The politics of Jesus

[Bruce Tuncks]

There is a wonderful pic of the earth as a "pale blue dot" and a wonderful writeup from Carl Sagan. We sure are alone .

The distance to the next dot is just enormous.

[facthunter]

You have to pay for the Franchise, Gatekeeper, Lobbyist  Nev

[old man emu]

On 08/04/2023 at 8:43 AM, nomadpete said:

Related to the politics of Jesus.....

The stories portray him as a humble bloke who didn't care much for profiteering in houses of worship.

 

So this like is relevant. Do you believe it is fair for church businesses to be tax free?

 

https://www.change.org/p/stop-the-tax-free-status-of-churches-in-australia?source_location=search

Last night I watched a 4 Corners program via IView ABC. It dealt with a group of schools for children of the Catholic faith. The schools have intimate links with the organization known as Opus Dei. Opus Dei is an international lay Catholic group whose core ideal is the sanctification of work. But critics and some former members have accused the group of having cult-like practices and promoting a right-wing agenda. 

 

What was reported in that broadcast sickened me, and I have cast iron guts. Having been educated in a Catholic school, and a Christian Bothers' one at that, what I heard from the former students made me think that my education was gained under a radical, Leftist, hedonistic regime. What these former students related was the worst kind of psychological child abuse. You have to watch the report to hear what they were subjected to.

 

This link takes you to a precis of the 4 Corners report : https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-15/purity:-an-education-in-opus-dei/101979020  but what is in the precis is the mildest of the material presented. Take the time to watch the program. It's shocking. 

 

You'll notice that I have highlighted some words. Fact or Fiction? Well, the former Premier of NSW, Dominic PERROTTET, is a former student, as are his siblings and all their children. His parents were amongst the founders of the four associated schools in Sydney.  And coming back to Nomadpete's link, these schools are being funded to the tune of ten's of millions. At least, once again, the ABC has lifted the lid on another Conservative nightsoil can. 

 

 

 

 

[facthunter]

Not WHAT you know. It's WHO you know. Inherent Privilege. IF one religion can have it How do you stop others claiming equal privileges? Religion DIVIDES. How many HELLISH things are done in the name of some god or other?  There's plenty of examples of theocracies.Just who would like to live like that? The worst form of tyranny that can't be questioned because some imaginary dog albitey is involved. Nev

[Old Koreelah]

3 hours ago, old man emu said:

…once again, the ABC has lifted the lid on another Conservative nightsoil can. 

- Another reason to legislate secure, long term funding for Auntie, before the conservatives run it into the ground.

Don’t scoff, that’s the agenda of Murdoch and his Liberal supporters.

 

[facthunter]

Always PARANOID about "Auntie",  Yet none of the others commit to Truth telling. . . Nev

[Old Koreelah]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Always PARANOID about "Auntie"…

Who, me? 
Just because I’m paranoid, doesn’t mean the bastards aren’t out to get me!

[facthunter]

No You're OK, OK. OK?  ( In my view.) Nev

[Old Koreelah]

 

If you’re sick of this madness (which is also well entrenched in Australia):

 

…then you could sign this petition:
https://chng.it/wcz4hmcWHt

[nomadpete]

Already signed. And they don't allow me to sign more than once!

[Old Koreelah]

1 hour ago, nomadpete said:

Already signed. And they don't allow me to sign more than once!

Change.org has higher ethical standards than some of those churches!

[Bruce Tuncks]

If god doesn't like it, he can easily magic up some money for their safes. Maybe not money but gold or bitcoins?

[facthunter]

It's not money for souls it's for R soles..   Nev

[facthunter]

They will get "theirs" if there REALLY IS a DOG allbitey.. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Maybe, or maybe he is so sick of them sponging off his name, they will get something they were not hoping to get..

[facthunter]

Surely GOD KNOWS everything if HE's any  sort of god at all, and would be difficult to fool. The ONE WE made in our image isn't going to cut it.... Nev

[Bruce Tuncks]

They made him too powerful. This power is just not logical....  for example, being all-powerful makes him responsible for all sorts of things.

The same is true for the superman character from the comics. Mind you, I have spent time daydreaming about just what I'd like to do with super-powers. One thing i'd like to do would be to attend one of those islamic courts where they were throwing accused homosexuals off a flat roof. I'd throw a few judges and guards off instead.

[Old Koreelah]

You talking about these deep thinkers?

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Same could be said about war.. or special military operations

[octave]

On 10/04/2023 at 7:47 AM, Bruce Tuncks said:

There is a wonderful pic of the earth as a "pale blue dot" and a wonderful writeup from Carl Sagan. We sure are alone .

The distance to the next dot is just enormous.

 

New Nasa director swears oath on Carl Sagan’s ‘Pale Blue Dot’ instead of Bible

[facthunter]

It's SOMETHING  rare and beautiful you know is there at the moment. NO religion should oppose that. Paradise? 70 Virgins? excluding non believers?  None of that helps. Karl Sagan took science to the Masses.  Nev

[Marty_d]

2 hours ago, octave said:

 

New Nasa director swears oath on Carl Sagan’s ‘Pale Blue Dot’ instead of Bible

Why wouldn't she - Sagan makes a lot more sense than the bunch of camel-shaggers that wrote the bible.

[nomadpete]

World leaders should take a long look at the 'Pale Blue Dot' pic before they are allowed to start a war.

 

That, combined with a good naughty the night before thinking about an invasion, might make Earth a nicer place to live.

[facthunter]

Don't you know how babies are made?   That's what causes it.  Nev

[Old Koreelah]

13 hours ago, Marty_d said:

Why wouldn't she - Sagan makes a lot more sense than the bunch of camel-shaggers that wrote the bible.