Are we True or simply Cultural believers in God?

[old man emu]

On 07/10/2023 at 2:59 PM, onetrack said:

 I was surprised to find the association between Lesbos and lesbians is a lot more murky than we have been told. As with so much ancient culture, there's a lot lost in the translation and in ensuing individual opinions.

 

https://greekreporter.com/2023/06/09/greek-island-lesbos-word-lesbian/#:~:text=The etymology of “lesbian” and,of Lesbos' most famous inhabitants.

I disagree with the scholarly accuracy of that article.  The continuous use of lesbian and the modern words formed from it are from late 19c. Its meaning "relating to homosexual relations between women, characterized by erotic interest in other women"  has been in continuous use from 1890; the noun lesbianism from this sense is attested from 1870, and the noun, which is first recorded 1925.

 

Before this, the principal figurative use of Lesbian was "lesbian rule" (c. 1600 and especially common in 17c.) a mason's rule of lead, of a type used in ancient times on Lesbos, which could be bent to fit the curves of a molding; hence, figuratively, "pliant morality or judgment."  Lesbian rules were originally constructed of a pliable kind of lead found on the island of Lesbos. Nowadays we call them flexible curves.

[facthunter]

Religion is indoctrinated extensively in most cases. This Monkey on your back takes a lot of time to dislodge. Many lose their faith in times of dire calamity and extreme inhumanity. (as if the god has failed). Atheists never blame god.    Nev

[Marty_d]

Once you come to the realisation that chance and coincidence can happen to anyone, the evil don't always get punished and the good don't always get rewarded, that everything living will die and nothing that's died has ever come back (talking full on brain death here people not resuscitation), and that every physical and natural process in the universe can or will eventually be studied, replicated and explained, then the need for supernatural beings is no longer there.

God is just an optional extra in your brain.  

[facthunter]

IF you need one you make one up.  (Invisible means of support).    Nev

[facthunter]

I should believe, as I've had so many Near Misses it's fairly unbelievable that it would have happened without a purpose.. I trust in the God of checking things and not being surprised when BAD things happen. You won't have 12 seconds to initiate things. Some times it's like when you are on the road.  Nev

[Old Koreelah]

3 hours ago, Marty_d said:

Once you come to the realisation that chance and coincidence can happen to anyone, the evil don't always get punished and the good don't always get rewarded, that everything living will die and nothing that's died has ever come back (talking full on brain death here people not resuscitation), and that every physical and natural process in the universe can or will eventually be studied, replicated and explained, then the need for supernatural beings is no longer there.

God is just an optional extra in your brain.  

Michael Leunig saw human nature like this:

 

[Marty_d]

I don't mind Leunig but he's a bit off with the fairies sometimes.

[facthunter]

Who thinks they know ALLL about Human nature? It's extremely complex.  Nev

[Bruce Tuncks]

I have tried without success to find just why Allah chose to level so many buildings in Afghanistan. Are not the Taliban especially devout?

[facthunter]

Perhaps they've been too easy on "Infidels" and Allah is cranky at them?   The Houses are MUD mainly. Thats why they collapse. A lot of countries get bad earthquakes.. California is due for one. The San Andreaus Fault. NOT Labor's Fault. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Oh, come on, Nev... Murdoch makes sure its always Labor's (or the democrat's) fault!

Edited October 18, 2023 by Jerry_Atrick

[onetrack]

I think Allah has very little to do with earthquakes and houses falling down in Afghanistan. It's called the Forces of Nature. Build a mud-brick house in a known seismic zone, and no matter what God you worship, they won't be able to help you. There's an old saying about people being so heavenly-minded, they're no earthly good.

[spacesailor]

In a seismic area build in. ' Wood '

Just like NZ does.  Then after the " rattle  " just hammer those loose boards back together again.

Imagine,  Old England gets a fair few tremors every year , those ' chimney pots falling down are

Dangerous. 

Have to wear a ' bowler hat '  LoL

spacesailor

[Old Koreelah]

11 hours ago, spacesailor said:

In a seismic area build in. ' Wood '

Just like NZ does.  Then after the " rattle  " just hammer those loose boards back together again...

Not much wood available across the earthquake zone from Italy through Greece, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Thousands of years of cutting down forests and overgrazing by sheep and goats.

 

A recent clever innovation to lay ropes in the mortar helps keep mud brick buildings together, but I bet the stupid Taliban ban that idea, along with any other Western influence.

[Jerry_Atrick]

38 minutes ago, Old Koreelah said:

and overgrazing by sheep and goats.

Can't overgraze them.. Nothing better than a leeg of either roasted on a chilly winter's day.

[old man emu]

3 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Nothing better than a leeg of either roasted on a chilly winter's day.

Hey you blokes! We've lost Jerry.

 

He's succumbed to the Sunday Roast of beef at the Saracen's Head.

[Bruce Tuncks]

OME, I do know of a Saracen's Head pub in Adelaide, Its on  Carrington Street.

But there must be others, which do you mean?

[old man emu]

I didn't mean any pub in particular. I just used that name as a generic, Like the Fox and Hounds, or King's Head. Go to any Australian country town and you'll likely find a Royal, a Telegraph and if on a rail line, The Railway. Generic names.

[Bruce Tuncks]

If you put "saracen's head" into google you will get quite a few, so you are correct OME.

 

[facthunter]

Knowing a LOT about Pubs is a bit like being a good Billiards or snooker player. Signs of a misspent youth.  Nev

[old man emu]

It's worse when you directions to a place by using pubs as landmarks for turns and such.

[nomadpete]

Some navigate by pubs, others by churches.

I don't  know which are better navigators, but I know which ones eat better.

[facthunter]

The wine in churches is not up to scratch. Nev

[Marty_d]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

The wine in churches is not up to scratch. Nev

I don't think you're meant to down a glassful.  Doesn't the priest finish off what's left in the jug later?

[onetrack]

You know the Churches don't even provide a wine list, don't you? That should be a glaring indicator of what you're going to get.