Electric car thread

[old man emu]

VW has been toying with EVs since the 60s. Here's a concept test bed car undergoing terrain testing.

[spacesailor]

I drove an E V in the fifties.

The ' milk truck ' .

spacesailor

[octave]

3 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

I drove an E V in the fifties

There has been a lot of progress in the last 65 years.

[octave]

I don't want to "inflame" this subject again but...... Note these vehicles ARE NOT EVs

 

 

 

 

[old man emu]

3 minutes ago, octave said:

Note these vehicles ARE NOT EVs

It is very clear that the fire in this vehicle is coming from the upper front of the vehicle, and that is a clear indication that these are ICEs. The flames, while coming from a small area, have random motion. Also the smoke is black. When you see pictures of EVs on fire, the flames are usually coming from underneath the vehicle and often look to be in a jet stream. Also the smoke is usually white.

[facthunter]

According to the stats the Hybrids are the worst at catching fire. How about if WE skip the flagrant disinformation stuff.? There's already enough of it out there..    Nev

[Marty_d]

10 hours ago, red750 said:

Been on the RWNJ posts again Peter?

Not in Tas, where our power is hydro.

In fact not wholly in most of Australia where the takeup of rooftop solar has been massive and old coal fired power plants are being shut down.  

Edited January 9 by Marty_d

[spacesailor]

Why can't those Old power stations. 

Be used as " housing estates " , most have a good lake 

that would enhance the area .

Greystanes has a ' brick pit ' that is now a new suburb. 

spacesailor

 

[facthunter]

The closed down one at the south of Lake Macquarie, (Vales Point?) has made eating fish from the Lake NOT recommended.   Nev

[onetrack]

We do have the old coal open pits turned into recreational lakes here.

 

https://exploreparks.dbca.wa.gov.au/park/lake-kepwari

 

https://collierivervalley.com.au/local-listings/stockton-lake/

[facthunter]

Before that it was Sulphide Corp at the northern end ,(Cockle Creek). This is one of the best Lakes I know of in this country. Do we have to stuff up everything?  Nev.

[kgwilson]

15 hours ago, facthunter said:

Before that it was Sulphide Corp at the northern end ,(Cockle Creek). This is one of the best Lakes I know of in this country. Do we have to stuff up everything?  Nev.

No but we are trying hard to.

[red750]

re: Earlier post

 

[facthunter]

And you can't do THAT with Hydrocarbon fuels can you?   Nev

[spacesailor]

If steam trains CAN pick-up water , on the fly , so could vehicles .

spacesailor

[nomadpete]

When did anybody last see a flying steam train?

[facthunter]

Water is not flammable. The STEAM train from Newcastle to Sydney was known as "THE FLYER" and did the trip in 2 hours 20 minutes.  Nev

[nomadpete]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Water is not flammable. The STEAM train from Newcastle to Sydney was known as "THE FLYER" and did the trip in 2 hours 20 minutes.  Nev

But it never flew and it never refuelled by scooping up coal on the run.

So, no. Not a fair comparison at all.

[spacesailor]

Yes,

BUT  ! .

In Australia you have the " bus lane " nearside , then that " Cycle lane " .

Also the there's all parking bays .

Perhaps get rid of that " Black " lane .

spacesailor 

[kgwilson]

What we really need to do is have laws preventing the importation and sale of vehicles with engines spitting out high particulate emissions. We do not have ANY laws relating to this and we encourage manufacturers to sell us their dirtiest vehicles. They are cheap compared to cleaner vehicles but we have the unenviable distinction of being at the bottom of the pile in company with Mexico and Russia.

 

The other thing we should do is completely overhaul the laws regarding fringe benefits tax which is currently one of the reasons Australia is out of step with the rest of the world where the average vehicle size is increasing. Don't get me started on those ridiculous giant American Utes like the RAM and F250 that compensate for the lack of personal self esteem of their owners.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-30/sales-of-suvs-and-utes-on-the-rise-in-australia/103174638

[facthunter]

How many of the RAM size are out there?  There's Mercedes cars that are just as heavy.. How many of todays diesels put out smoke?   They have Particulate filters and Blue add. The worst pollutant is CO2  and some of t he improvements actually reduce the economy.    Nev

[spacesailor]

The Big American ' trucks ' Are the direct result of Australian

' towing ' laws .

Do we buy nice , comfortable " yank tanks " .

OR

a " prime mover " .

Both comply with Australia's " towing " laws .

I don't know which one is heavier. 

But ,

I personally like to drive a car style vehicle, rather than a primemover .

spacesailor

 

 

[Litespeed]

18 hours ago, facthunter said:

How many of the RAM size are out there?  There's Mercedes cars that are just as heavy.. How many of todays diesels put out smoke?   They have Particulate filters and Blue add. The worst pollutant is CO2  and some of t he improvements actually reduce the economy.    Nev

Nev, sorry there are no Mercs that heavy unless you go commercial vehicles.

 

The big ones are selling as fast as they import/ convert them.

 

Over 10,000 of the biggies last year and much more projected.

 

Even a new landcrusher is close to 3 tonnes.

[facthunter]

They don't drive anything like a prime mover. They used them as Pace Cars at Bathurst's Mt Panorama. and they put on an impressive show. 

  That's for space.

 Litespeed I think I got that info from something posted HERE. Don't know if they were Hybrid. Nev

[willedoo]

A lot of people buy vehicles based on their own requirements and what gives them enjoyment rather than worrying about what others think of them. Not everyone uses saving the planet as criteria for vehicle purchases.