross to root out the Russian troops.

 

But I suspect the Ukrainians were fully aware of what might happen as regards the dam, and have alternate plans in place - probably just via landing troops by air behind the Russians, cutting them off, and driving them into the River.

 

https://www.rt.com/russia/577570-kakhovka-dam-destruction-explainer/

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by onetrack

[Jerry_Atrick]

I can't access any of the two articles above - censorship is alive and well in the UK... It was justified to stop Russian propaganda. Maybe I subcribe to a VPN service.

[willedoo]

1 hour ago, onetrack said:

But I suspect the Ukrainians were fully aware of what might happen as regards the dam, and have alternate plans in place - probably just via landing troops by air behind the Russians, cutting them off, and driving them into the River.

Ukraine has very little air dropping capacity. The few Mi-8's they could use might be able to lift a company in one lift, but that would be without support equipment. They have a lot more water landing capacity, but my guess is one of the plans would be to land special forces with artillery support to drive the orcs back far enough so the engineers can lay a portable bridge across the Dnipro River. The dam wall had the only remaining road access for the Ukrainians to cross in the region, but that option is now gone. At least once the water goes down, the dam wall vicinity would be an ideal spot for a temporary bridge if they can take control of Nova Kharkova on the left bank.

 

The Ukrainians are claiming that a lot of the Russian forces in the forward defensive areas on the left bank have been wiped out by the floodwaters. If the Russians did blow the bridge and didn't warn those troops to pull back so they could keep the element of surprise, it would be typically Russian. They don't care how many of their own troops are sacrificed if it benefits the bigger picture.

[willedoo]

1 hour ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

I can't access any of the two articles above - censorship is alive and well in the UK... It was justified to stop Russian propaganda. Maybe I subcribe to a VPN service.

Jerry, you might be able to access it if you google up some free proxies. I seem to remember having to use a proxy when the war first started for a brief period. I think that was just on the Russian end as initially their media websites were getting some DoS attacks, so were restricting connections from certain IP's. European countries have put a lot of blocks on Russian media, but so far they are all still accessible here in Australia.

[willedoo]

1 hour ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Maybe I subcribe to a VPN service.

Here's a couple of free proxies that might work:

 

https://www.sslsecureproxy.com/

 

https://onlineproxy.eu/

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Thanks, @willedoo - I can't reach the free proxies, either.. but that may have something to do with parental controls.

 

[nomadpete]

7 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Thanks, @willedoo - I can't reach the free proxies, either.. but that may have something to do with parental controls.

 

Wow! I always had a lot of trouble with parental control. Mostly in my youth.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Self inflicted this time...

[willedoo]

Russia won't want to mess with Poland in the years to come. They are well on track to becoming Europe's most powerful non-nuclear land army. The photo below is of what's been nicknamed the Polish HIMARS. It's a South Korean K239 Chunmoo multiple rocket launcher mounted on a Polish Jelcz chassis. Poland is buying 288 of them as well as another 500 HIMARS systems from the U.S.. That's big numbers when you consider the huge impact 18 HIMARS systems has had in swinging the balance in Ukraine's favour in the war.

 

In other deals with South Korea, Poland will be buying up to 1,000 K2 tanks, 672 K9 self propelled howitzers and 48 FA-50 light fighter aircraft. Other deals with the U.S. apart from the HIMARS are F-35 fighters, Patriot air defence systems and 250 Abrams tanks.

[spenaroo]

I wonder how being the 2cnd best army in Ukraine has effected the Russian arms sales.
surely places that have access to western arms like india will be questioning current and future contracts

[willedoo]

3 minutes ago, spenaroo said:

I wonder how being the 2cnd best army in Ukraine has effected the Russian arms sales.
surely places that have access to western arms like india will be questioning current and future contracts

I'd say it will put a massive dent in it. It's quite possible they will end up with only those customers that have no other option but to buy Russian because of sanctions on their countries or other political reasons. Customers are seeing two things - first of all, a lot of much hyped up Russian new tech gear is under performing compared to western counterparts, and second, they are now seeing Russia as having reliability problems as a supplier. The Russians have failed to deliver on a lot of contracts as they had to divert export gear to the war in Ukraine.

 

Potential customers would be reluctant to sign contracts with a country whose future as an arms supplier is in so much doubt. If they lose big customers like India, it will hit hard. The Russian share of world arms exports has been falling for a few years now, but this war has exposed a lot of weaknesses in their gear. There will always be a good market for Mi-8/Mi-17 types, but a lot of the higher tech gear might be in doubt.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Yes.. I see China as a net beneficiary for its arms industry in all this.. No wonder Xi Jing Ping was happy for Russia to continue.

[willedoo]

The Chief Rabbi of Ukraine almost got killed by a shell in Kherson. He's been there helping out with the evacuations in the flooded areas, and the Russians are shelling the civilian evacuation points. He was wounded in the right hand and is temporarily out of action while he recovers.

[facthunter]

Putin's still repeating his performance in Syria. Level everything and KILL everything that moves. WAR CRIMES? What WAR?

[willedoo]

A meme showing the difference between Ukrainians and Russians.