Mythical creatures - or are they?

[onetrack]

The telling part is that there has never ever been found, a skeleton or corpse parts from a Yowie/Bigfoot/Sasquach. If they did exist, something along those lines would been found by now.

I guess the searchers will explain that away by saying the wolves and other predators clean up the corpse completely. But that's not strictly true, as human remains such as bones are found regularly in remote areas.

[red750]

The theory, first proposed by ancient Indian tribes, and gaining acceptance in some scientific quarters, is that the creatures port to another dimension, as if by wormhole, and die there, not on this planet. There was a native American on last night's episode, who said his grandfather told him of the creatures socialising with the tribe and the youngsters having wrestling matches until a child was killed and the socialising ceased. You can laugh off a lot of these legends, but they certainly explain a lot of occurrences the research teams have encountered which are otherwise totally beyond comprehension. For example, creating a heat signature on a thermal camera, but being invisible to the naked eye.

[rgmwa]

2 hours ago, red750 said:

For example, creating a heat signature on a thermal camera, but being invisible to the naked eye.

But you can't see the heat coming off a candle with your naked eye either, Red.

[red750]

No, but you can see the candle burning. Below is a thermal image of an elephant in pitch darkness, invisible to the eye unless you shine a spotlight on it. But you can see a thermal image of these creatures but not see them with a spotlight.

 

[rgmwa]

Yes a candle probably wasn’t the best example as it’s self-illuminating. Maybe a saucepan with a lid on it filled with water would be better. You can’t see the water irrespective of whether the kettle is visible or not so the easiest way to tell from a distance whether the water is hot would be to use a thermal imaging device. However, there’s nothing very mysterious about either an unseen elephant or concealed water. I think the point you were making was that some things could be there but invisible to our normal senses and therefore possibly paranormal. However, I’ll believe that when I see it, or maybe not.

[red750]

Reminds me of the old radio serial, "The Shadow". Cloaks men's minds so they cannot see him.

[rgmwa]

Or ‘the Invisible Man’! I’m pretty sure he would have shown up as blue in the thermal imaging camera.

[pmccarthy]

Now I’m worried about the elephant in the room.

[Bruce Tuncks]

I reckon phones with cameras will have made these things even more elusive than before.

Mobile phones like this have destroyed the UFO craze. Before UFO's, it was religious sightings which were fashionable.

But gosh that doglike animal sure looked like a thylacine.

[spacesailor]

And who has heard of the "moriori " from NZ .

8 feet tall .

spacesailor

[kgwilson]

The Moriori were just Maoris ie Polynesians who settled on the Chatham islands and developed their own culture and language over several centuries. They arrive somewhere between 1000 & 1400 AD. The Maoris nearly wiped them out in the 1800s but they still survive. There are lots of myths about them. None are true.

[red750]

 From Wikipedia:

 

Although the last Moriori of unmixed ancestry, Tommy Solomon, died in 1933, there are several thousand mixed ancestry Moriori alive today.

[spacesailor]

Yes !.

But , do you Ever hear anything about those ' mythical ' Moriori .

The gentle giants.  Is all I heard about them.

spacesailor

[kgwilson]

The Moriori did develop a pacifist culture based on the teachings of one of their leaders in the 16th century which made them easy prey for the war mongering Taranaki Maori who tried to exterminate them during the Musket wars of the early 19th century. They failed to wipe them out though & apparently some 700 or so people identify as Moriori most of which do not live on the Chatham Islands. The "Gentle Giants" nomenclature is a mythical romantic statement probably borne out of the attempted genocide by the Taranaki Maori as they offered little resistance.

[Old Koreelah]

On 03/10/2022 at 3:53 AM, onetrack said:

The telling part is that there has never ever been found, a skeleton or corpse parts from a Yowie/Bigfoot/Sasquach...

A valid argument, OT, but consider how many fossils remains we find of animals believed to number in the millions. They are incredibly rare. 

We are told that there were only a few thousand Neanderthals spread across vast continents.

 

Despite Australia’s appalling extinction record, a few survivors of animals thought long lost have recently been found.

Also, occasionally new species are still being discovered.

 

And another thing (crickey, it must be the beer talking!):

I’ve been involved in lots of searches- mostly for little kids and old farts with dementia. The main lesson is they don’t want to be found and are plurry good at hiding. A couple were found quite close to search HQ, so had evaded quite intensive sweeps. If we miss little kids and old farts in ordinary clothes, what chance for an intelligent, experienced bush creature?

 

[red750]

Many animals have a habit of crawling off to a hiding place to die, such as a cave or rocky overhang. 

 

On 03/10/2022 at 12:53 PM, onetrack said:

there has never ever been found, a skeleton or corpse parts from a Yowie/Bigfoot/Sasquach

A museum in the US has a jawbone very similar to a human jawbone, but is almost twice as large. On the 2020 expedition, the TV series which has just completed, eDNA (environmental DNA) was collected from nests apparently built by a large creature, and from large footprints. When analysed, these revealed DNA strings similar to some monkey species, but there are no monkeys like that in the wild in these areas.

 

Bigfoot nests

 

 

Also commonly found in expeditions into forest areas are large tree structures. These are believed to be territory markers, or navigational aids for migrating bigfoot. As you can see, they are large, and intricately assembled. Not formed by casual falling trees, and requiring intelligent construction, by very strong creatures with opposing thumbs to grip the trees. 

 

Tree structures

 

 

[onetrack]

Well, they have crop circles that are reputedly built by aliens, too - but it's odd how no-one ever interrupts an alien crop-circle-making exercise, and catches them in the act. Humans are responsible for a lot of things that they like to ascribe to strange forces and beings - but at the end of the day, it's the humans who are eventually proved responsible for this odd behaviour.

[facthunter]

That's probably the reason for the claim "Dog works in mysterious ways".  Nev.

[red750]

Watched a program on Foxtel where investigators from America's Bigfoot Field Research Organisation (BFRO) came to the Gold Coast to investigate reported sightings of the Yowie, and visited the Yowie Park at Kilcoy. 

 

Not surprisingly, they did not get a sighting. I was amused by one of the researchers, James (Bobo) Fay, who repeatedly mentioned the word "Crikey". Watched too much Steve Irwin.

 

Bobo Fay.

 

[onetrack]

I think it's comical that the boss of the "Finding Bigfoot" team is named Matt Moneymaker!!  LOL

 

And the bottom line? - after 30 years of "finding Bigfoot", the best they can come up with is 3 blurry B&W photos that could be anything??

I reckon "Bobo" Fay should be renamed "Billy Bob" Fay - and I reckon he hasn't got enough teeth missing, to pose as a real Bigfoot hunter.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finding_Bigfoot

 

https://teamcoco.com/video/finding-bigfoot-s-james-bobo-fay-pt-1-11/13/12

[nomadpete]

Every family has an occassional genetic throwback.

[rgmwa]

46 minutes ago, onetrack said:

I think it's comical that the boss of the "Finding Bigfoot" team is named Matt Moneymaker!!  

Probably the most believable part of the show.

[onetrack]

1 hour ago, nomadpete said:

Every family has an occasional genetic throwback.

Even if the Tasmanians do have a few more than the mainland .... 

[nomadpete]

Where do you think that famous saying came from ???

 

Two heads are better than one !

Edited January 17, 2023 by nomadpete

[facthunter]

We never asked the flighty's to do a headcount out of Tassie. It was Bums in seats.. Nev