Albo to the rescue

[old man emu]

9 hours ago, willedoo said:

In his first term he had some relatively sane people around him.

 When it comes to Trump's actual presidential record,  as much as he would have the public believe his administration was the most accomplished, most successful of its kind in American history, the Trump White House was notoriously beset by disfunction and infighting. The result was a tenure akin to a political reality show in which "results" seemed less important than the optics thereof. During his first term, or at least early on in it, there were three factions within the White House administration who were constantly at war with each other to gain control over Trump, who spent most of his time watching the news channels and monitoring his ratings.

 

Sorry to drift away from the original theme of this thread, but someone brought up Mr Tangerine Man.

[red750]

Hey guys, the Albo thread has been hijacked by the Halloween pumpkin. He has his own thread.

[old man emu]

3 hours ago, red750 said:

hijacked by the Halloween pumpkin

Good grief!

[willedoo]

On the back of election results in Queensland and the US my bet is that Albo's government will fall as well next year. In the US, apart from all the sensationalist stuff, the economy and cost of living was a big factor in how a lot of people voted. I'm no fan of Peter Dutton but I can see his point about voters feeling a disconnect from government when they are struggling to pay the bills and feel the government is not up to scratch. My only personal experience with a tier of government speaking with a forked tongue is as an age pensioner hearing our local council bleat about cost of living pressures and then deliver a 30% rate increase this year.

 

I'm fully aware of opinions that governments aren't responsible for all rising costs, a lot of it is out of their control, what's the opposition going to do that's any better, and a myriad of other excuses. The problem is they don't mean a thing if the majority of voters don't hold that opinion. The US election has shown that voters are prepared to sweep a bit of craziness under the carpet if they think it will be better for the economy and themselves financially. Whether that happens or not is irrelevant; it's the perception that determines election results. I think next year will see PM Dutton in based on voter discontent with cost of living pressures combined with an underwhelming term of government from Albo and Co..

 

This is a cut and paste of Dutton's comments on the US election. It's from one of those ever changing news blog sites.

 

[ Opposition Leader Peter Dutton says there’s “an eerie parallel” between Australian and US voter sentiment over the cost of living. Speaking on Nine’s Today, Dutton was asked if Trump’s successful campaign, based on the economy and immigration, gave him confidence in his similar strategy.
 

Dutton suggested that the key similarity was the feeling that the government isn’t listening when people say they are struggling with the cost of living.

“They just felt a real disconnect,” Dutton said. “To be honest, there’s sort of an eerie parallel with what’s happening here in Australia, in that sense”.

Referring to messaging that the peak of inflation is now behind us, Dutton said the government was trying to tell Australians that “you’ve never had it so good”.

“I just don’t think that washes because the lived experience, the reality for lots of families sitting around the kitchen tables at the moment, is that they’re pulling their hair out, and they can’t pay the bills, and people are having to sell their homes because they just can’t afford the mortgage repayments.”

But Dutton concluded that while there were some parallels, there were other parts of the US election that “don’t have an equivalent here in Australia”. ]

[old man emu]

38 minutes ago, willedoo said:

Dutton suggested that the key similarity was the feeling that the government isn’t listening when people say they are struggling with the cost of living.

But the government does not control prices. Whichever side gets elected next May, it will not have the power to control the boardrooms of Wall Street. We all know that it's Big Business which is syphoning the money from our pockets. Added to that, to a degree, is the constant demand that the government supplies so much in the way of health, education, the various parts of the legal system and so on. Increasing demand for those services demand increasing costs of services and new taxes. 

 

Sure, we can vote out Albo and vote in Dutton, but we can't vote out Big Business.

[red750]

The problem is, too many people spend money on stuff they don't need. They see it on the TV, or a 'must have' on the internet, and buy it whether they need it or not. I'm saving a lot of money (in my bank account) by saying NO. I see things and think, Ooh, that looks nice, but stop myself buying it. Whether it's some fancy doodad from Global Shop Direct, or a nice cream donut at the mall, I walk away with my money in my pocket. I'm trying something else tonight. We normally have pizza every second Friday night. We've been using the one pizza shop for about 25 years. But the price of a pizza has gone up to $18. Tonight we are trying a frozen pizza from Aldi, costing $4.99. Yes, we have to cook it, but that won't cost $13.00.

[Marty_d]

Just because the USA elects a right-wing crazy doesn't mean we have to.

Those words "PM Dutton" chill me to the bone.

[old man emu]

12 minutes ago, red750 said:

Tonight we are trying a frozen pizza from Aldi, costing $4.99.

