Electric car thread

[octave]

15 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

The future of one product,  and no alternative. 

Is always,  pay through the nose .

The thing with electricity is the there are many ways if producing it.  You can produce electricity from coal or gas, solar hydro nuclear.  Even those who who are suspicious of EVs surely must admit that using our own source of fuel has to be better than importing oil.  I know some people do experiment with producing fuel from cooking oil etc but generally refining your own fuel is not possible.  I have done a bit of modelling and I could easily provide enough solar to drive 14000km and that is from a relatively small solar system.

[spacesailor]

But

Those in-need of solar, plus EVs . Are not eligible. 

As most live in the ' suburbia ' & state housing or rental.

The Oldies have long-ago learned to live ( within their pp-pension ) , so do not qualify for subsidised solar .

Who got the first for those big rebates . I suspect the richer part of town , who have surplus money. 

115 klms daily trip , lots of CO2 produced by one car in 10s of thousands . ( Penrith/cbd ).

spacesailor

 

 

 

[Marty_d]

2 hours ago, spacesailor said:

 

Has anyone seen a " cats-eye " road marker  lately. 

spacesailor

Yes, they're all over the place.

[spacesailor]

Not the original.  That had the ' glass ball ball ' in a tube encased by a rubber mound ,

Stray light came in & was reflected back though the eye

Which shone brightly . Like an animals eye .

spacesailor

[Marty_d]

Well, the current ones reflect headlights at night, which serves the purpose.

[old man emu]

Just now, Marty_d said:

Well, the current ones reflect headlights at night, which serves the purpose.

Have they got little batteries in them?

[Marty_d]

No, but they're better than the currant ones, which are a bit fruity.

[kgwilson]

There are few if any subsidies for installing rooftop solar now. The market is very mature with 30% of Australian households with some solar electricity generation. However you do not pay the full price for a solar system as there are RECs (renewable energy certificates) provided by the federal government. For home owners these are called small scale technology certificates or STCs. Usually you provide authority to the supplier/installer and they apply for and receive the STC subsidy and that is deducted from the price you pay.

 

I paid $3,500.00 for a heat pump water heater and got $990.00 from the Clean Energy Council based on the number of STCs generated. These STCs are tradeable and are purchased by industries to offset their emissions. The heat pump produces 4 times the heat energy that it consumes and all of the power comes from my rooftop solar system. When I installed the 6.5 kW solar system in February the installer applied for the STCs & that was deducted from the total cost of the system.

[old man emu]

4 hours ago, kgwilson said:

These STCs are tradeable and are purchased by industries to offset their emissions.

That sounds a lot like what happens with playing the stock market. Shares are traded but the trade does not produce anything that has a use. The person who initially gets the STC hasn't really produced anything. Then that person can sell them to a polluter, who continues to pump out pollutants, but can claim that they are not doing so. At the end of the process, no less pollution has been produced.

 

In other words, it's a flim-flam operation.

[Marty_d]

Labor tried to put a price on carbon.  The big miners spent millions in advertising against it.  Tony Abbott with his "$100 lamb roasts" and "Great big new tax" slogans managed to confirm that a sizable portion of the electorate are f*cking stupid.

 

So yes.  We should have had a proper carbon tax years ago.

[kgwilson]

On 24/04/2024 at 3:05 PM, Marty_d said:

Labor tried to put a price on carbon.  The big miners spent millions in advertising against it.  Tony Abbott with his "$100 lamb roasts" and "Great big new tax" slogans managed to confirm that a sizable portion of the electorate are f*cking stupid.

 

So yes.  We should have had a proper carbon tax years ago.

Just like other sensible countries in the world.

[red750]

[red750]

Two electric vehicle's collide in Canada.  The video shows the
explosive aftermath of such.  Pretty scary... watch it all!  The
awesome energy released as those batteries explode makes gasoline
explosions look tame… no wonder the firefighters will not come near a
lithium battery fire.

 

 

 

[octave]

 Oh dear, it does pay to fact-check.

 

https://factly.in/viral-video-shows-gas-canisters-exploding-after-the-non-electric-truck-carrying-them-crashed/

 

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/explosive-video-gaslights-electric-vehicle-drivers/

 

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.33QG9KY

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Not limited to EVs, but because of the ubiquitous of social media and its propensity to cause harm to society by spreading BS like this, which seems too readily accepted by those who see it, I am thining it is high time that the internet is much more heavily regulated than it is, and when perptrators post this stuff recklessley or with an intention to deceive, then jail time is a calling. Of course, catching them, and spoofing people is an issue.. but it can be done.

[Marty_d]

Maybe not jail time but definitely banned from the platform(s) they posted on.

 

[red750]

Nah, Elon says you can post what you want - child porno, rape, murder - all's well?????

 

I got that video in an email from a mate on my email list. Like me, he forwarded what he received. You know the old go-around. Whoever originated it appears to have posted to every member of parliament The recipiant list was as long as your arm.

 

I replied with the YT link to the longer version in the attachment to Octave's Fact Check email. Haven't had his reply yet.

[octave]

Here is a compilation of various clips of this accident. You can literally see the gas cylinders.  The original post said this took place in Canada however everyone you can hear seems to speak Russian. I realize that you merely passed this on but this is the essence of the fake news problem.  A quick fact-check is always a good idea.

 

 

 

[facthunter]

It becomes a problem when it's reposted. Today the truth is hard to find. It need s a lot of perseverance and will.  Nev

[old man emu]

 

[nomadpete]

4 minutes ago, old man emu said:

 

Proof that most humans are assholes

 

[kgwilson]

1 hour ago, old man emu said:

 

Well no you can't. When the charger is plugged in it is locked so can't be removed until you tell the car to unlock it and charging power is stopped.

[old man emu]

I think I should often include a spoiler alert in some of my posts to the effect of "it's a joke, joyce".

[willedoo]

I read a report that in the San Francisco Bay area thieves are cutting off the charging cables for the copper. It would be a lucrative business as they have a lot of copper in them.

[Jerry_Atrick]

er.. one of the docks in the SF bay area is naval, and in a drunken state a workmate and I laterally scaled a cyclone wire gate to storm the docked ship and were met by military grade copper.. True story.