Australian Literature

[facthunter]

Sometimes you have to when there's no one else around and you just can't let it go or something will be damaged.. Nev 

[spacesailor]

Who else lift's the heavy load if the ' old man ' isn't there .

As for no ' jury duty ' I didn't know & I didn't miss , not not getting it .

GOOD ! , NOW TO GET OFF THE  COPULSARY ,

' electoral roll ' .

As for that 70 years, add ten , and go back to FOUR , English , score years .

I,m only FOUR SCORE ! & it sounds better than eighty !.

spacesailor

[facthunter]

IF you score at all you are lucky.  Didn't Methuselah live 900 years. Nev

[spacesailor]

Wasn't he a Turtle! .  Or  was that Donatella,  Raphael,  Michael &  Leonardo! .

As they live llong & procreative.   LoL

spacesailor

[Bruce Tuncks]

I NEVER had to do jury duty....  I reckon I would have liked it compared to working.

[Bruce Tuncks]

Sammy Davis said " but who calls that living

                                 When no gal will give in

                                 To no man whats 900 years"

[spacesailor]

It's not that good !.

They say, lunch provided .

Stale sandwich with a bottle of water , I don't expect those lawyers would like that .

Then catch the train home, in the pouring rain .

spacesailor

[old man emu]

Jury duty selection: For many are called, but few are chosen. Matthew 22:14

[facthunter]

Some Jobs are excluded. I've never done Jury duty.   I have been asked to appear as a witness for the Prosecution and the judge commented I was the only RELIABLE witness there. All my costs were covered. A rare case of something nice happening and justice being done.   nev

[Bruce Tuncks]

good onyer nev, i'd like more of the story please.

[facthunter]

I was just behind a Holden HR waggon driven by an old couple going very slow that had a head on with another  car full of inebriated people This happened about 2200 hrs. I got the oldies out through the missing windscreen. The other car had lost the RH front wheel and some of the suspension which had gone under my car and removed the throttle linkage. The long and the short of it is I went back next day and measured the gouge marks in the road surface. Must be my sixth sense again. When it came to Court the cops hadn't done anything like that  or do any checking and this guy turned up with a top lawyer alleging the HR was on the wrong side of the road at point of impact and had caused the accident and they nearly got away with it. The local Constable( who I knew) had approached me when he saw my name on the report. There were no assumptions made or anything asked for  But I was the ONLY independent witness anyhow. Nev

[Bruce Tuncks]

Good onyer Nev. Getting back to Australian literature, I have to say that I just love the Banjo's stuff. I can recite the man from ironbark and Mulga bill's bicycle and bits of the man from snowy river.

There days I live not that far from Penola and where the poet Nielsen came from, but I don't reckon he was as good.

[old man emu]

I was doing a bit of Butler history research this morning and found this gem of Australian poetic interplay.

 

 

Heenzo was invented by a New Zealand pharmacist and was very popular, probably up until the 1950 when the international corporations like Nyall invaded to local over-the-counter medicine market. The Arthur Butler connection with HEENZO is that in 1921 it was bought by the head of the Garling family. Arthur Butler married Doris Garling, a next generation relative of the owner of HEENZO. After Arthur and Doris were married in 1931, the Australian agent for de Haviland lent Arthur a Puss Moth to use in barnstorming. To pay for operating costs, Arthur sold the under-wing space to HEENZO , and the flew the plane all over the place with that word written in huge letters that could be seen from the ground.

[facthunter]

There's another Called HYPOL. . Advertising on the Plane itself was not permitted at least at some periods of tjme. Here in Oz. Nev

[spacesailor]

Oops. ! .

Who hasn't got their engine make on their airframe .

Or even the manufacturers name , prommitly emblazoned for the world to see .

Or even " built & piloted by ME " .

Is it Not aerial advertising. 

spacesailor

[old man emu]

3 hours ago, facthunter said:

Advertising on the Plane itself was not permitted at least at some periods of tjme. Here in Oz.

The Civil Aviation Branch of the Department of Defence was promulgated on 16 December 1920 and became operational on 28 March 1921. Can you imagine the effort involved in setting up a government department from scratch while at the same time trying to figure out what advice to give to parliament as it was framing the Air Navigation Act, which was passed on 2 December 1920 and became law in June 1921.

 

So when Arthur was advertising HEENZO from the air in 1931, the Branch was still struggling with all sorts of administrative matters, so a lone plane flying around country NSW displaying the name of an already popular product would hardly have been on the top of its hit list.

[spacesailor]

And that " popular " engine , advertised on an aircraft . .

IS IT NOT,,,,  illegal   !

spacesailor

[onetrack]

In 1929, the German Consul to W.A., Hermann Christian Ittershagen, imported a German-built Klemm L25-1 monoplane for his business activities. Ittershagen was the Lanz tractor agent for W.A. and claimed he was going to train up 8 pilots to fly the Klemm, to assist in providing parts and service for his Lanz tractors to farmers that were located in distant areas of W.A. that would normally be handicapped by slow delivery of tractor parts and service.

