Electric car thread

[spacesailor]

I do like this .

BMW ix3 12o xdrive sports .

Not just electric .but 4x4 & four wheel steering .

spacesailor

PS  : I can just see the wife & I shopping at Aldi  in this electric commuter .

Edited December 3, 2024 by spacesailor
PS added

[facthunter]

Tata are a Big show. They own lots of things.  Nev

[facthunter]

Might make Parking easier. Honda tried that ages ago. BMW means Bavarian Motor Werken.  An Inspiring name. 

  When FORD  purchased Jaguar, the Company had no forward designs on the books. Nev

[Marty_d]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Might make Parking easier. Honda tried that ages ago. BMW means Bavarian Motor Werken.  An Inspiring name. 

  When FORD  purchased Jaguar, the Company had no forward designs on the books. Nev

Sorry to be pedantic, but I believe it's "Bayerisch Motoren Werken" in the original or Bavarian Motor Works auf englisch.

[facthunter]

I was JUST testing you. Not necessarily YOU. If you build your Plane as scrupulously it will fly well. may you have substantial Tailwinds (Except when Landing).  Nev

[onetrack]

No, no, no - BMW stands for "Bring Many Wrenches!"

[Litespeed]

BMW 

 

Bring My Wallet

[nomadpete]

17 hours ago, onetrack said:

You're going to have to be a transvestite, or transgender, or one of the Alphabet people, to buy a Jaguar in the future.

They don't just come in pink.

It is also available in a dullish pale 'London Blue' for those discerning buyers who need to assert their masculinity.

[onetrack]

The "Godfather" of the EV, one Andy Palmer, who was responsible for the Nissan Leaf EV, is telling anyone who'll listen, that hybrids are a "fools errand", and that the Chinese will undoubtedly end up winning the EV "race", and that Western car manufacturing companies need to get their act into gear on EV's, and make like Chinese car manufacturers, or they won't survive.

 

I believe Andy Palmer is spot on with his assessment that increased tariffs only made the local manufacturers lazy and make them fail to innovate. And so many countries are bringing in tariffs on Chinese EV's, fearful of what is happening to their local car manufacturing. It's like King Canute trying to hold back the tide.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/the-godfather-of-evs-explains-why-china-is-winning-the-race-to-go-electric-and-why-hybrids-are-a-fool-s-errand/ar-AA1wt9nj?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=dee145dfafd24b2c8f309730b002c2e1&ei=27

 

Edited January 3 by onetrack

[facthunter]

Hybrids are  a stop gap for people who don't go far into it and realise the complexity  and cost. Purchase and Maintenance for very little benefit.  Nev

 

[kgwilson]

Hybrids had a boost in popularity that now seems to have waned somewhat. Personally i think they are the worst of both worlds. They are cheaper than full EVs and dealers were making greater profits from their sales. They are though far more complex with both types of propulsion and need oil changes and transmission maintenance and still produce fumes from fossil fuels. The price is reflected in the tiny battery often with only about 50 km of range and they have a very poor fire risk rating with the evidence showing they are more than 100 times more likely to catch fire than an EV and also much worse than a standard petrol or diesel powered vehicle. They appeal to people who have range anxiety.

 

Car importers now have to comply with stricter emissions regulations as from 1/1/25 so if they continue to import vehicles with lower standards they will have to make it up by selling other more efficient vehicles to reduce their overall CO2 emissions. The new standards produce fewer emissions while increasing fuel efficiency. We didn't have any standards till now and were on a par with Russia so we got cars with the dirtiest engines. Our new standards are still way behind the Euro standards though.

 

Imports of European cars though have had to comply with the Euro standards which have been in place since the original Euro 1 standard set in 1992. The current Euro 6D standard was set for all new vehicles produced in the EU since last September.

[pmccarthy]

We have had two hybrids and they were/ are great. They don't run on the batteries, the batteries smooth out the power demand and give good acceleration from a car with a small petrol motor. Get about 4 litres per 100 km. Minimal need for maintenance, which is cheap. Currently have a Corolla Cross, which is all wheel drive.

[facthunter]

ALL the features of a normal ICE motor are still there. How come the Maintenance is minimal and cheap? Ok when in warrantee with fixed price servicing but if the dealer loses on the servicing they will cut corners...  Nev

[pmccarthy]

I believe the duty cycle for the engine is much more stable, so it needs less attention. And the service charges are low, though that could just be a marketing ploy.

[facthunter]

I've heard otherwise about the engine. That it does not get an easy time. It IS unsupercharged though. but dose it rev high? I don't know. I doubt it has a tacho. Most turbocharged car engines don't rev much at all.  Nev

[pmccarthy]

A dark side of the electric vehicle boom. BYD, Tesla, Ford and Volkswagen all buy nickel from Indonesia, where environmental and human rights concerns are growing.

Tesla, BYD and VW purchase huge amounts of Nickel from Indonesia, which currently produces about 50% of world output and is aiming for 75% by 2040. A massive amount of coal is used to power nickel smelting. At three of the biggest nickel industrial parks – Obi Island, Morowali and Weda Bay – the country has planned to double the nickel industry's current power usage. The amount being invested in renewable energy projects to power the nickel industry is just a fraction of the investment in coal.

The fallacy of using coal to power the 'green vehicle' revolution is not lost on Shennum.

"At Weda Bay Industrial Park, once it's fully operational, there will be 12 new captive coal plants that didn't exist five years ago," she says. "That's 3.8 gigawatts of coal capacity, or roughly what is burned in all of Spain every year, just at this one industrial park in Indonesia."

 

https://www.choice.com.au/transport/cars/eco-friendly/articles/a-dark-side-of-the-ev-boom?utm_medium=email&utm_term=N%2FA&utm_source=Dynamics-365-CIJ&utm_content=INSIDER_090125&utm_campaign=INSIDER_090125

[Siso]

Indonesia are advancing with some new type nuclear. Hopefully this helps. https://www.petromindo.com/news/article/thorcon-plans-4-gw-of-nuclear-power-by-2035-in-indonesia Thorcon has been working with there government for quite a few years.

[facthunter]

Justy what the world needs. Its a pile of Islands 280 million people On the Pacific rim of fire active volcanoes , earthquakes and sunami's.  The ideal solution?  A grid. Nev,

[nomadpete]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Justy what the world needs. Its a pile of Islands 280 million people On the Pacific rim of fire active volcanoes , earthquakes and sunami's.  The ideal solution?  A grid. Nev,

Sadly, a grid that connects hundreds of little islands is not very practical.

And I thought you were not much in favor of grid power distribution anyway?

[facthunter]

I'M NOT. It's costly and unreliable but necessary.  Nev

[nomadpete]

The islands of Indonesia would have to be the most logical place in the world for distributed isolated power generation.

Solar plus a small wind turbine and a community battery should be best?

 

Can't see any logic in centralised power except for the biggest of their cities.

[facthunter]

There might be plenty of sea currents also.   Nev