fly_tornado Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I don't think tidal and wave technology can compete against wind. Its got great potential but the wind technology has evolved fairly quickly due to the large number of aerospace companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Has evolved into what? What has been built in recent years is all the same concept and it appears it will never be commercially viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Supposed to be most viable at the moment with solar gaining up on it. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 LWLs do not understand or care what is viable or not. The reason we have coal is the only other option is nuclear at the moment. What size battery do you think it would take to run your average city over night? It would not be practical to run a single shopping center with batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 What's an LWL.? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherk Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 What's an LWL.? Nev probably a moron.....err..oxymoron.........Left Wing Liberal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I think Liberals are extinct here. (In this country) Discuss? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Someone who reckons it is Abbott's fault coal-fired powered power stations exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yep what we have here is mindless Abbott bashing. Teck I must respectfully disagree. When people wake up to just how bad this government is there will be hell to pay- but by then the damage will be done, and an incoming Labor government (assuming Shorten develops some gumption) will have to pay huge compensation to undo the dodgy deals Abbott's team have done. A Royal Commission into Abbott's Direct Action policy will show it to be a totally corrupt way to give our money to LNP donors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M61A1 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Some food for thought.... http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/google-engineers-explain-why-they-stopped-rd-in-renewable-energy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M61A1 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Teck I must respectfully disagree. When people wake up to just how bad this government is there will be hell to pay- but by then the damage will be done, and an incoming Labor government (assuming Shorten develops some gumption) will have to pay huge compensation to undo the dodgy deals Abbott's team have done. A Royal Commission into Abbott's Direct Action policy will show it to be a totally corrupt way to give our money to LNP donors. It would have to be a lot worse before it was as bad as Labour was in their last term. (not suggesting they're great, just "least worst") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It would have to be a lot worse before it was as bad as Labour was in their last term. (not suggesting they're great, just "least worst") We could argue that till the cows come home, but by most measures Gillard's was a far more successful government than Abbott's has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 These political threads are a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchroll Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It would have to be a lot worse before it was as bad as Labour was in their last term. (not suggesting they're great, just "least worst") They're bad in different ways. My view is that Gillard/Rudd was certainly dysfunctional and that brings with it huge uncertainty. Even businesses who are traditionally antagonistic to Labor-style policies would "wear it" if they at least had some 100% certainty as to which road that Government was going down and could implement strategies to just deal with it. However my view of Abbott is that he's so deeply trapped in a far-right conservative ideological straightjacket that his thinking and decision-making processes have become pretty much irrational. Most good Governments have a significant degree of pragmatism despite their ideological leanings. Even Howard in his earlier years was fairly pragmatic despite having staunchly conservative views, though he veered way off this course in his last term and this was why he got roundly thrashed at the ballot box. Hawke too was pragmatic despite his union-leaning bent. The wages accord was signed, the dollar was floated, and a raft of free-market reforms were undertaken. Abbott is none of these. Let's get that fact straight to start with. He opens his mouth before he engages his brain and what comes out of it is pure far-right conservative in ideology. There is absolutely nothing "moderate" about him. These political threads are a waste of time. Posting that a political thread in the "off topic" section in the "other forums" threads is a waste of time, is a waste of time. Trying to argue scientific facts with people who have decided they're simply not going to accept them irrespective of the volume of evidence available is also, I concede, a waste of time. But it filled in a boring 24 hour slip away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coljones Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 https://video-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xta1/v/t43.1792-2/10810757_716712865090013_526841646_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjE1MDAsInJsYSI6NDA5Nn0%3D&rl=1500&vabr=726&oh=895bfd2542684170b0458338663db6e2&oe=55CDDD17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marty_d Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yep what we have here is mindless Abbott bashing. It's not our fault he's mindless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Why is mindless abbott running this country? Even his side of politics is concerned about his Captains picks. So far which one has been a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchroll Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'm always in awe of laypeople who insist they know better than highly respected professionals like: Professor Stephen Hawking - Physicist, Director of Research at the Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics, Cambridge University. Dr Neil deGrasse Tyson - Astrophysicist, Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Centre for Earth and Space, New York. Dr Lawrence M Krauss - Physicist, Foundation Professor of the School of Earth and Space Exploration, Arizona State University. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherk Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I think Liberals are extinct here. (In this country) Discuss? Nev probably true , under their name they seem not to practice Liberalism . (as a philosophy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'm always in awe of laypeople who insist they know better than highly respected professionals like: Professor Stephen Hawking - Physicist, Director of Research at the Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics, Cambridge University. Dr Neil deGrasse Tyson - Astrophysicist, Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Centre for Earth and Space, New York. Dr Lawrence M Krauss - Physicist, Foundation Professor of the School of Earth and Space Exploration, Arizona State University. Yep, those 3 would be on my "ultimate dinner party" list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Dutch really is a man of faith! But you forgot manbearpig: Might be time to round up the thousands of climate scientists that disagree with the extremist warmies and re-educate them, that's how your type of 'science by majority consensus' works no? Edit the temperature data to show some warming too, hide the decline and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 You are losing more credibility. Do YOU believe your god will look after it or the end of the world is imminent and it doesn't matter? Ronald Raygun believed that. and he would probably know these things, otherwise he wouldn't have been President, right? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yep, those 3 would be on my "ultimate dinner party" list. Send them an invite and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I'm always in awe of laypeople who insist they know better than highly respected professionals like: Professor Stephen Hawking - Physicist, Director of Research at the Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics, Cambridge University. Dr Neil deGrasse Tyson - Astrophysicist, Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Centre for Earth and Space, New York. Dr Lawrence M Krauss - Physicist, Foundation Professor of the School of Earth and Space Exploration, Arizona State University. You forgot Sheldon Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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