Albo to the rescue

[Jerry_Atrick]

Albo to theh rescue? Albo to the rescue of entrenching a two-party system:

 

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

 

 

40 minutes ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Albo to the rescue of entrenching a two-party system

The desperation from the ALP and the Coalition is climbing to greater heights. 

 

Not long ago they ruled that the minimum number of members in minor parties be increased to 1,500 from 500.

 

What will they come up with next, ban minor parties altogether? ... in Australia's best interest?

 

 

[nomadpete]

9 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

What will they come up with next, ban minor parties altogether? ..

That appears to be their goal.

 

I'd rather see all political parties banned.

 

Then decisions could be made democratically .

[facthunter]

The "Independents' are NOT a PARTY. They are funded by Climate 200 run by Holmes A Court, Nev

[Marty_d]

Even with compulsory voting it's hard enough to get people to vote properly (ie not make a donkey vote either deliberately or accidentally).

Without political parties and people not spending the time to understand the candidates, how the hell are they going to make their vote go even vaguely in the direction they want?

At the risk of opening a huge can of worms, maybe we need a better way of voting. 

Candidates clearly mark where they stand on a range of current and likely future issues (and are held publicly to account if they then vote differently without sufficient reason).

The vote is also simply a questionnaire about where the voter stands on the same range of issues.

Then your vote is assigned to the candidate whose profile most accurately reflects your choices.

[facthunter]

They'd whinge like all get out if they weren't allowed to vote. The majority of Australian Politicians are decent people. There's a few in it for the "spoils" of office. THEY give the rest a BAD name.  Parties develop Policies from the input of their rank and file (Ideally).   Some represent Coal mines and Big money. Nev

[nomadpete]

2 hours ago, Marty_d said:

a better way of voting. 

Don't worry. It's on It's way now.

 

A.I. can scan the sentiment of the public, filter out the radicals, and tell us who we really need.

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Parties develop Policies from the input of their rank and file (Ideally)

That's been the major problem all along. A party has it's own policies, that differ from other parties, giving rise to fighting over control of the Treasury. The electorate needs to have the power to block the money supply (it's our money), until consensus is reached in Parliament on the best way to go forward with policy selection and implementation, with all players having an equal say and equal participation.

[Marty_d]

The problem is that the people have even less idea of what the money is needed for than the parliament.

So if you give the population at large the ability to block spending you'll get the same awful outcomes currently happening in the US where idiots without a clue are mindlessly breaking stuff in the mantra of "save money".  (For who?  Billionaires)

[facthunter]

 GON, After the Frazer-Whitlam supply blocking, Most sensible people won't ever go down that track again HERE by general agreement . Look at the utter CHAOS in the USA by contrast. Unintended consequences your HERO wouldn't THINK of. He's a bit LIGHT in the Thinking and Knowing department.  He's a Real Estate Wheeler and Dealer. Nev

Edited February 17 by facthunter
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[old man emu]

4 hours ago, facthunter said:

He's a Real Estate Wheeler and Dealer.

That's where he got his on International Relations policy from. If you look at what he wants to do in various places, it reflects the mentality of a real estate wheeler dealer.

[pmccarthy]

I suggest reading “The moon is a harsh mistress “ by Heinlein in about 1960 on AI taking over politically. It could also do animated simulation of its persona on TV.

[Jerry_Atrick]

There certainly is a lot of AI in politics these days.

[old man emu]

6 minutes ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

There certainly is a lot of AI in politics these days.

AI and BS, not to mention also, smoke and mirrors.

[facthunter]

That's the advertising Industry. Hansard records ALL that is said in real time.  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Maybe we need a Dutton's Dailies...

 

 

[facthunter]

WHO actually DID ATTEND a Fundraiser when Albo was shuffling sandbags with the Qld  LNP Premier in the WET?   Wrong Button Dutton.  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

That was the point of the vid...

 

Funny how most people don't look beyond a headline, and in a time with MSM as echo chambered as social meeja, and with the ability to find the trueth with a few more clicks, but they don't.. well.. they get what they deserve..

 

Sadly they take us with them.

[nomadpete]

1 hour ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Sadly they take us with them.

Sadly we collectively follow without proper thought or debate.

 

Unfortunately the modern voter prefers a noisy hollow candidate, to a quiet, more effective candidate.

 

Not that the incumbent is dogs gift to the country. But he hasn't made any noisy grandiose blunders either.

[spacesailor]

" Blunders ". 

Like trying to split Australia into a dual ' citizen ' country .

that cost my vote .

I certainly don't want a country like Ireland.. Maybe good to live there , if you don't upset the opposition. 

spacesailor

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

You either misread what the voice was about or was duped.. but nothing anyone can say will change your mind.,, so it may well be prejudice..

 

But go ahead and vote against your own interest based on a hollow culture war

[facthunter]

The Media Here is the Main thing WRONG with Australia, IF it did it's job properly, the rest would fall into place.  Nev

[spacesailor]

The " voice ''. " native committees " telling the " elected " government how the country will  be run ( in their way  ) .

Sound about right .Similar to NZ two court system. 

spacesailor

[facthunter]

Stop reading Murdoch . It will DO your Brain in. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

5 hours ago, spacesailor said:

The " voice ''. " native committees " telling the " elected " government how the country will  be run ( in their way  ) .

Sound about right .Similar to NZ two court system. 

spacesailor

You just proved my point.. no idea what you're talking about. But use your ignorance to vote against your own interests.. but don't complain when you get what you voted for

Edited Sunday at 05:50 AM by Jerry_Atrick