red750 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 The Aga Khan, a spiritual leader, philanthropist and one of the world's richest men, has died aged 88. Most often in the public eye thanks to his racehorses, the British citizen was the religious head of the Ismaili sect of Islam, which has as many as 15 million members. He inherited his title from his grandfather in 1957 aged just 20 and is believed by his followers to be 'the bringer of life'. 1
Marty_d Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 hours ago, red750 said: ... is believed by his followers to be 'the bringer of life'. Hmmm. I'm seeing some irony there... 1 2
red750 Posted February 10 Posted February 10 3AW personality Phillip Brady, who retired from his radio program on 2 February, passed away over night. He was aged 85. 1 1
ClintonB Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Heard on radio today that Roberta Flack passed away aged 88, been suffering health issues for a long time. 1
red750 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 WA cricketer and WAFL footballer Keith Slater died 24/2/25 aged 89. 2
onetrack Posted February 26 Author Posted February 26 He was in partnership with another W.A. sportsman, Kevin Gartrell, in a business in Midland, W.A., known as Slater-Gartrell Sports Equipment, now trading as Intersport-Slater-Gartrell. I never met Keith, but I knew his business partner Kevin Gartrell, because he worked for Wigmores Tractors, the W.A. Caterpillar agent, and I dealt with Wigmores a lot in that era. In 1978 Kevin left Wigmores Tractors to start up the sports equipment business, and they've done well since. Kevin is 89 next week. I don't think Keith had played an active role in their business for a number of years, due to ill-health. Kevins son works for Westrac, the Caterpillar dealer formed from the wreckage of Wigmores Tractors, after Alan Bond raped and pillaged Wigmores Tractors for their huge cash reserves, and left them bankrupt. https://slatergartrellsports.com.au/about-us/ 2
red750 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Legendary Hollywood star Gene Hackman and his wife Betsy Arakawa have been found dead in their Santa Fe home. The couple, who had been married since 1991, were found alongside their dog. Local media has reported that no foul play is suspected. Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza did not provide a cause of death, nor did he say when the couple might have died, when asked by local media. It is rumoured to be a murder/suicide. 1 2
red750 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Apparently there was decay and mumification of the bodies indicating they had been there for some time, possibly a couple of weeks. The front door was open but no sign of robbery. Gene was found in a mud room, his wife on the bedroom floor with pills scattered around, and the dog nearby in the ensuite. The dog may have eaten some of the scattered pills. Two other dogs were found alive and well outside. 2
onetrack Posted February 28 Author Posted February 28 The whole scenario reeks of strangeness, and warrants very thorough investigation. Some reports have stated Gene possibly died by falling over. But perhaps he fell over after he was given an overdose. The autopsies will be crucial here. 1
Litespeed Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Seems extremely strange.. Keep in mind we are getting limited info and that will change with time. I am going on fast changing reports from the media. Yes, we have a old 95 year old and 60's wife and pills about. But it seems incongruous how they were found. Both appear to have fallen, with no indication of violence and pills are about. The front door is closed/locked supposedly but doggie door is open and only one of the three dogs has died, but is locked up near the body of the wife in a cupboard apparently. The other two dogs have free roam from out/inside. The bodies appear to be semi mummified and weeks old. At first glance it could seem either a murder/suicide or wife suicides after discovering elderly husband dead after a medical event. Alternatively they have both created a suicide pact due to his health and her great love for him. Other possibilities include something deadly toxic in their immediate environment either accident/negligence or by intention of other parties. But the inconsistent details just seem wrong to support the initial suicide or possible accident. The position of the bodies indicates a sudden fall and incapacity/death is sudden. No feeling bad and finding a seat or slumping to the ground. No opportunity to seek help or a comfortable spot. The sudden death does not seem correct for poisoning/ overdose by medication for either body. Meds that kill instantly and bottled are extremely rare and not normally available as a script. It's possible some heart meds for perfectly well individuals can cause a quick death but unusual to be instant. Even finding the wife on the floor and surrounded by pills does not gel. If you wish to overdose, you would take all the pills, not take just a few and suddenly fall dead and spill the pills. In general any pills take time, they are not instantaneous. If as a couple, so in love you can't live without each other, wouldn't you wish to die holding your loved one? You would not be found in a different area of the house but next to them. If you wished them dead, you would