 

Ittershagen was also the local agent for Mercedes-Benz trucks. He only learnt to fly in 1930 at the age of 58.

This aircraft was regularly flown by Capt Harry "Cannonball" Baker, a flamboyant pilot of some renown. Ittershagen founded the "Aerial Commerce Company" in West Subiaco, and made good money carrying out joyflights and other aerial services.

 

The little Klemm proudly advertised "Lanz Tractors" on the fuselage. Unfortunately, the little Klemm suffered serious wingtip damage when it hit spectators on takeoff at West Subiaco on 25/06/1932, and was never officially or legally repaired.

 

However, in 1940, an aviation enthusiast apparently purchased the aircraft, repaired it without official oversight, and flew it for some 200 hrs before it was discovered the owner had no pilots licence, and was totally ignorant of any aviation regulations!

The aircraft then disappeared, and there is no record of what happened to it - but apparently a wheel from the aircraft showed up in a local rubbish tip in 1958.

 

Ittershagen and his Aerial Commerce Co were badly hit by the Great Depression, and along with increasing anti-German sentiment, his company folded, and Ittershagen died in 1940.

 

https://purl.slwa.wa.gov.au/slwa_b1920207_1

 

https://catalogue.slwa.wa.gov.au/record=b1920207~S6

[old man emu]

Australian aviation history has for too long focused on the early, celebrity, distance record setters, and not on the people who toiled away on home ground to establish civil aviation. That does also include those responsible for government administration of civil aviation from 1920  to 1940. Often those people gained their  aviation experience in the skies above the Western Front or Middle Eastern desert.

 

How many know that as soon as it began to function under the Air Navigation Act in June 1921, the Government decided to establish air mail services operated by contractors between

1. Geraldton & Derby
2. Adelaide & Sydney
3. Sydney & Brisbane
4. Charleville and Cloncurry

Have a look at those routes and you'll see they were the means by which several well-known companies got their start. For my part, I know that Arthur Butler got his start as a ground engineer located at Hay on the Adelaide to Sydney route. Charleville to Cloncurry spawned QANTAS, and was it Miller who did the Geraldton to Derby service? It would appear that the Sydney to Melbourne route was well-established by the rail system, as well as being relatively close together with little advantage in using aircraft to cut delivery times. In fact Arthur Butler's book Flying Start - The story of the first five decades of Civil Aviation in Australia has a photograph taken from a DH 50 mailplane unable to overtake the South-West mail train headed for Narrandera because the headwind made the aircraft's groundspeed match the train's. 

[onetrack]

Norman Brearley was the winner of the tender for the Geraldton to Derby Air service in December 1921, with his Western Australian Airways - and he holds the title of the first Australian air service in operation, beating Qantas by several months.

 

https://thewest.com.au/news/mid-west/the-day-geraldton-soared-into-history-ng-ya-341041

[facthunter]

Mac Robertson-Miller was the WA Airline (I think) in my early days but most of these got taken Over by Ansett. East West Airlines featured in NSW. Ansett ran the Sydney Lord Howe Island run  Qantas ran internal PNG routes with Junkers monoplanes and both TAA and Ansett had "Royal Mail" signs near the front door of their planes Post war. . Eddie Connellans route coverage equalled that of BEA. (British European Airways) operating in the NT mostly.  Nev.

[Old Koreelah]

4 hours ago, onetrack said:

In 1929, the German Consul to W.A., Hermann Christian Ittershagen, imported a German-built Klemm L25-1 monoplane for his business activities. Ittershagen was the Lanz tractor agent…

I have a full-colour Lanz sign, about 400 square, made from sheet metal.

Big single-cylinder engine with a ruddy great belt-drive pully hanging out the side.

[onetrack]

The old Lanz Bulldogs with their hot-bulb, 2 stroke, single cylinder horizontal engine, were a very popular tractor here, they have a big following amongst the vintage tractor restorers.

 

The comical part about them is pulling the steering wheel and steering shaft out, to hook into the flywheel to start them. They would often bog themselves in soft ground with shaking, if left idling too long in the one spot.

[facthunter]

They just rock back and forth and slowly sink into soft ground. The early 2 cyl John Deere was a strange thing too.  Nev

[Old Koreelah]

13 hours ago, onetrack said:

The old Lanz Bulldogs with their hot-bulb, 2 stroke, single cylinder horizontal engine, were a very popular tractor here, they have a big following amongst the vintage tractor restorers.

 

The comical part about them is pulling the steering wheel and steering shaft out, to hook into the flywheel to start them. They would often bog themselves in soft ground with shaking, if left idling too long in the one spot.