Further Effects of "The Voice" debate

[red750]

Here are the posters in question. YES poster front and back, AEC poster between.

 

[spacesailor]

I also have Never seen , a TV commercial showing the NO vote , as an equal bias " how to vote " Adverts . ARE they " AEC " Commercial that are illegally biased. 

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[red750]

I've seen dozens of YES ads, Johnny Farnham, various activists, Albonese, etc. Only saw one NO ad, no Clive ads.

[facthunter]

"NO CLIVE" adds would be welcomed.   Nev

[pmccarthy]

ABC is 100% yes. No balanced reporting at all. Same with the Age.

[spenaroo]

3 minutes ago, pmccarthy said:

ABC is 100% yes. No balanced reporting at all. Same with the Age.

ABC staff would riot if they supported No

[facthunter]

I don't find they are. Perhaps compared with SKY they are. But they are relentlessly NO and anti ABC. SKY is sick.   Nev

[Marty_d]

Just heard a Clive ad on the radio.

What's in it for him either way?

[octave]

I listen to a lot of ABC radio and I have heard interviews with all the leading Yes and No people.    Insiders alternate their guests. Last week was an interview with Warren Mundine. This is a hell of a lot more balanced than Sky News or News corp.  

 

 

[facthunter]

  LARGE Clive just likes to neutralize anything Labor. . Can't help the HATE.  Nev

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[octave]

Imagine if Sky News had to account for the balance of their content.

 

ABC, battered by criticism, tracks Voice coverage down to the second

[octave]

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

20 hours ago, nomadpete said:

BTW almost every YES placard I see is mass printed and has the AEC logo on it, implying approval by the AEC, and implying significant funding. Also almost every NO placard I see is hand made, implying these are a genuine personal opinion.

Surely, you jest.

 

To add to Octaves search, just look ath the No Vote merch and posters:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=571003301&sxsrf=AM9HkKnXOCtGAlapQbQGFgcWRmgykIb4MQ:1696536623071&q=voice+vote+no+posters&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwinv5C229-BAxXL9bsIHf2vC5EQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=1600&bih=773&dpr=1.2#imgrc=DWt854MYK6PYNM

 

 

[facthunter]

SEAT warmer? Too Right. That's "DAZZLING" DAN Tehan. From Malcolm Frazer's old seat of Wannon. What is that electorate thinking of??    Nev

[old man emu]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

What is that electorate thinking of?? 

A return of the Squattocracy.

[facthunter]

Frazer squatted on a Bultaco, occasionally and had a brain. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Here is an informative video of the Voice:

 

 

[spacesailor]

A ' bad ' referendum, 

To devide & conquer. 

Will the Hamas scuffle " hide ' the voice until it's all over .

Note . ' The NO voter's ' are saying to take a pen to the voting station , Not to use Their pencil  ..

spacesailor

 

[octave]

10 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

Not to use Their pencil  ..

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Paranoid Trumpian BS.  I would like to respect all no voters but there seems to be some crazy people out there

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-09/voice-referendum-cross-of-remembrance-vandalised-victor-harbor/102950232

 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

24 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

To devide & conquer. 

Care to elaborte? Like most No campaigners, it is easy to allege things but so far harder to substantiate them, but I am all ears as to how a Voice will divide and conquer..

 

 

 

[old man emu]

Are the stories of massacres of Aborigines in Queensland fact or fiction?

 

This bloke found the monsters in his ancestry

 

 
David Marr was shocked to discover his forebears served with the Native Police, the most brutal force in Australian history. Killing for Country is the result – a personal history of the Frontier Wars.  It is the story of a colonial family that seized hundreds of thousands of acres of land and led Aboriginal troopers into bloody massacres in the most violent years of the Native Police.  Killing for Country is a unique history of the making of Australia – a richly detailed and gripping family saga of fortunes made and lost, of politics and power in the colonial world, and the violence let loose by squatters and their London bankers as they began their long war for the possession of this country – a contest still unresolved in today's Australia.

 

Listen to this podcast https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/conversations/david-marr-native-police-frontier-wars-colonial-australia/102882172

[facthunter]

The Boss and I voted today. Lots of Vote NO people with how to vote info. The whole thing seemed pretty busy. Run by the AEC.  Nev

[spacesailor]

" divide and Conquer "

English strategy to subdue India. 

Imagine the whole of the Indian continent,  it would probably have been a first rate economic Country now . Poor Bangladesh didn't get a lot of ' good ' land to sustain itself. 

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[Jerry_Atrick]

OK.. And how does the Voice do that, though? In other word, what about the Voice is going to enable that to happen?

 

 

(I would say that has been Dutton et al's modus operandi on this one, though all the BS he and he meery campaigners have spewed out...)

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[old man emu]

When you look back over the past few months at the topic within the Public sphere, there hasn't been anything that one would categorise as a "debate".  It has simply been an expansion of the current standard of parliamentary Question Time where what ever one side says, the other decries. 

 

The only independent source of information regarding the amendment has come from the AEC, but since that is a body established by Parliament, everybody ignores it, or alleges bias. Dutton has depicted the Conservative side of Politics as the whingy, whiny, four-eyed sissy of the playground. Albo has depicted Labor as the Good Samaritans, caring for the same downtrodden that his Party's predecessors consistently ignored in their own struggles to right the wrongs of the Conservatives.

 

Looking at the proposed wording of the amendment, it appears pretty innocuous to me. In fact, it looks a lot better for Aborigines than any treaty, which experience elsewhere has shown us always end up screwing the natives. At least something in the Constitution cannot be ignored. 

 

Based on that assessment, I think I'll vote "Yes". Thereafter, if the whole thing gets stuffed up, we can shoot the blame home directly to the parliamentarians whose job it is to create functional legislation. At least come some future election, if they do stuff it up, we can punish them by withholding our support of the Party that stuffed it.