Footy

[Jerry_Atrick]

Yeah... theHawks came good when they weren't supposed too.. and there were others that also flipped their form in the second half of the season.

 

In the end, it only cost me £50, but if I measure the losses like trading desks do, it cost me over £350 as it was around there that my peak profit was.

 

I am never sure I will bet one season to the next. I don't have time to follow the form of all clubs, so I wait ans see for the first 3 or 4 rounds before I make my mind up. If I can't see clear patterns (no matter how unreliable they can be), I just enjoy the game.

[Litespeed]

A sucker and his money are easily departed...

 

A smart sucker has a system to loose his 💰 

 

A sophisticated sucker tells all his forum mates, then looses his 💰.

 

A addicted sucker will modify his system this year and loose more money than last year.

[spacesailor]

A sucker with a conscience!,

Will, win " houses with cars & bullion, " while thinking he's donating to charity. .

Or , a nice new aeroplane , 

spacesailor

 

[facthunter]

Most gamblers only tell of their winnings. THE LOSERS GAMBLE MORE TO TRY TO RECOVER THEIR LOSSES.  Nev

[pmccarthy]

All power to the Anti Football League!

[facthunter]

 Didn't a Melb. Dunstan run that?  Nev

[pmccarthy]

Yes he did, sadly I haven’t heard of it since he passed away.

[rgmwa]

6 hours ago, facthunter said:

 Didn't a Melb. Dunstan run that?  Nev

Keith Dunstan started it in 1967

[facthunter]

2 years after I moved to VIC.  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Well, it's the beginning of round 3 of the AFL season, and this is another seaosn I will be sitting out of the betting.. There are two teams I would consistently bet against, but so far, none I would consistently bet for. If I see odds that are clearly misaligned to the teams playing, I may go for a single £5 bet, but thus far, I am just going to enjoiy the game.

[facthunter]

I'm a Foundation Member of the AFL. (ANTI Football League). It's like a Cult Religion. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

That's fair enough.. I am in the same organisation with respect to the English Premier League over here.

 

Well, I did see what I thought was a mispriced game today. My beloved Hawks were at £1.53 and Greater Western Sydney were at £2.40. Yes, the game was to be played in Tassie, which is sort of a cauldron for the Hawks. But, GWS was at full strength with their list, and it is an ominous one. The Hawks have only one key position forward - Marbor Chol, who is at best, B grade - otherwise they only had smalls. So, down two key position forwards due to injury. a key midfielder out also due to injury., and a running defender out on a suspension, on paper, GWS had the firepower to beat the Hawks.

 

However, I was stuck on this refurb (more about the room I am working on later, suffice to say there is barely a patch of the walls that doesnt have filler, and there was an emergency plastering job required), and combined with not really caring too much about the betting this year, decided I had better things to do with my time.

 

Well, at the end of the first quarter, GWS up by 30 something points, with the Hawks having only scored a solitary point. I got the score of the AFL website.. and I have to say, at that time, I was kicking myself for not putting a bet on. As it turned out, there was a hooley of a wind blowing straight to one goal.. The Hawks ended up winning by 2 goals in the end, and with a lot of wayward shorts at goal, it probably should have been a lot more.

 

Thankfully I didn't put the bet on.

[old man emu]

There's more to betting on football than analysing the player list, especially in a game like Rules where ball movement is through the air most of the time.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Some good news amongst the sea of unnecessary ship going on at the moment: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tom-hawkins-turns-his-home-town-side-from-170-point-losers-to-winners-within-a-week-20250417-p5lsmd.html

 

It is great to see, what is a recently retired AFL superstar return to his roots at Finley, which is  town about 20 kms north of the NSW/Vic border on the Newell highway. He has moved back there with his wife who heralds from Deniliquin (Peter's old stomping ground for a while). Great to see him playing with his local footy club and giving them an injection of talent the deperately need.

 

The NSW Riverina has produced some great AFL dynasties, including the Danniher's who, as I recall, are from the West Wyalong area. Finley, which is a small and possibly deteriorating town have the Hawkins dynasty (well, two generations); And it also produced Shane Crawford, the Hawthorn champion. Others from the area include John Longmire, the troubled Wayne Carey, Paul Kelly (the footballer, not the muso), and quite a few others.

 

But most, as I understand, end up in the big smoke, or some fancier rural destinations. Great to see Tom "Tomahawk" Hawkins return to his roots.

 

 

[facthunter]

Finley would be a good place to come from. In 60 a mate of mine, Jim Perry was posted there as Headmaster of a One Teacher school, straight out of Newcastle Teachers College.

 Is calling Cities "the Big Smoke," appropriate these days?  Delhi and Beijing are I suppose, Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

7 hours ago, facthunter said:

Is calling Cities "the Big Smoke," appropriate these days? 

I don't know, tbh... See lots of industry and diesel fumes out of trucks in the city, still...

 

Beijing probably has less pollution per capita in their cities as a lot of the cars are now electric: https://www.statista.com/statistics/690823/china-annual-pm25-particle-levels-beijing/

 

 

[facthunter]

I don't see many trucks blowing smoke these days. Beijing is noted for pollution.   Nev

[old man emu]

1 hour ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Beijing probably has less pollution per capita in their cities as a lot of the cars are now electric

Statistics can trick you, especially when you are dividing one number by another. If the pollution remains the same, but the population increases, the per capita number comes down. 

 

I thought that natural atmospheric conditions exacerbated the industrial pollution in Beijing. Isn't the area subject to inversions which prevent the pollution from blowing away?

[facthunter]

Possibly. They closed the Local Industries for days when the Olympics were held and a Mate of mine used to fly into there regularly a while back. Pollution per capita?  Funny way to measure an outcome. That could make Delhi look OK too.  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

10 hours ago, facthunter said:

Pollution per capita?  Funny way to measure an outcome.

As I was typing it, I was thinking a strange way, too. But the reality is, most of the pollution in these indexes in comprised of "made made" pollution to service people. The stats I presented above were not per capita, but per micrograms per cubic metre of air.  In terms of what can reasonably be done given population density and the desire for modern accoutrements, industry, and natural features of the local environment inhibiting disbursing the pollution. It can also drive policy in remediating the air pollution levels in different ways to a sparser populated area that may have higher levels of pollution per capita. But, yeah, it's not  by itself terribly useful in terms of how much pollutants everyone is breathing in at a particular time.

[old man emu]

Clearly (?) the reasonable way to report pollutants in the air is by weight/unit volume. That is the Gross value. It's made up of 'fine' particles < 2.5um and 'coarse' particles <10um. The Greek letter mu (μ) represents the SI prefix "micro", which denotes a factor of 10-6 (one millionth). So those measurement units are millionths of a metre.

[facthunter]

By visibility is the easiest and a general analysis. Nev