Why are theists so poor at making any arguments?

[nomadpete]

I was pointing out that you don't know the depth of the animal's reasoning.

I should have said sonnet instead of poem. Just to get your mind on a higher plane than the doggerel

[Jerry_Atrick]

12 hours ago, Marty_d said:

I like to gross out the kids by telling them that the water they drink has probably passed through a dinosaur's bladder. 

That is essentially how my kids gross me out

[Bruce Tuncks]

Name the worst person you can think of and there will be some of his atoms in you right now.

That's how statistics works.

As far as not paying for the funeral, if you don't buy a prepaid one, the executor will just charge it to the estate. I bet you would get a better deal with a prepaid.

I once reckoned that a sandy-soil paddock at the farm would be fine for funerals, but the red tape is very discouraging. ( My plan was to dispose of the bodies while they held a memorial service elsewhere. I was planning to use an auger to make a vertical hole and charge extra for head first or last)

[Bruce Tuncks]

How about this for an idea....  you plan to disappear your body, and then you provide your ex-spouse with a bunch of post-dated letters so the world thinks you are still alive. then your super or pension payments will continue.

 

[pmccarthy]

1 hour ago, Bruce Tuncks said:

I was planning to use an auger to make a vertical hole and charge extra for head first or last)

So a funeral becomes an inauguration?

[Bruce Tuncks]

Just body disposal, pmc.  I was thinking that the sea would make a good body-disposal  alternative method. Whaddeya reckon?

I'm afraid that the existing cemetery owners have got the game sewn up, only leaving the sea.

[pmccarthy]

I think that was the idea in sending them down the Ganges. Probably a few crocs in there too.

[onetrack]

So ... all this origins pondering, possibly means that corporate arseholes atoms have more than likely been through sharks and crocodiles, and that's why they now behave in their ruthless manner?

[nomadpete]

24 minutes ago, onetrack said:

So ... all this origins pondering, possibly means that corporate arseholes atoms have more than likely been through sharks and crocodiles, and that's why they now behave in their ruthless manner?

There is a theory that we all have fragments of "cellular memory" in us. Maybe from the atoms of past life beings.

Yeah, I once read lots of nutcase conspiracy books. They all failed to make me their kind of nutcase - they just turned me into a terminal cynic.

 

 

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I've got a theory about that, too

[onetrack]

Yes, when you start getting into "water memory", you can really lost in the ookey-spookey, new-age medicine stuff.

[nomadpete]

New age quackery?

 

Standing in the queue at the chemist. The woman in front of me was wanting an 'off the shelf' medication to fix the daughter's affliction. After repeatedly knocking back a couple of products because "No! that stuff's just a Big Pharma con", the woman left empty handed. Mumbling...... "I'll just go back to using dragon's blood."

 

There are a lot of believers out there.

[octave]

20 minutes ago, onetrack said:

Yes, when you start getting into "water memory", you can really lost in the ookey-spookey, new-age medicine stuff.

This is a line from Tim Minchin's poem "Storm"   

 

If you show me that, say, homeopathy works, then I will change my mind
I'll spin on a fucking dime
I'll be embarrassed as hell,
But I will run through the streets yelling
'It's a miracle! Take physics and bin it!
Water has memory!
And while it's memory of a long
Lost drop of onion juice seems Infinite
It somehow forgets all the poo it's had in it!'

 

 

 

 

 

[willedoo]

22 hours ago, Marty_d said:

Many animals play, show complex emotions and have what we consider excellent character traits - maternal love, loyalty, courage,  the ability to live in the moment and completely relax and enjoy it (ever watched a dog finding that perfect bit of sun-drenched carpet to stretch out on?)

Why are they not "spiritual"? 

And they dream as well. Animals are smarter than a lot of us think they are. Take dolphins for example. I know of entire suburbs where the average IQ would be much lower than that of a dolphin. If dolphins had usable arms and legs and could walk out of the water and start doing things on land, we'd realise how dumb a lot of humans really are. As humans we tend to underestimate animals and overrate ourselves.

[facthunter]

Individual Humans and dedicated motivated  groups can achieve marvellous things but collectively we are a foolish selfish  world destroying bunch of  idiots when we allow our minds to be taken over  so easily by insane concepts and destroy much of what we have built and succumb to fear and HATE.  Nev

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[facthunter]

Theists also say whatever "their" bible says is the go and they have many interpretations of it. How do I know? The bible tells me so.   Nev

[Bruce Tuncks]

Alas, the animals are dumb and we are not.

[old man emu]

On 16/08/2023 at 2:14 PM, pmccarthy said:

So a funeral becomes an inauguration?

Either way, you're screwed.

[facthunter]

With some people their funeral would be a cause for Celebration.   Nev