dutchroll Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 The LNP dumped Turnbull because he wasn't "conservative" enough for their extreme right wing internal party power brokers, but look where that has got them. The Australian electorate historically doesn't like either left or right extremes of politics - the simple reason being that both extremes are essentially batsh*t crazy and Abbott falls squarely into one of those extremes. Their only choice is to replace him with a more moderate leader of which there are, of their own doing, probably only two or three to choose from (a return to Turnbull being one of them).
fly_tornado Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 I would have thought dropping Abbott after losing in 2010 would have been the smart move. I mean how many Rudds do you get in life and still lose and get to keep your job?
facthunter Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 THEY hate Turnbull. They might even choose to lose rather than have him as leader. Nev
fly_tornado Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 People forget what a disaster Turnbull was as leader of the republican movement and as opposition leader. He has done a right royal job of screwing up the NBN.
Teckair Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 The copayment was an idea to try to cut costs and it was dumped after consultation meaning they listened to the people, wind farms are not cost effective. When you've got a national leader who is only held in check by a couple of sane Cabinet Ministers like Turnbull or Bishop, things are getting deeply troubling and yes, that amounts to a problem governing the country. You actually know this? or this is what you think? which once again would be making up facts. You could not claim to be an unbiased observer.
Teckair Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Don't remember much about the ABC Teck,. . .been too long away, but I guess they might just have seen, over the years, a useful role model in our Lying, agenda - driven, open door immigration supporting, indiginous population suppressing BBC. The ABC is the same deal I think, of course all the LWLs think the ABC is great.
Marty_d Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Both parties are afraid of changing leaders now, after the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd fiasco. Therefore the good ship Australia will chug sluggishly up to the next election with two cabin boys contesting for the captain's chair.
Marty_d Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 The ABC is the same deal I think, of course all the LWLs think the ABC is great. Can I just translate for Teckair, he means "of course the majority of normal people think the ABC is great." (LWL must stand for "Likeable Witty Lads/Ladies", I guess).
Teckair Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 You watch this space and observe what the next Federal budget deficit is! I fully expect it to get worse as we are borrowing money just to pay our interest, which is the same as paying a credit card off with another one.
Teckair Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 THEY hate Turnbull. They might even choose to lose rather than have him as leader. Nev The problems with Turnbull include, he thinks the carbon tax is a good idea and his connection Goldman Sachs.
Teckair Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Can I just translate for Teckair, he means "of course the majority of normal people think the ABC is great." (LWL must stand for "Likeable Witty Lads/Ladies", I guess). More making up facts.
Teckair Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Looks like people are still reading Murky's papers. Nev Yeah that's what is the big problem.
Old Koreelah Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 THEY hate Turnbull. They might even choose to lose rather than have him as leader. Nev The same applied to the ALP but they went back to Rudd.
Teckair Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 teck air googlealan jones fined or alan jones london arrest perpetually massaging the truth to keep people like you listening to his rubbish https://theconversation.com/a-very-naughty-parrot-acma-sends-alan-jones-back-to-school-10212 More crap you guys never give up, googled both of those and nothing about climate denial, just more making up facts again. I have never listened to Alan Jones as far as I know he is not broadcast in this area.
Marty_d Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/alan-jones-comments-on-un-climate-change-report-inaccurate-media-watchdog-20150710-gi9fqi.html
fly_tornado Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 The hardest part for Murdoch is finding a path to maintain influence http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/foxtel-customers-angered-by-ads-against-samesex-marriage-20150809-givarl.html
facthunter Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Turnbull was only acting on the current (at the time)policy of the coalition on emissions trading. Minchen Bernardi pulled a coup and Abbott got in by ONE vote. Hardly a reassuring Margin and NOW they don't know how to get rid of him, and they sure would like to. He's the gift that keeps on giving... Good one LNP..Nev
facthunter Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 The Ill named AUSTRALIAN is his big gun. Nev
fly_tornado Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Since the Australian instituted the paywall the influence of the paper is in sharp decline, all the murdoch papers are in decline and the paywall is contributing to the decline. Its a catch22, can't charge for content but can't give it away.
Teckair Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Jones has been prosecuted as a climate denier http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/alan-jones-comments-on-un-climate-change-report-inaccurate-media-watchdog-20150710-gi9fqi.html Pure BS where does it say he was prosecuted? More making up facts.
Marty_d Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Depends on FT's definition of the word "prosecuted". I didn't take it to be "prosecuted in a court of law" because denying climate change is not criminal, just stupid/ignorant.
fly_tornado Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2015/05/21/2gbs-alan-jones-sent-love-letters-to-a-school-boy-why-has-he-never-been-charged-with-grooming/
Teckair Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Depends on FT's definition of the word "prosecuted". I didn't take it to be "prosecuted in a court of law" because denying climate change is not criminal, just stupid/ignorant. Oh now I understand you mean 'changing the definition of words' to suit yourself. The whole 'climate change' thing is silly, of course the climate will change what else would you expect? What a great way to make money, create a tax based on climate change which will happen no matter what. What is not clear is what the cause is but what is clear is how much effect this country has compared to the rest of the world.
fly_tornado Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 acma prosecuted jones, it happened and jones was forced to go to fact checking school. Its the problem with the right wing in Australia, living in la la land
Marty_d Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 What is not clear is what the cause is Yep, those 99.9% of respected scientists who reckon the climate is changing because of human activity have absolutely no idea. Let's trust shock jocks and right wing politicians instead.
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