Jerry_Atrick Posted July 6, 2022 Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) BoJo survived a no confidence vote, right? Think again: Sometimes PMs should take the hint rather than implode the government. Edited July 6, 2022 by Jerry_Atrick
old man emu Posted July 6, 2022 Posted July 6, 2022 What a show of ego! Is that how parliamentarians show the electorate that they only stood for election "to serve the Country"? What an unholy trio - Trump, Putin, Johnson. 1
onetrack Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 I've always wondered how these boofheads like Johnson and Trump get into these positions of top-level power with such an abysmal track record. We all know how Putin got into, and stays in power. As for our Western leaders, this pair only make the need for a political position job application, even more urgent as a primary requirement, when putting themselves forward as a political leadership candidate. I mean to say, in no other salaried job in the world can you get into such positions of power and leadership, without presenting your CV and outlining your track record and skills, generally to a panel or board. It's well overdue that our Western democratically-elected potential leaders are subjected to the same public scrutiny of their CV, track record and skills, by an independent qualified panel, if they want to put themselves into these crucial positions. 1 1
facthunter Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 A comprehensive Psych test would eliminate most of them from contention.. You don't give idiots positions of control. Not if you want to manage risk. Nev 4
willedoo Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 The Ukrainians say Boris is the most popular foreign politician there. They might offer him a job if he's looking for one soon. 1
Yenn Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 The leaders you are talking about are not elected by the people. They are elected by the party. At least Biden, Trump, Johnson and our very own Morrison. They only stay as leaders while the party supports them. What does that tell you. Surely it is the party that is at fault. Johnson is a clown, as was Trump, but in both cases the party decided they were clowns worth having. 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted July 7, 2022 Author Posted July 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Yenn said: Surely it is the party that is at fault. Kier Starmer, the Labour leader here, effectively said the same in parliament, when he said that anyone who resigned recently but defended the indefensible throughout has not a shred of integrity; and also it is the ship that is deserting the rats. I can't help but think that this is a power play, with the attorney general already stating she will put her hat in the ring for leadership; but I think that is to deflect from the big hitters of the Conservative party (of which she is most definitely not). The Conservatives only 3 weeks ago had a no confidence vote which BoJo narrowly won - however the rules of the 1922 Committee is that a second no confidence vote can't be held for 12 months. The Parliamentary Standards Committee is due to deliver its verdict on whether BoJo intentionally misleaded parliament over Party Gate, in October. If it finds a member of the house has intentionally misled parliament, the member is expected to resign - note the word expected. Exciting days ahead. 1
facthunter Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 Bojo never does what is expected of a reasonable person. The whole Brexit fiasco has been a farce.. I don't believe Cameron expected the vote to be FOR it. The Tories have been riddled by scandals for ages . They never show much discipline. That's for the Lower classes. Nev 2 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted July 7, 2022 Author Posted July 7, 2022 From the BBC news Website: Boris Johnson is to resign as Conservative leader today and make a statement to the country But he plans to continue to serve as prime minister until the autumn to allow a Tory leadership contest to take place in the summer Darn.. what else will there be to complain about! 1
Yenn Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 The conservative party or whatever it is calling itself must be bereft of people with leadership skills if it is going to take that long to find someone to vote in as PM. I wonder what would have happened if Boris had dropped dead? Would it take months to replace him? I doubt it, so why so long now. My theory is that the party is the same as it has been for 70 years. In the 1950s it was useless and took Britain into a war that it could not justify and was really intended to give Israel a crack at controlling the Arabs rather than anything else. That was the Suez crisis and Anthony Eden was the chief clown then. 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted July 8, 2022 Author Posted July 8, 2022 This made be larf.. I pulled it off linkedin.com... 1
onetrack Posted July 11, 2022 Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) Gee, he's a bit animated in his response to BoJo's performance, isn't he? The problem is, you could substitute "Trump" for "BoJo" and the entire flowery, animated, toe-curling description, would also fit Trump perfectly! Edited July 11, 2022 by onetrack 1 1
onetrack Posted July 11, 2022 Posted July 11, 2022 I wonder when they're going to give this Jonathan Pie character a diplomatic post? - preferably, in the diplomacy area dealing with Russia? 1
nomadpete Posted July 11, 2022 Posted July 11, 2022 I got the impression that Mr Pie has become rather disgruntled. I sure wouldn't want to let my grocery trolley to bump his Jaguar in Woollies carpark. 1 1
Marty_d Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 I don't know that being gruntled is any better, when considering the fluffy turd that is Boris.
facthunter Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 The whole Tory bunch are not much better. It's fun and a part time job for most of them. They don't think much beyond that. Nev 2 1
Yenn Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 The conservative party or whatever it is calling itself must be bereft of people with leadership skills if it is going to take that long to find someone to vote in as PM. I wonder what would have happened if Boris had dropped dead? Would it take months to replace him? I doubt it, so why so long now. My theory is that the party is the same as it has been for 70 years. In the 1950s it was useless and took Britain into a war that it could not justify and was really intended to give Israel a crack at controlling the Arabs rather than anything else. That was the Suez crisis and Anthony Eden was the chief clown then. At the moment it is just like our coalition and the Yank Republicans. It has a leader who has won an election and doubts that anyone else in the party could win the next election, so it sticks with the clown it has. 1
facthunter Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 Boris did win an election handsomely. THAT must have had an effect for a while. Apparently He's fun at a party and a good speaker at times. Having purpose propriety and direction is another matter. TA Bot says he got Brexit done. Well is it done? Is everything solved? Nev
onetrack Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 Eventually, I believe that Brexit will prove to have been the right decision, possibly for all the wrong reasons - but it certainly won't be remembered as Boris' crowning achievement, because all his other lack of achievements will crowd out anything he's done, that would be considered worthy.
facthunter Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 Putin welcomed it but he doesn't like Boris at the moment. You can easily drive across 3 nations a day in Europe. The kerfuffle at each border was eliminated People moved easily to take up jobs. The refugees from Syria, Iraq Turkey, Libya etc freaked UK out.. Brexit was a close called result. I doubt if voters had been fully informed of the difficulties the outcome would have been as it was. . It's not fully sorted yet. Nev 1 1
Marty_d Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 I met a couple who lived in Germany, worked in Switzerland and shopped in France. 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted July 14, 2022 Author Posted July 14, 2022 I could take off from Fairoaks (WSW of London) and touch down at Le Touquet airport in 45 minutes.. One of the other shareoplane piots and I did France, Luxembourg (Landing fees!!!), Germany, Swtizerland, and back in a day - in the same PA28 (G-BPIU for anyone interested).. early start, late finish, great day. 1 2
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