Friday night is pizza night for me. From Aldi I buy a box of three cheese pizzas and add my own extras. Last Friday it was Hawaiian with bacon pieces and pineapple pieces with extra pizza cheese. Tonight it's going to be barbeque chicken pieces with olives and extra cheese. 15 minutes in the oven at 200 and it's a cheap meal. I think that it costs about two or three dollars per pizza.

[willedoo]

1 hour ago, old man emu said:

From Aldi I buy a box of three cheese pizzas and add my own extras

That's a good way to do it. Buy a basic cheap pizza and add your own mods.

[willedoo]

What is it about pizzas and Friday. That's my pizza night as well. I would guess it's related to the end of the working week for a lot of people.

[red750]

9 minutes ago, willedoo said:

What is it about pizzas and Friday.

I alternate pizza and fish and chips on Fridays.

[willedoo]

2 minutes ago, red750 said:

I alternate pizza and fish and chips on Fridays.

Both good indulgence foods. My regular diet is embarrassingly healthy so I have a great reverence for pizza and fish and chips.

[facthunter]

Dutton will adopt Trumps style. Minchen and Bernardi copied the TEA Party methods and THAT was a big FLOP. Australia IS NOT AMERICA and may it stay that way. Dutton is a NO man,.  a Stirrer, Puller of Stunts and  a Pretend Tough Image Guy. The Party HE belongs to ONLY exists in Queensland.  His Deputy (SUSSan LEY) is only in the Parliament because HE over ruled her Electorate  which wanted someone else.. What level of control does that give Him over Her. She's regularly banned from question time in Parliament for unruly behaviour. She'll NEVER be the deputy PM either . That is allocated to the Nationals under an agreement that no one is allowed to know the details of.  Nev

[nomadpete]

5 hours ago, old man emu said:

But the government does not control prices. Whichever side gets elected next May, it will not have the power to control the boardrooms of Wall Street

Back to topic now that we have all finished our Friday treats.

 

Elections are not now won by facts and firm policies. The government will get blamed by the opposition for the 'cost of living'. The cost is actually the result of a combination of profit mongering by multinational businesses, combined with undisciplined spendind by the voters.

 

And the punters will blindly follow the propaganda and all too soon forget that the new faces in government  didn't make their life any easier.

[Marty_d]

Facts aren't even facts any more, thanks to Trump (and social media).

Everything is just opinion and experts don't exist.

This says to me that we MUST invest in universal early childhood learning and critical thinking ability in primary and high school.  I'm not too concerned about Uni because if you haven't got a clue by year 12 you're not going to suddenly get one in uni.

 

[nomadpete]

When I was a boy, the world was a simple place.

What was so, was so.

And what was not, was not.

Now the world's a different place.

Some things neearly so.

Some things neearly not.

[old man emu]

1 hour ago, nomadpete said:

When I was a boy, the world was a simple place.

What was so, was so.

And what was not, was not.

Now the world's a different place.

Some things nearly so.

Some things nearly not.

Yul never said a truer word.

[pmccarthy]

Boys were boys and girls were girls. But sooks and cry babys were girls too, and no-one wanted to be a girl.

[facthunter]

There would be many girls THAT would not go down well with..Nev.

[nomadpete]

3 hours ago, old man emu said:

Yul never said a truer word.

Darn! The spelling police edited my misquote .

 

Tis a puzzlement.....

 

 

 

Edited November 9 by nomadpete

[facthunter]

Yul said "DON'T SMOKE".  Nev

[old man emu]

1 hour ago, nomadpete said:

Darn! The spelling police edited my misquote .Tis a puzzlement.....

Not an edit - I was just letting you know that I recognised the source.

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Albo is rescuing kids from social media.. here is another take 

 

[willedoo]

Albo's toast. He's spent his whole term wandering around in the dark bumping into things.

[willedoo]

The federal election is not far away now and Albo is at risk of leading a one term government. If Dutton can keep himself a small target and try not to scare too many people, the election will be all Albo's to lose. I think the government blew too much political energy on the Voice referendum and haven't been able to get any fresh air since. I think they went too soon, too quick with that from a political point of view, and they lost a lot of skin there.

 

It looks fairly obvious Dutton will adopt the cost of living issue and he's trying to sway people that the government hasn't improved people's financial situation in the term of government, ie: if you are no better off what makes you think you will be if you give them another term. It's the old line of they haven't performed so what have you got to lose by trying the alternative. It worked in Queensland recently.

 

The government is going to run on a lot of promises of what they will do if returned. That one is wearing a bit thin and they are more likely to be judged on their performance over the last three years and not on future promises that they've already had three years to implement if they were serious. The election will come down to how many people are scared of Dutton and choose to stick with an underwhelming, lacklustre government. I really think given the short time to the election that Albo is getting wedged. A small target might not work in that time frame, especially when he keeps painting fresh ones.