Sanctions against Russia

[onetrack]

Katherine Hepburn was the heroine in "The African Queen", Nev - your fuzzy memory has struck again. Never mind, it was released in 1951, so we'll cut you some slack.

I can only just remember 1951, it was the year we moved onto the farm in "the bush", and I can remember all the moving effort. It was all pretty memorable to a 2 yr old.

[spacesailor]

BUT 1953 

Was the best year .

That was the year we tossed the English " Ration Book " .

Kids could buy lollies ' IF ' they had any pennies.  LoL. 

spacesailor

PS , the Queen was crowned that year too .

 

Edited December 28, 2023 by spacesailor
A little more !

[pmccarthy]

Katherine Hepburn?

[red750]

[facthunter]

There's much written about his marriage to Bacall so I mixed that up..  Nev

[willedoo]

I haven't watched the movie in a long time. I seem to remember Katherine starting the journey as a cranky old bat and Bogey as a bit of a grog artist. If my memory serves me well, he eventually buttered her up. Didn't she tip his grog overboard at one stage?

[facthunter]

He didn't have to practice being a Grog and smoking addict. My main recollection is the "clunky" motor in the boat.  Nev

[Bruce Tuncks]

Spacey, I read that the poorer kids never ate as well as they did during rationing. Further, the pommy conscripts in ww1 were 3" shorter that the german ones.  Due to the much poorer diet of poor kids in pommyland.

To the extent these things are true, the pommy homeland was a rotten and corrupt place. I think though that they are more democratic than Nth Korea, that emerging monarchy.

[spacesailor]

Rotten & corrupt.

Those " poor " starving north England people. Had to.sell their " Ration books " to afford to eat .

Or they " ate " whatever they could catch .

spacesailor

PS : no more ' Carrier Pigeons '  left .

 

[facthunter]

They HAVE a "God-King" in North Korea. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Interesting article on the Novocherkassk. Apparently, it wasn't F16s, but UIkranian missiles that hit it while it was probably carring explosive cargo causing a second explosion. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/uk-intelligence-explains-russian-ship-novocherkassk-intense-elimination-blast/ar-AA1m9u2w

 

 

[willedoo]

10 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Interesting article on the Novocherkassk. Apparently, it wasn't F16s, but UIkranian missiles that hit it while it was probably carring explosive cargo causing a second explosion. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/uk-intelligence-explains-russian-ship-novocherkassk-intense-elimination-blast/ar-AA1m9u2w

 

 

Thanks Jerry, that explains a lot. I thought the destruction to the ship looked a lot more than what the missiles would do, so that's why. The Ukrainian intelligence must have found out it had Shahed drones on board.

Edited December 30, 2023 by willedoo

[red750]

A pro-Putin politician has been found dead after allegedly falling from a third-floor window in Russia.

Vladimir Egorov, 46, who was a member of the ruling United Russia party, is the latest of Russian elites to have been found dead in strange circumstances.

 

Local media reported on Thursday that the regional politician was found in a courtyard outside his home in Tobolsk, central Russia.

 

A Russian news agency reported that Mr Egorov fell from the third-floor window of his house.

“A body was discovered, the fact of death was confirmed, the investigator is establishing all the circumstances,” the Investigative Committee for the Tyumen region told Russian state news agency TASS.

 

The committee also told Russian media that there were no “external signs of criminal death” on Egorov’s body and that they “could not confirm the information about the circumstances of the deputy’s death” as they are still conducting an autopsy.

 

Meanwhile, Tobolsk City Duma published an obituary on Thursday saying that Egorov died “as a result of an accident.”

 

They praised the politician – its deputy chairman before his death – for providing “comprehensive support to the participants of the Special Military Operation and the families of military personnel” fighting in Ukraine.

 

Mr Egorov was forced out of the city administration in 2016 following a corruption scandal for which he was not convicted. He then returned to the political fray in 2020.

 

He is the latest of a series of mysterious deaths in Vladimir Putin’s inner circle since the war in Ukraine began.

 

Most recently, the deputy editor of a Russian tabloid newspaper died under strange circumstances just one year after her boss.

 

Anna Tsavera was the deputy editor-in-chief of Komsomolskaya Pravda, a daily tabloid newspaper described by Mr Putin as his “favourite newspaper”, according to a document from the European Commission.

 

The 35-year-old was found by her parents at her Moscow apartment in early December. Police have opened an investigation but initial reports suggest there were no signs of a struggle or a violent death but she had complained of feeling unwell to her parents the previous day.

 

Her boss Vladimir Sungorkin, 68, died suddenly during a business trip in September 2022.

 

A colleague at Komsomolskaya Pravda said he died shortly after suggesting to staff they “find a nice place somewhere” for lunch. A few minutes later he began to suffocate and by the time he was taken outside for fresh air he was already unconscious.

 

Another mysterious fate includes Ravil Maganov, the chairman Russia’s second-biggest oil and gas company, which had previously taken a public stance against Russia’s war in Ukraine.

Maganov died after falling out of the window of a hospital in Moscow in September last year, according to TASS.

[facthunter]

The Russian way of "falling from Grace"  It's not a window of opportunity or a "send off" you would want. Nev

[Bruce Tuncks]

Personally, I am still nonplussed at how you could give guns to people who hate you and not get shot straight away.

 

[red750]

No. 1 rule in Russia - stay away from the window.

[Marty_d]

As a public safety measure I think Russia should ban opening windows.

 

However something tells me the problem would shift to staircases, elevator shafts, radios falling into bathtubs, slippery bathroom floors and various other household risks...

[pmccarthy]

It’s defenestration, a very old political move.

[Bruce Tuncks]

getting back to nth Korea, I reckon we are seeing how a monarchy starts...  you have a really good murderer as a dictator, and he becomes so powerful that he can pass on his authority to his son, even if that son is goofy-looking.

But, I hasten to say, as time passes, the plebs get more powerful and begin to limit the king's powers. This is what we have these days in GB....  which is counted as a democracy, I think. It can't be a very good democracy, or we would have a vote on Charles' tenure.

[facthunter]

WE used to be British citizens by virtue of being Australian. That's not the case now and we have no access to advise King Charles as British citizens do. It HAS to be sorted. There is NO British EMPIRE.  Nev

[Bruce Tuncks]

I like your post nev, but the fact is that we had a referendum on the monarchy subject and I lost. To this day, I can't decide if Turnbull was a fool or a traitor, so bad were the pro-republic arguments.

 

 

[facthunter]

I blame Howard mostly for the  confusion aided by the usuals. 

[spacesailor]

BUT

As usual for the ' monarchy ' dumping .  We Will , try again, untill , We loose the vote .

By Not being a democracy! .

spacesailor

 

[willedoo]

In reference to the original thread topic, the sanctions are a cruel joke on the Ukrainian people. They've only just now on January 1st banned the import into EU countries of non-industrial natural diamonds, artificial diamonds and jewelry containing diamonds from Russia. For almost two years of this war, they've been happily supporting the Russian diamond industry. They're jerking our chains.

[willedoo]

Just like the Biden administration's press releases of strong condemnation and official protests. The Ukrainians want F-16's and long range ATACMS, not hot air and weasel words. The US mantra of 'as long as it takes' has now been modified to 'as long as we can'. The Ukrainians are being shafted.