kgwilson Posted September 22, 2024 Posted September 22, 2024 This is just confirmation of what EV and battery manufacturers have been saying and demonstrating with battery warranties. My MG4 came with an unlimited km 7 year warranty on car & battery. That has now been extended to 10 years and in Thailand & China the warranty is extended to a lifetime warranty. I don't know if this is for the original owner or whether it is transferable to second and subsequent owners. It is capped at 20,000 km a year which is fine for most people so won't apply to taxis & hire cars or probably any used commercially I imagine. After 1 year and 16,000 km my car is reporting battery state of health as 100%. 2 1
spacesailor Posted September 23, 2024 Posted September 23, 2024 (edited) The $10,00 MG price drop is wonderful. $ 31,000 . Except it doesn't work If I go & ask ( pensioner ) , I will be told a much higher price . " No business number " . spacesailor Edited September 23, 2024 by spacesailor 1
kgwilson Posted September 24, 2024 Posted September 24, 2024 The price drop is for all purchasers not businesses. My model which was $50,400 on the road is now $39,990 on the road. At the time I got a State incentive of $3,000 so it was $47,400 all up. The price had already dropped to $47,900 on the road now there is a factory bonus of $8,000 to bring the top spec car to under 40k. There is a facelift model due out in early 2025 so the price drop is to try to get rid of current stock before then. Deals like this happen all the time with all manufacturers. Mazda has been offering big discounts on unsold 2022 models. There are also some good prices on demo cars with only a thousand km or so on the clock. 1
onetrack Posted September 24, 2024 Posted September 24, 2024 The Chinese EV industry is in major turmoil and I can't see clearly as to what the end result will be - but one thing I can see, is a major "restructuring" of the Chinese EV production, and a lot of brands will simply disappear. The Chinese car dealers are wrestling with enormous losses. https://www.scmp.com/business/china-evs/article/3279679/chinas-car-dealers-struggle-us20-billion-losses-amid-price-war
nomadpete Posted September 25, 2024 Posted September 25, 2024 A flow on effect of bottomless government subsidisation of an industry. I heard that the Chinese state subsidised the EV manufacturers ti the tune of $350 billion in an attempt to control the world market and squash the competition. They are still learning how capitalism works. And are not very good at it. On the other hand, we see the US situation where uncontrolled capitalism has destroyed their car manufacturing industry. Both sides would do well to closely study themselves and their competitors. Maybe reread The Art of War, and learn some history? 2
Marty_d Posted September 25, 2024 Posted September 25, 2024 The market definitely can't be allowed to run free like the neocons want, but it also can't be too controlled. There's a happy medium in there somewhere but I don't think the US, China or even us have it right. 1 1
spacesailor Posted September 25, 2024 Posted September 25, 2024 subsidies. This government has it's 'solar ' rebate scheme back to front .If they want more power into the grid then those lower consumers, should be getting the largest subsidies. not the the cut off minimum . spacesailor
red750 Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 I know what everyone on this forum thinks of Barnaby Joyce, but he was only echoing what had been said in America about the possible spy gear being nuilt into Chinese vehicles, particularly EV's. There has been talk for some time they are tracking you and monitoring what is said in the cars. This is similar to rumours about Siri and Alexa smart devices, and even stories that your Rumba robotic vacuum cleaner is filming and recording your house. It may sound pie in the sky, but when one sees what Israel did with the pagers and walkie talkies, maybe it's not so far fetched. Big Brother is with us. What I can't get my head around is how the Israeli's got those devices into the hands of all those Hamas operatives. 1
red750 Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 Further to my last post here, there are also stories that your security equipment, such as CCTV and Ring doorbell cameras, which transit images to your smartphone, are being covertly monitored and data sold on the dark web. You are not even safe sitting on the loo. 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 Your computer and phone also track you. Google famously recorded people through their Chrome browser. Apple has admitted tracing through their phones and so on. Not sure what BYD will get from my driving 1
Popular Post Marty_d Posted October 1, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 1, 2024 On 01/10/2024 at 4:41 AM, red750 said: Further to my last post here, there are also stories that your security equipment, such as CCTV and Ring doorbell cameras, which transit images to your smartphone, are being covertly monitored and data sold on the dark web. You are not even safe sitting on the loo. Expand Well, if you're going to go to the loo in front of someone's doorbell camera, serves you right! 5
red750 Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 Here is a link expanding on my last post. Your car is listening. 1 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Any car that gas a SIM has exactly the same issue.. such as my mini 1
red750 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Lucky mine doesn't have one, they'd get a constant steam of expletives. Red lights and drivers who couldn't drive a hot nail into margerine. 2 1 1
old man emu Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 If all the nickel goes into making batteries for EVs, how are we going to power our mobile phones? 1
onetrack Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 There's more than enough nickel to around - but before long, nickel will likely fall out of fashion as a battery ingredient, as newer and "greener" materials are developed. The price of nickel has slumped badly, mostly due to oversupply, and many of the nickel operations in W.A. have been placed on care and maintenance - including the Kalgoorlie Nickel Smelter. China and Indonesia are producing vast amounts of nickel at lower cost than we can produce it, so it'll be a while before we have to worry about a nickel shortage. 3
old man emu Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 On 03/10/2024 at 9:36 AM, onetrack said: There's more than enough nickel to around Expand I was being a smartarse. 1
old man emu Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 On 03/10/2024 at 10:59 AM, nomadpete said: A nickel for your thoughts, OME? Expand There isn't a pennyworth amongst them. 1 1
willedoo Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Imagine what it would be like if the nuclear diamond battery concept was developed at scale. A battery that lasts for thousands of years. 1 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 On 03/10/2024 at 8:51 AM, old man emu said: If all the nickel goes into making batteries for EVs, how are we going to power our mobile phones? Expand Plug it in to your EV 1 1
pmccarthy Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 EVs should have bicycle pedals as a backup. Like cars once had crank handles. 2
Jerry_Atrick Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Maybe they should have crank handles again, generating the electricity to recharge the batteries. 1
facthunter Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 A human is flat out to generate 1/6th of a horsepower. Nev 1 1
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