find a comfy spot to end your life, one last drink etc. The dog is dead but the other two are roaming about via doggie door. If you suicide and take your partner and one dog, why not the other two? Did the dog eat some pills and die? Maybe, but it's locked up, who locked it up and why? If you loved the dog and wanted to relieve it's suffering in your suicide, as it's old/sick, why is it locked up, not by your side as you end it all. How does the dog get the pills? Why is it necessary to lock up the 🐕 it can't stop you from taking pills and no injuries indicate a vicious dog that must be detained? If one dog is a problem to be left alive, why not the other two? A gas leak has been speculated but has been tested and so far ruled out. Gas or CO2/CO could explain the sudden deaths. Gene falls dead and wife is feeling unwell and takes her medication in the bathroom, falls unconscious and spills her pills. Plausible but what of the pooch and why has equipment tests excluded gas leakage as cause. It's possible a so far unidentified gas leakage caused their deaths or some other toxic agent that causes sudden incapacity and death. Postmortem results should help but may be complicated by the time since death and the fact some causes of death are far from obvious. It all seems very strange indeed . I am pleased the local police have gone past the suicide assumption and opened a serious suspicious death investigation. My completely untrained sleuth brain says the poor dog is key to the puzzle. So far no indication of robbery is apparent, thus any evidence/motive for malicious intent is yet to be discovered/released. It may all be a simple explanation of unfortunate circumstances and clouded by poor information in the media or it could be a arse covering for a leak etc or malicious intent by other parties. Sounds like a great mystery of a famous actors death, and certain to generate many a theory filled by pod casts and some Netflix doco/ movie. Yes, my fertile mind has been thinking tangentially but an inquisitive brain keeps mental fitness and is fun. A 95 year-old movie star and his 30 year younger wife dying like this is gold to a writer and media. Sadly, even if an accident, I expect the life and death of Gene and Betsy will be exploited for profit and truth will come second to opportunity and money. Hopefully the investigation will be able to satisfy the curious. 1
red750 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Interesting to hear this morning how important Hackman's pacemaket will be to solving some of the questions. They store a lot of detail in addition to pinpointing the exact time of death.
facthunter Posted March 1 Posted March 1 I'm not going to buy one for that. I'll already KNOW I'm DEAD. Nev
red750 Posted March 3 Posted March 3 I've got a bit of an idea what happened to Gene Hackman, as it is very similar to what happened to me, and why I got a pacemeker implanted. However, I don't know why his pacemaker didn't save him. What happened to me was, I came home from shopping, came into the house with the groceries, and ended up on the floor unconcious. I soon regained conscienceness, my daugghter helped me get up and took me straight to the doctors surgery, from where I was admitted to hospital. As was explained by the doctor, my heart beating at 30 bpm was not getting sufficient blood to the brain which caused my collapse. Once my body was horizontal, the blood flow returned to the brain and I woke up. The pacemaker was set to stimulate my heart if the rate fell below 60 bpm. Kind of like the charge from the distributor not making it to the spark plug. 2
facthunter Posted March 3 Posted March 3 A Pacemaker will keep you alive even when by rights you shouldn't be. You often die from lack of oxygen. That MAY comfort you. You are NOT on oxygen are you? . Watch out for these Lurgi's going around. Nev 1
red750 Posted March 3 Posted March 3 7 minutes ago, facthunter said: A Pacemaker will keep you alive even when by rights you shouldn't be. Then, by rights, I should have dies in 2012. You're unlikely to survive cancer for long, either. I have, 11 years tomorrow. 1
facthunter Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Me 2 . I had a big BAD melanoma in 1987. THEY consider a cure to be 5 years. Not really MUCH of a cure Is it? Nev 1
onetrack Posted March 3 Author Posted March 3 At 95, it's entirely possible Gene had a natural death from stroke or total heart failure. Also, when your time is up, your bodys systems just start to fail in a series of cascading events. I watched my 76 yr old stepfather die slowly and steadily over hours in a hospital. He went into hospital, as he got crook due to his emphysema - then he tried to get out of bed unassisted, and fell and broke his leg. They put him back into bed, while they tried to figure out what they could do for him, then he just fell unconscious, then his heart started beating at a massively increased rate, as it tried to keep all the other failing organs going - until his heart finally stopped. His time was up, it was that simple. 4
spacesailor Posted March 3 Posted March 3 I had better keep my mouth shut . Been there, done that , & it seems to have messed with my short-term memory . spacesailor
onetrack Posted March 3 Author Posted March 3 82 years of living is what messes with your short-term memory, Spacey. 1
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